Why on earth are most of Killdozer's cd's now out of print???

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I wqas going to post some Killdozer lyrics here, got as far as typing them out (from memory), read them back and thought...nah.

Anyway, Little Baby Buntin' - classic!
For Ladies Only - classic!
God Hears Pleas Of The Innocent - a bit pointless by that time, apart from "The Nobbies" and "Paul Doesn't Understand Jazz".

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

......a feebly joking idiot, anyone could tell. right? right?..........forget it.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

grrr

elgin again (golf and games), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link

But I was also unaware that "bling bling" was such an important issue. Okay! So sue me!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

LUPUS TOOK THE LIFE OF FLANNERY O'CONNOR!!!!
SHE WROTE MANY BOOKS BEFORE DEATH CAME UPON 'ER!!!!!

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link

you don't say.........

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Who catches Lupus nowadays? I'm not really joking, that word "Lupus", always sounded weird to me......

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, fell into the stupid trap that has shit to do with Killdozer!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic in small doses. Best song - 'King of Sex'. Best cover - 'Nasty'.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a friend who was (and still is) a photographer. He liked taking pictures of bands but not really listening to them. This meant that he was often painfully ignorant of the bands he was shooting.

This wasn't really a job handicap because most bands had zero desire to do anything when having their pictures taken other than stopping having their pictures taken. This meant that small talk was limited. However, photographers are often paired with writers and you know how we love to talk shop.

He would often find himself in conversations about bands that he had zero idea about. None whatsoever. So he devised two pat answers that he said were useful in nearly all of the discussions he wound up in:

"I like their earlier stuff better."

and

"They remind me of Killdozer."

This thread reminded me of this and it made me smile, so thanks.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe I'll gladly accept that thank you, to make up for looking like an idiot for not knowing about that Butthole Surfers thing.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Best cover - "Unbelievable"

Best song is impossible to pick. That's like asking me to pick one Happy Flowers song.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if I've ever laughed quite as hard as the first time I heard "Lupus" - I'd been really, really into Little Baby Buntin' & was super-psyched to hear the new one, and then BANG, this song that just acclerates everything - by the end it's not even "many good books," it's just "she WROOOOTE some BOOOOOKS/and then DEATH was upon her!"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Man Vs. Nature
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30XFG6GT8IIE808FR029MNGX8

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

more ysis please. i don't have any of this shit anymore.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Hamburger Martyr
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RE49EBK3CUD23KM473H16B3QQ

Richard
"Let me tell you - that sort of thing really PISSES ME OFF!!"
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JQZLRIZOOXEM3JEVWA6ULP4JL

SLSK is ocasionally useful for Killdozer stuff (though prob not as good as you'd expect)

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I used Killdozer as an excuse to get a friend to drive me from Ann Arbor to Chicago, because I had gotten free tickets to a Babes in Toyland show there and Killdozer was opening.
Neither of us had any idea who they were, but were desperately trying to out-cool each other by pretending.

js (honestengine), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the ysi's!!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, I do have one YSI request -- never have heard the cover of "Unbelievable," so might someone have it? Any other B-sides or things that never ended up on the CDs could be fun too!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

in madison the question is 'killdozer or pachinko'
the answer is 'both, motherfucker'

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank ya Mike!

I see this page is of interest:

http://www.geocities.com/renaldo_larue/killdozer/

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of those covers I hadn't heard of must surely be perfect. "Conquistador!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The Procol Harum song?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The very same.

Order page for the reissue of The Last Waltz album (on CD, at least -- separate page has the vinyl run)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Conquistador!
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FXSR03S138AY3R79NYF7YJNLF

I haven't heard the AC/DC cover (or the original, I don't think) or "Disco Inferno", but I'd like to find those.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's like Christmas! :-) Hmm, do you have the Hair medley around?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot how hilarious the liner notes were for Uncompromising...

---

"Final Market"

This song tells the inspiring story of a youth, exploited by his employer (1), a ruthless newspaper distributor. Finally, the Peoples' Revolution arrives (2), and the lad justifiably kills his boss.

(1) Weil, Simone. Oppression and Liberty. Amherst: University of Massachusetts, 1973.

(2) Lunn, Arnold Henry Moore. The Science of World Revolution. London: Sheed and Ward, 1938.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

So is the Touch & Go stuff really out of print or not? I should get more Killdozer, I only have Snakeboy/Intellectuals are the Shoeshine Boys..

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Looks like they are indeed out of print. Touch and Go's page on them is pretty basic while Amazon shows most of them being 'unavailable' or ridiculously priced.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

......which is basically in a nutshell, what I've mentioned from the start.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Saw them in Philly at Abe's Steaks after their first album. "Man O' Meat" was the high water mark. Good pig call: "Ah-huh-huh-hah-huh-haw" which did ZZ Top proud. The other points which made impressions, Gerald's sober but striking stage presence and a continuous endorsement of "Wis-kon-sin's" Huber Beer. Much better live band than the Philly fillers which shared the bill with them.

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I had the great priviledge of booking Killdozer in 1994 and playing washboard with them on a Black Oak Arkansas' HOT N Nasty.

I was at their last chicago gig in 1996(97?) at the empty bottle. Mike told me "Everyone comes up to us on this tour and asks why we're quitting. and we tell them if all the shows were like this, we would keep playing. But the only way to do that is to tell them it's our last show!"

At last report, he's lawyering in NYC. I would pay to see him before a jury.
"Your honor, my asshole could make a better case than the Prosecution!"

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn, that's amazing. I'll keep that mind should the need arise. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

This from 2003:
I'm a tax lawyer in Los Angeles, and yes it is very fulfilling and rewarding. Knowing that, you can't possibly really want to hear my stories. I can tell you that my three-page personal essay about my fulfilling and rewarding career in Killdozer got me into NYU Law School, that and a nice letter of recommendation from Big Black's rocker turned lawyer Santiago Durango! Now about living in Jersey City and NYC I could tell you some stories, but you didn't ask.

Oh, here we go...

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it.

http://www.sheppardmullin.com/images/biopics/biopic781.jpg

Publications

Co-Author, The Tax Issues (and Substantiation Nightmare) Created by Providing Employees Cellular Telephones, The NAPPA Report, Vol. 16, No. 3 (August 2002).

Administrators Face Yet Another EDI Challenge: Use of Social Security Numbers by Health Care Plans Under Fire, The Self Insurer (November 2000).

Thing is, I can hear him growling these out as songtitles.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

...the plaintiff was then poked in the eye by the defendant. And I said to myself, "Holy Fuck! That's gotta huuuuurt."

Dave will do (dave225.3), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, btw - the CD that combines "12 Point Buck" and "Little Baby Bunting" is essential.

Oh yeah, and I don't trust anyone who thinks otherwise.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

!!!!

The most amazing sort of critic was one who praised us adoringly early on, but when Touch & Go left Detroit, where this critic lived, we became his fave example of shit music. I think we took the brunt of his anger over what he perceived as betrayal by T&G for pulling out of Wheel City. He's a music scribe for the Village Voice now, but that's not to say he grew up.

Three guesses, guys.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Guffaw this arc:

"I was a food-service employee at the University of Wisconsin, but all I ever had to do was encourage people to wash dishes. And then I'd to watch TV in my boss's office. I became a big fan of 21 Jump Street. I felt that there was no reason all my co-workers couldn't keep their houses filled with coffee and ice cream from the stockroom. Dan got fired from a job like that for eating bacon."

http://www.geocities.com/renaldo_larue/killdozer/interviews/warp1994.htm

"His experience includes helping design, establish, and administer executive compensation arrangements, equity-based incentive plans, incentive bonus plans, and deferred compensation plans, as well as individual employment and severance agreements."

http://www.smrh.com/attorneys/bios/bio.cfm?attorneyid=781

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i wonder what happened to the two brothers.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.tgrec.com/images/bands/full/50-1.jpg

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks to this thread, I have reconnected with Mike Gerald. He has instructed me to relate the following information regarding the brothers Hobson and the rest of the Killdozer family tree:

Dan Hobson continues to live in Madison, WI, where he is a nurse, happily married, and raising two (at last count) beautiful children.
Bill Hobson lives in rural Southern California where he is happily married and raising an untold number of beautiful children. He works in the movie biz as a grip.

As a bonus:
Paul Zagoras lives on a farm outside of Madison, WI, with his beautiful wife that he imported from Japan. Nobody knows what Paul does for a living.

Erik Tunison lives in Amsterdam with a lady (the last I heard), where he manages a hipster night club and gets high all the time.

Jeff Ditzenburger lives in Milwaukee with his wife. What more needs to be said? Children may or may not be involved.

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

ah, that's right, i forgot the one was a nurse.

awesome.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, that's pure entertainment.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting. So then this may or may not be "our" Bill Hobson's IMDB entry.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

The UK HMV site above definitely does have Killdozer in stock - I've just checked.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sheppardmullin.com/images/biopics/biopic781.jpg

I can't believe this is the guy I last saw when standing next to him in the urinals of Leicester Princess Charlotte, dressed in rhinestone-studded faux-cowboy get-up. (That's Gerald not me, btw).

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my God!!! That voice once actually came from HIM!??!? I wonder how Santiago Durango looks now!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you very much Mike! You are a wonderful........er, dude.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

(I also don't think they were ever my "fave example of shit music," and I never much cared where Touch & Go was located -- hell, I moved away from Detroit not long after!) Any way, Killdozer fans should REALLY check out this Lansing band Red Swan. I'm not kidding.) xp

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There was also a pretty-good New York band called Killdozer who changed their name to Sharkey's Machine after finding out about the Madison band.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

17 tracks from various singles
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SL7K7CS9AWGB3LXSRZR1RLSWC

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 3 February 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

re: Killdozer (France)

They must have played with Bad Brains a lot:

http://www.divinerites.com/b_houll.htm

bendy (bendy), Friday, 3 February 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Learn to read, fucktard.

I'm hearing this phrase in michael gerald's gruff, coarse voice, just before some steamroller sludge-rock riff in some insanely tricky time signature kicks in.

Killdozer were the best, and I feel privileged to have seen them. The twofer CD w/"12 point buck" and "Little baby bunting" is the best, though I'm a big big phan of "uncompromising war on art under the dictatorship of the proletariat", coz they play it so damn str8-faced.

ENTER THE 49 GATES OF UNCLEANLINESS.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 3 February 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I can't find the thread now, but previously someone w3as looking for a Killdozer t-shirt. *plug* I'm selling one on ebay now here

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i got "12 point buckk" yesterday. found it at mercer st. books, of all unlikely places.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 9 June 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Hobson-Gerald-Hobson reunion!

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
Back in print!
(but stay away from Amazon)

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 24 September 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

if you need an attorney...

http://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/michael-gerald.html

nostormo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

"...in this case, clearly, the pig was not cool."

The Jacket Bastard (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 17 March 2013 05:46 (eleven years ago) link


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