Elon Musk

lots of companies do well out of govt contracts/programs, i'd imagine.

so hyperloop huh

people on twitter so mad. trying to understand why. i guess it boils down to:

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

still, i mean, it's pretty cool, right?

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.

people on twitter so mad.

who do you follow?

i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

cool monorail bro

lol

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

even i can afford that

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

I meant 94% sorry.

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

LOL "elon musk"

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

do tell

curious to read a critique that amounts to more than 'hyperlol'

I think it's dumb that he's throwing around numbers when he doesn't even have a working prototype. It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project. I also think the "open source" thing is pretty silly since it's not like code where an individual can make some kind of improvement and test it out to see if it works. I guess an open source design is an interesting idea after the fact if he actually gets it working and other people want to build his design, but it still seems basically irrelevant.

Didn't he make his fortune with Peter thiel?
I don't know if that is "guilt by association" or "looking better by comparison"

It just seems like he's hoping to derail the other project

^^^

A key part of his criticism of the other rail plan is that it's "more expensive to operate (if unsubsidized)." I'd like to see some more detailed numbers on that though. Why would we count the cost of unsubsidized rail against air travel which is heavily subsidized? All that really matters is cost to the traveller, and unlike airlines, I'm assuming the high speed rail system is not going to be run as a for-profit business. He also makes no comparison of the environmental costs of air flight vs. the planned high speed rail system.

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm generally contemptuous of futurists, primarily because they seem to think energy and climate change problems will just sort themselves out, but a mass transit system that relies on solar power and transports people across one of the busiest stretches of highway in America is a good thing. I looked at the first two feeds you suggested and they seemed to just be saying this is just a toy for rich people, which is afaict completely unsupported by his proposal. He's not suggesting a magic carpet for billionaires; it's mass transit that uses solar power. This is a good thing! Maybe it's completely impossible hogwash, but I'd like to see actual engineering criticism of it instead of casual dismissals based on suspicion of ideas from rich people.

the main challenges are not engineering-related, their political

anybody who is over the age of 25, has lived in a city for any length of time, and paid a modicum of attention to the world around them knows that these kinds of massive public works projects tend to be underbid by shady contractors and then they go wildly over the original schedule and budget. so the fact that he's coming in saying he can do it so much cheaper with a totally new and untested technology is a huge red flag. to me it immediately suggests that the whole thing is not serious.

if he honestly thinks this is a feasible plan he should raise some funding and build a private line from LA to Vegas.

It's transparently unserious in that he doesn't want to do it himself and "regrets even mentioning it"

right, that aspect has been p funny

haha, I missed that part

we shuold see if we can sell ilx to elon for $44b

more like $44burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb

$77B

Is Tesla inflating odometer to show more range, ding lessors with over miles and duck repairs under warranty? As I return my leased Model Y I noticed the odometer is off by 20% vs my Lexus RZ. Turns out other Tesla owners have a similar concern. Is Musk gaming the Tesla odometer? https://t.co/jM8Pmf6U1D pic.twitter.com/h4BB0iiar6

— Facts Chaser 🌎 🤦🏻‍♂️ (@Factschaser) April 22, 2024

thats really messed up

if true at those inflation rates that’s funny for simply being so obviously catchable. i mean car nerds can be pretty merciless with their personal data capture imo. in fact one reason i def doubt these q’s is that it woulda been caught long ago?

could be new

the stupidest possible explanation is that its tracking kilometers and calling them miles

hmm. that wld be dumb. remember that mars probe that crashed because its measures calcs had inconsistent imperial/metrics standards? the possibility of a km/mi problem at tesla is somehow proof that elmo should def keep his sights aiming for his personal mars mission or whatever.

tesla earnings call today; excited for new lies

elo "x" musg currently having a public spat with the Australian Government re defending Twitter's right to circulate video of a stabbing in a church

there will be no winners here, the govt will accuse him of being a lousy corporate citizen, he will get a little elon hard-on about it and cry 'censorship' & 'freedom' - perhaps statistically insignificant number of bozos might decide they want him to be next President of the USA

but the main effect will be to render the Tesla brand even more fucking toxic

oh lol I just saw that tweet about Australian sales figures quoted above, maybe he was just looking to act out and this gave him an opportunity

One of the EV YouTube channels I follow posted their "we lost Cronkite" video on their dismal cybertruck experience. Yeah, sure, a software update will suddenly give your CT locking differentials.

One of the EV YouTube channels I follow posted their "we lost Cronkite" video on their dismal cybertruck experience. Yeah, sure, a software update will suddenly give your CT locking differentials.

maybe teslas are measuring every bump in the road
like the freshmen physics troll of measuring the land-sea boundary

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-23/tesla-stock-in-no-man-s-land-after-43-rout-ahead-of-earnings:

"The company’s shares are weathering the longest rout since late 2022, tumbling nearly 19% over the past seven days"
(posted a couple of hours before the stock market opens; sub needed for further gems)

here you go https://archive.ph/V1Kcc

👍🏽😇

meanwhile enjoy it while it's pure

https://i.imgur.com/QxQlnAC.png

she got all made up for this, sad

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreier4eicstowsic7mv2rjndsoo2mkosv2klwuwpybnhiuyqeq5gquy@jpeg

I'm going to guess Taylor's people didn't return his call

I checked and she's still with ornaldo bloomps and probably not having surrogate children with Elon but who can tell

Great car

https://i.ibb.co/9hYGqzc/FB-IMG-1713970236034.jpg

"the car is now in Fred Flintstone mode"

tbf you could buy a much more expensive metal brick

why did the stock go up when their numbers are bad?

mustve been not quite as bad as expected, also its just gone down a lot recently

maybe this too lol

e.w. niedermeyer @niedermeyer.io
Big takeaway from the Tesla earnings call is that Elon doesn't want to do anything to shore up sales, because he'd rather try to use the idle GPUs in parked Teslas as a distributed AI supercomputer... which doesn't make sense, but even if it did, it would still be stealing from your customers.

https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.io/post/3kqtjuvuggc2q

hes still got it baby

juicing the stock 10% with an extremely vague "announcement" re: an affordable car shipping in a few months. got to hand it to him,

he is honestly amazing at this stuff tesla would absolutely be out of business now were it not for his grifting

why did the stock go up when their numbers are bad?

― frogbs, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:49 AM (sixteen minutes ago)

part of the decline pre-earnings was due to rumors that tesla was trashing its low-cast EV project, but then elon reversed course during the actual announcement

i also think some of the gain is probably due to short-covering (which creates buying pressure)

does this short-covering mean that those traders lost out -- because they were gambling on the price falling further than it did -- or that they've made the profit they wanted so they don't care

or does it all depend?

fun fact they probably juiced yesterdays results with some accounting tricks related to one off FSD income. that will become clear tomorrow when they file a 10-Q. expect a drop tomorrow imo.

Mr guess Musk saw that episode of Silicon Valley where they used the cpus in the refrigerators and just figured he could do that with his cars.

does this short-covering mean that those traders lost out -- because they were gambling on the price falling further than it did -- or that they've made the profit they wanted so they don't care

or does it all depend?

― mark s, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:23 PM (one hour ago)

based on what the stock price has done in the past couple of months i think it's a decent chance the short sellers made some money

is tsla a meme stock yet

has been all along

Tesla has benefited enormously from Chinese EV subsidies. Its numbers will be a lot worse if those go away.