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tbh it always takes me 45 minutes to find the discs, and then they're outdated anyway, and downloading vmware seriously took me five minutes

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

All I'm getting from this is DJP is more organized than me, has a slow internet connection, and likes old software

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

It is a more efficient use of network bandwidth and usually faster to install locally from a disk and then contact a server for incremental updates, which often will have a smaller footprint than the original install package; plus, you have no guarantee that the installer you're downloading is actually up to date. The VMWare situation was the first time I'd run into a situation where a brand new out-of-the-box application wouldn't even install on my brand new computer, but I can tell you as a developer who deals a lot with Microsoft technologies that the idea that their downloaded installers are "up to date" is totally laughable; same with the Blizzard games I've downloaded onto my iMac which still required 90 minutes of downloading after the initial install to get up to the most recent patch level.

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

DOWNLOAD THE INSTALLER I SAY

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

*Sandy arrives, power goes out for both of you, winner is person who has hard copy instruction manuals to read about installation even though there's no way to do so*

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

kind of think vmware lives in a different realm and doesn't give a fuck, true

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

i have to burn DVDs for festival entries etc & other professional reasons, plus i still DJ off CD-Rs, so opty for me!

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

FTR I'm on a decent high-speed cable broadband connection and 90 minutes is an exaggeration for VMWare but not for WoW

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

I confess that I have a $30 external DVD drive for ripping DVDs I borrow from my library

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

but the App Store kind of guarantees you'll always get the 'latest' installer doesn' it?

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

I have just enough need for DVD burning (work backups) and DVD watching (entertainment) that I'll have to get an optical drive with the new iMac next month.

Hans von Jerkoffsky (WilliamC), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

If I didn't have the iMac, I couldn't have ripped the tour de force performance of jjj's high school band at our senior year talent show and shared it with ILX.

xp: the only things I have purchased from the App Store are OS- or iLife-related

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

I have a blu-ray drive in a mac pro for ripping blu-ray films

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

surely VMware is on the App Store

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh I guess not

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh, I doubt it

pretty sure vmware fusion is their most atypical product and most of their customers are enterprise businesses who have negotiated contracts and spend most of their time downloading software and fiddling with license management on the website

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol that is exactly my day job experience with them so I should have known better, really

their products do work really well tho

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

true, that

/restarts a couple virtual machines

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

but anyway, buying wholesale into the Apple Store philosophy is buying wholesale into a capricious monopoly that will fuck you over as long as it thinks it can extract money from you, in a myriad of obnoxious and counter-intuitive ways

that type of one-stop consolidation may be okay on a platform like your phone, where most of the information is either ephemeral or backed up elsewhere, but it's a horrible idea for your computer unless you are super paranoid about security, otherwise you run the risk of this:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/

aside from suspicion of the algorithms, this is why I don't do iCloud and I don't do iTunes Match and I don't use Find My Phone/Find My Computer, and if I did I'd definitely not use the same Apple ID to connect all of these things together

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

I've already bought wholesale into the capricious monopoly btw

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

find my iphone is pretty key, I use it about twice a week to make my phone beep a lot in my house

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

wish that Apple did two-factor auth, although it'd probably be hilariously implemented with an iPhone app

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

in 15 years of owning a cell phone, I've had my phone stolen once and actually lost a phone once; every other time I've misplaced it, I've called it and discovered it buzzing underneath a piece of paper next to our land line

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

I've had a cell phone about the same amount of time, never lost or had one stolen, but misplace the fucker all the time. Best part of the Find my iPhone thing: makes noise much longer than calling it would, as it never goes to voicemail. Also, no land line, and calling the fucker via google voice is irritating

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I've actively used a land line in my residence regularly since college when pizza delivery places wouldn't accept orders via cell phone (oh man, try explaining that one to kids). Haven't actually had a land line at all since 2003.

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

all of our utilities are tied to our land line (including, ironically, the cable company that keeps offering us phone service) and have been since we moved in together in '99, so getting rid of it would be a massive PITA

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

sure

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

I have used find my phone on a handful of occasions that would've been dire otherwise (misplacing the thing ~somewhere~ in the hospital)

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

(not in ppl btw)

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

aw

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

srsly tho

when i was on my internal med rotation, it came out that all of the male students had, at one point, lost (and subsequently retrieved) their phones in the same place: the one decent bathroom for pooping on the floor. and all of us had left it in the exact same place, on top of the toilet paper dispenser.

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

oh god

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

i've made a terrible mistake

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

the one time I've ever lost a phone was a month ago when I left it in a wheelchair when leaving hospital, and it was great to be able to figure out that's what happened when we realised in the middle of the night using find my phone. (It was less great when it got switched off at 8am and we assumed someone had nicked it, but it turned out just to be the security guard conserving my battery.)

toby, Friday, 2 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha

50% of the time, I find my phone on some clothes I left on the floor of the bathroom, right under the toilet paper dispenser

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

the one decent bathroom for pooping on the floor

gosh.

toby, Friday, 2 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

I think what this comes down to is we all are looking at our phones while sitting on the toilet, set it down when we're pulling up our pants, and forget the damn thing

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

basically

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

this is why my favorite restroom at work has the toilet paper dispenser on the left side: I'm right-handed, and will not set my phone on it

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I lost mine in a snowbank when it fell out of my coat pocket getting out of the car

my old Treo was stolen out of my jacket pocket at a church by someone leaving an AA meeting

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/MA7Pk.gif

乒乓, Friday, 2 November 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

as soon as DJP reminded me he's a software development professional I lost 100% of any reason to ever want to talk about software distribution

I just can't talk about stuff like that to someone else who's in the same gig makes me feel ill. We can talk about anything else, though

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha hi-five

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

seriously!

I met up with a friend/coworker and some of his friends for a brewery tap room visit and dinner the other night. Dudes were talking about which new phone they liked, I realized they were software dev bros, and I think I talked to someone's wife about how whole-house humidifiers don't work well and how cheese is good or something

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

what do you guys think of a phone like this?
http://www.turquoisebranding.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/biopink12.jpg

i want my cronenphone dammit

Philip Nunez, Friday, 2 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

I do not want a glowing dildo phone

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

now, glowing dildo text message device, maybe

d-_-b (mh), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

my 15" rmbp, not going to lie though, wish it had an ODD

the late great, Friday, 2 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

skeuomorphic design gone wild

Philip Nunez, Friday, 2 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link


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