Shirley Collins. Classic. Dud is not an option here, I'm afraid.

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Did the CD companion to Electric Eden ever come out?

I found the book kinda dry myself.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

I should have read above. Thanks for the link!

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

xxp yeah there are definitely holes. in fact, last time i looked, spotify was kind of short on davey graham records. don't know about the keenan book? electric eden is definitely one of the best music books i've read in a long while.

tylerw, Friday, 9 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

my favorite yard sale find remains a NM vinyl copy (w/some acceptable front cover damage) of 'adieu to old england' for $1.

― sug ones (omar little), Friday, November 9, 2012 5:04 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

murder of the maria marten - wow!

― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, November 9, 2012 5:04 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

omar - no WAY -- you cannot be serious! that's just unfair.
UMS - are you familiar with the story of maria marten? i recommend reading about the red barn murder/looking at the broadsheet/losing at least a few hours to the saga of maria marten. it's one of my favorites!!

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

no, i have no idea about maria marten, just heard the song for the first time today....will google it

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

one reason i'm glad i read this book cuz i guess i always associated steeleye span with some lamer celtic woman/chieftans type bullshit for some reaons...but yeah this early shit is fucking killer

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm pretty into their guitar sound on those early records. so harsh!

tylerw, Friday, 9 November 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

you will enjoy, also i totally recommend this book if googling doesn't fully satisfy (i'd post a pic of the cover but the ones online suck and i don't feel like scanning mine atm)
http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?keyword=curtis+mackenzie+maria+marten&mtype=B&hs.x=0&hs.y=0

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

Martin Carthy playing electric guitar is such an unlikely thing

buzza, Friday, 9 November 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

another thing i learned from that book:

dave mattacks from fairport convention plays on EVERY RECORD recorded between 1969 and 1973 in the UK

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of books i couldn't resist -- this is the inside cover

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8198/8170675741_e294b122de_c.jpg

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Friday, 9 November 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't there a David Keenan book along similar lines?

He wrote a book about the Current 93/Coil/NWW nexus (England's Hidden Reverse), which may or may not contain some stuff on Shirley Collins (obviously there's links to C93 there). I do remember when I saw the Telstar Ponies in Brighton in 1995-ish, they played an old English folk song (can't remember what) and Keenan dedicated it to her so the guy was definitely ahead of the curve on the whole folk revival revival.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't believe it when i found that lp, LL. the guy had a few hundred records in boxes and i think they'd already been picked over, the only other one i left with was i think a bob james lp.

sug ones (omar little), Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

Telstar Ponies did a tune called Farewell, Farewell, but it's not the Richard Thompson tune from Liege & Lief (itself based on an old tune), but a reworking of various folk songs plus their own material. It builds to a coda which is pretty much a straight quote of Go From My Window which Shirley did a gorgeous version of, so maybe that emerged from their earlier live versions of that song... It's on that great Geographic compilation http://www.dominorecordco.com/uk/geographic/29-01-07/you-dont-need-darkness-to-do-what-you-think-is-right/

Shirley's talks are absolutely wonderful. If you ever get the chance to attend one don't pass it up. I'm sure this point has made on here before, but her book on America Over The Water is essential reading. Apparently she isn't interested in doing further books, which is a shame, considering what a good writer she is and her amazing life, but I have to respect her decision. We have the talks though...

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

seriously omar i would die -- if that happened to me i would pass out and then maybe die
that's just too much. i can't take it.

I'm sure this point has made on here before, but her book on America Over The Water is essential reading.
Agree 100%! It's a great book, and really illuminating wrt the Lomax recordings. I also respect her decision to stop whenever she pleases -- I admire a well-timed exit.

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Saturday, 10 November 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

love the cover:

http://www.kingbeerecords.co.uk/pics/large/shirley_collins-lp-adieu_to_old_england.jpg

it was one of those moments that happens to me a couple times per year where i see a record and then sort of look around and hide it behind another record, and i don't know why i do it but it's instinct. then i have that moment when i hand the money over where i feel like i'm getting away with thievery and i'm about to get caught.

sug ones (omar little), Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

Listen, I'm just going to have to be ok being super envious of that but in the meantime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsyjbKm8DcU

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Saturday, 10 November 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link

that record sleeve is super-nice, especially compared to the horrid reissue

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

slightly OT but wtf at this cover

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/guvnor/images/largerec/bygloucesterdocksisatdownandwept.jpg

buzza, Saturday, 10 November 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

haha, that's almost as wack as henry the human fly

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

i think the deeper you get into the britfolk wormhole the more terrible the covers get
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/2364155960a2feca63af289abce06bdf/42179.jpg
obviously they're trying to show that there's humor, it isn't all doom n gloom, or just pastoral grooves, but errr.

tylerw, Saturday, 10 November 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Was listening to a bit of Malicorne earlier who were kind of like a french version of the Albion Band. Pretty good!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob7HGfpUAxk

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Picked up a nice copy of the 4 Men With Beards reissue of Folk Roots, New Routes

Great record! Nice to have a Davy Graham record without his singing, Shirley is great on this

Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

oh man "hares on the mountain" is so good
the whole thing is good but that song always kills me

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

"love is pleasin'" too

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it is such a good record, didn't know there was a reish.
i was thinking about doing a britfolk lady poll, has that been done before? a no holds barred smackdown between shirley, sandy, anne, jacqui, maybe a couple of others.

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 04:59 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not even going to encourage that because i am so 400% on team shirley that you would have to prod me with an electric zapper in a buenos aires torture dungeon in order to change my mind.

no exaggeration

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:17 (eleven years ago) link

weird.. my friend recommended No Roses to me the other day and i've been jamming it since. poor murdered woman is my jam

big fat dictionary (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:31 (eleven years ago) link

aha, i thought it had been done...

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

I got th ehard back version of America Across The Water last week read 1/2 of it6 between last night nad this morning. Very enjoyable read. Wish there wasa further volume of her memoir, this one covers th erecording trip with Alan Lomax in the late 50s in alternating chapters with her growing up in wartime/postwar Hastings.
So woul dbe great to get somethng that covered the time from her return from the recording trip to her retiring from recording or later. I would love that in her own words.

I stress that i [picked up the hardback version since this seems to be the one version styill around. A softback was available initially but seems to have very rising price. Not sure if Book Depositary who I got it through just happen to have a backlogof hardbacks or what the story is.
In short if you want a copy I'd grab one sooner rather than later
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/America-Over-Water-Shirley-Collins/9780946719662

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 March 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

huh, is the paperback a valuable book? i got it at a local shop for $3 less than two yrs ago.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 17 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I have the first hardback edition. Dunno if it's valuable, but I enjoyed reading it!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 17 March 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.amazon.co.uk/America-Over-Water-Shirley-Collins/dp/0946719918/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1363599514&sr=1-1
paperback.

Get the picture?

SAF seem to have ceased printing & several titles that they put out are becoming scarce. Shame since thye put out some very interesting stuff. Do wish some other label woul dreprint several of them.
The Soft Machine & INcredible String Band ones spring to mind immediately, but there are a few others.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 March 2013 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

This is old news I'm afraid but it was new to me - our Shirley does the voice of a snail making her way home in Nick Abrahams' short film Ekki Mukk:

http://www.nicholasabrahams.com/ekki-mukk.htm

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, you might not want to watch the scene of putrefaction that starts at about 7 minutes in.

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Putrefaction of what?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't want to say in case I ruined the film for you

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I watched like 30 sec of it and it was too poignant so I decided to wait! It'll pass and I'll try again, I'm not worried about the putrefaction.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

WOuldn't nomarlly bother me either but I'm a big fan of ________ :0

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

o no

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

uh huh :(

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

shirley collinses in the news


Union County man donates $50,000 to school in honor of late wife
Posted: May 06, 2013 3:13 PM CDT

The $50,000 donation will be used to build a new media center at the school. The $50,000 donation will be used to build a new media center at the school.

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MAYNARDVILLE (WATE) - A Union County school got a major boost Monday thanks to a donation in memory of a local woman.

Horace Maynard Middle School in Maynardville received a $50,000 donation in honor of Shirley Collins - a former student who attended classes in the building when it still housed the high school.

Freddie Brasfield said the money is to honor Shirley, the love of his life, and create a living memorial to her.

"This is a perpetual program. The Shirley Lynn Collins Media Center is perpetual. We do not ever see it ending, and we will do whatever it takes to keep it at the top of its game," said Brasfield.

The school's library will be converted into a state-of-the-art media center with the funds, including upgraded computers and iPads.

Brasfield says Shirley dedicated her life to helping children achieve their goals.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Good day for a thread revival - it's May 8, Helston Furry Dance Day

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Fm6cfdNSg

Summer is a coming
And winter is a gone-o

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

They should have called it the False True Learner's School.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

Jolly rumble-o! I organized my Shirley Collins CD section today and also earlier this week hung my poster in my new home!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

also lol @ False True Learner's School
hehehehe

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

The Etchingham College of Steam Technology

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link


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