even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

I know -- what was she buying, like sushi-quality fish and gourmet pre-marinated meats? Just like loading up at the pasta bar?

quiddities-style, my sister-in-law and her husband hung out at the yale club after the storm. that ivy league education finally came in handy for them. they live on the 12th floor of an apartment building with no power. so they got a hotel room. i didn't even really think about that part of city living. no elevators. that is way too many stairs.

I know -- what was she buying, like sushi-quality fish and gourmet pre-marinated meats? Just like loading up at the pasta bar?

what an idiot, olive bar is obv. the way to go

beef jerky bar way to go.

otm but that would be the death of me

olive bar would have kept real well! if i was trapped with olives and a cheesewheel (and maybe some smoked sausages), the blackout would have been way less horrible and maybe even sort of awesome, tbh.

totally doing that next time.

Add some red wine and I'm in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/fashion/yale-graduates-seek-a-degree-in-hip-hop.html?smid=tw-share

lol @ 'bryan crawford'

But some critics suspect that Rap Genius’s founders are engaged in a sort of perpetual parody of the music they claim to be rhapsodizing. “There’s a consciousness about what they’re doing — we call it ‘slumming,’ ” said Camille Charles, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania who studies race.

I guess this is kind of a side conversation from this thread, but isn't this pretty much a description of what a significant chunk of chart hip-hop inherently is today? Like doesn't someone like Gucci Mane already have perpetual self-parody kind of built in? Who does this prof think most of the audience for hip-hop is today, and aren't the record labels, producers and rappers themselves aware of that by now?

clowning vs. slumming vs. (apols, but it seems appropriate) tomming.

if they dis you they are showing you respect- gtfo nerd

you just respected him

i'm well known in the comments section of bc.com. who are you?

I don't know, this just seems thematically appropriate to this thread: Heritage Hen Mini Farm

hahaha, nobody who has owned chickens for ten seconds is gonna have a yard that green

“I’m driving in my big Lexus coming down here,” Ms. Warren said, betraying her self-consciousness as she stood in a parking lot amid people riffling through donated clothing. I said, ‘Thank God the car is dirty.’ ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/nyregion/after-hurricane-sandy-helping-hands-also-expose-a-new-york-divide.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/magazine/how-to-survive-societal-collapse-in-suburbia.html?ref=magazine

Jimmy Brady, 35, a New York firefighter who lived next door, was prying up carpet alongside the visitors. “If there is any way you want to get accepted to a family or a community, it is to help,” he said. “I’ve heard it from the hardest locals, that these guys are unbelievable. They get out with their little fedoras and they just start helping.”

lol

ha ha i'm reading about survival guy and thinking, "well, this guy is basically doing the mormon preparedness thing, right?" bingo

In seriousness, I kind of wonder how much of that article was just a reporter looking to force an angle. I mean, if most residents of the rockaways really feel insulted by the relief efforts, that would make me sad, and if most of the people coming there to help have a condescending attitude about it, that would also make me sad. But it's hard for me to believe that's the case. I think of it as just a shared responsibility to pitch in. If my neighborhood were destroyed, I'd want and accept help, and when I volunteered, I tried not to be gawky or walk around snapping pictures. I just figured the sheer need for stuff and hands kind of outweighed any class weirdness or whatever. I mean even focusing on that stuff (OMG MY LEXUS!) seems kind of self-centered.

the lactation consultant story was pretty o_O though. I guess the missionary spirit can be found in secular people too.

Posted this in the Israel thread, but it's kind of perfect for here.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542832_10151167341308003_1128272432_n.jpg

Sharon Udasin reports on on environment, energy, scientific innovation and Negev issues. New Jersey born and bred, Sharon moved to Israel in September 2010, after spending two years as a staff writer at The New York Jewish Week in Manhattan. Prior to her position there, she earned a Master's degree in 2008 from the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University, which directly followed her four years as an undergraduate at the University of Pennsylvania.

Eh I don't care to unpack who gets to be offended by what, nor do I think it's useful. Those who have more/are not in need can handle it, the only important thing is that people who are in need get help. It's too bad if volunteering ppl are being patronizing/unhelpful, that's not good for the organization they ostensibly represent, but it's not really the point, either.

Also tbf breastfeeding WOULD be better, safer, and cheaper for those kids (I guess barring unusual circs like the moms having substance issues or something, but that's true in any population). It's a shame.

That's not necessarily true -- if the mothers work long hours at a place where there's no room for pumping, e.g. And tbf, even if you have a "room" at work, it's a pretty big hassle.

We covered this in another thread, I think you were there, I don't want to rehash at length. But I didn't say it wasn't a hassle. I said it would be better for the kids, which is true regardless of whether the mom's schedule or employer or own choices allow it.

oh jesus for a second i thought you guys were blandly equivocating about the israeli pet-disturbance shit and i was about to flag post the entire thread

Uri Honesh @ Sharon Udasin
Children are being murdered in #Gaza and the Jersualem Post is running a story about puppies in Ashdod afraid of sirens. OK.

tbf breastfeeding WOULD be better, safer, and cheaper for those kids

― grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Monday, November 19, 2012 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xxp I mean the benefit to infants and the mom's time and her work schedule and her own desire to bf or not are all separate conditions that constrain the final outcome but some of them are independent from each other. It will still be healthier, cheaper, and in conditions with possibly tainted water, bottles, nipples, no sterilization, etc, arguably safer.

fair enough

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/business/even-cupid-wants-to-know-your-credit-score.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1356624513-VijgO+3xPsd6YEpUDdIv0w

i mean

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/business/even-cupid-wants-to-know-your-credit-score.html

Lauren Dollard, a 26-year-old assistant at a nonprofit in Houston, said her low credit score had helped to stall her romantic plans. Her boyfriend is wary of marrying her until she can significantly pay down the more than $150,000 she owes in student loans and bolster her credit score, she said.

Feel like in this particular case the credit score per se is not really as much of an issue as dude doesn't want to get married to a lifetime of debt.

nobody actually does this

I think there was another similar article posted on this or the last quiddities thread. I remember commenting that I was glad Jeff and I got serious before I incurred my prodigious law school debt or else I would die alone, or something.

Point being, nobody actually does this but there is small but growing trend of trend pieces about this thing nobody does.

Sarah Klein, who manages myFICO Forums, an online discussion group, likens credit scores to dieting because both affect dating but often are shrouded in secrecy.

...what?

it would be great if at the end of every one of these articles there was just a line 'nobody actually does this'

this made me look up my credit history, which is actually really good I find out

"shrouded in secrecy" = both can be practical characters in your imaginary morality play

My credit score is really good, too, despite my law school debt because I make my loan payments in a timely fashion. Who wants to date me??!?!?! LINE UP, BOYS AND GIRLS!!!!

“Credit scores are like the dating equivalent of a sexually transmitted disease test,”

what? and also no

Hahahah wait, so when is an STI test appropriate then?? Taking out a second mortgage?

Feel like in this particular case the credit score per se is not really as much of an issue as dude doesn't want to get married to a lifetime of debt.

this strikes me more as a striver issue than a ruling class issue

narcissism of small differences

uh not rly

i see what you're saying though. it's either pretend-forgetfulness and shock at credit scores as this new thing that is affecting the dating lives of young people (striver) or pandering to noblesse oblige who need a soft awareness of such things as credit scores in today's economy (ruling). either way it's totally oblivious. xp

how is this different from asking a date how much money they earn? totally rude.