DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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I think I'm going to spoil my ballot tbh, tell me what to write on it

Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 15 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

UR ALL GAY

Alba, Friday, 16 November 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

I know the results don't mean anything at all, but the LibDems are getting completely annihilated in the PCCs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/nov/16/pcc-election-results-police-crime-commissioners

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Ended up voting for the Labour candidate last night btw. Went down at about 9.30 and I'm pretty sure I was the only person they'd seen for an hour, I was like a one-man last minute stampede.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-20358207

^video of them opening an empty ballot box. Turnout was 17%.

studge_siren.gif (onimo), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Meanwhile UKIP beats LibDems in Corby

Corby by-election result

Andy Sawford (Lab) 17,267 (48.41%, +9.71%)
Christine Emmett (C) 9,476 (26.57%, -15.63%)
Margot Parker (UKIP) 5,108 (14.32%)
Jill Hope (LD) 1,770 (4.96%, -9.48%)

studge_siren.gif (onimo), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://pccspoil.tumblr.com/

^ tumblr of spoilt ballots. Sadly the funniest thing I saw on there is that the Surrey UKIP candidate is called Robert Shatwell

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Bah, we have a Tory PCC. May as well just have drawn some cocks for the spoilt ballot tumblr. (Not that I thought my first choice had any hope of getting through, or knew anything about him)

If you'd asked me a year ago if election candidates should stop sending reams of useless and annoying leaflets and the poll card should just have a little bit of text saying "Go to this website to read about the candidates" I might have said it sounded like an OK idea (apart from the people who don't have convenient internet access, of course), but in practice I didn't read that bit of the ballot card until I left to vote and just felt pissed off that I was supposed to vote without having received any information whatsoever.

If that is the new system, then some brightly-coloured leaflets the first time round to tell everyone that's how it works now wouldn't have gone amiss. Or maybe it was hoped that as few people as possible would bother to vote, in which case, job done.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

h8 living in tory crim land

vote! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Kevin Hurley, independent "Zero Tolerance" candidate, is elected on second count in Surrey.

At least he won't 'jack' your body...

dealt with crime and anti-social elements from walking the beat in London and Surrey to writing the National Policing Plan for Iraq.

Huey Lewisies & The Newsie-Wewsies (snoball), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

just looking at the Surrey result and the only person who Robert Shatwell managed to shat well on was gosh, who'd have guessed it, the poor old LibDem guy

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Tories lost their deposit in Manchester byelection, Lib Dems lost theirs in Corby. Hohoho.

all the people on the right, boogaloo (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

:)

conrad, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Totally did not know that electing Sheriffs was Only an American Thing.

Theodora Celery, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/freud-poor-should-take-more-risks-16241291.html

"We've got the circumstances now where... people who are poorer should be prepared to take the biggest risks - they've got least to lose.

"We have, through our welfare system, created a system which has made them reluctant to take risks so we need to turn that on its head and make the system predictable so that people will take those risks. I think we have a dreadful welfare system."

people think i'm joking or being some dumbass extremist when i say cunts like this need killing. i'm not.

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

the lower orders needs an enterprise culture

in nigeria, a young impoverished working class man is prepared to borrow £10,000,000 and offer nothing but his can-do spirit as security

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

what the shitting titting bastard fuck

and belfast telegraph? nothing against them lovely people i'm sure but this should be fucking drudgesiren newsflash in mile high skywriting across the country.

ledge, Friday, 23 November 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

that quote isn't even in the guardian article.

ledge, Friday, 23 November 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

gaping in horror

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

He's referred to the disabled as 'stock' before, in the context of moving people from one benefits system to another.

rihanna, you will never learn (suzy), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

"We have, through our welfare system, created a system which has made them reluctant to take risks so we need to turn that on its head and make the system predictable so that people will take those risks.

"I think we have a dreadful welfare system."

He added: "You know, the incapacity benefits, the lone parents, the people who are self-employed for year after year and only earn hundreds of pounds or a few thousand pounds, the people waiting for their work ability assessment then not going to it - all kinds of areas where people are able to have a lifestyle off benefits and actually off conditionality."

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

I think you don't have to be the corpse to go to a funeral

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

Guys we shld be pretty careful before taking on an investment banker who sometimes gets shouted at

stet, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

Don't usually rate or link to Toynbee but this is important:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/22/2013-boom-year-bailiffs-slum-landlords

A lot of the standard Westminster gossip seems to suggest that Cameron tried to gently shuffle Ian Duncan Smith out of work and pensions last year but bottled actually forcing it, which suggests that Universal Credit is going to be a bigger clusterfuck than most people anticipate.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

I mean we actually DO have a dreadful welfare system, it's overly complex and confusing to the people who actually have to rely on it, money isn't always going to the places where it's needed most, and the whole system appears to be geared towards catching people out as much as helping them. But there's no way I want any "solution" from this lot.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

there's no way I want as welfare minister a guy who thinks that someone right on the poverty line (where all you have left to lose is your home, health and life) has less to lose than the successful risk-taker who may be at risk of losing his second home or holiday villa if he takes another risk. I don't even want that sort of cunt in parliament, tbh

stet, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm finding it harder and harder to muster feelings about this government more complex and subtle than just wishing slow painful and debilitating death upon them.

"Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

and stet otm

"Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

No one has less to lose than a corpse, I suppose.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

Vote Liberal Democrat.

Quite a few more corpses already as a result of these welfare reforms, and more to come... roll up, roll up undertakers!

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

Tories lost their deposit in Manchester byelection, Lib Dems lost theirs in Corby. Hohoho.

Walking the walk on deficit reduction.

Bananaman Begins, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

of course Matt is right, the welfare system is a shambles and it does plenty to create patronage, loss of self-esteem, dependency, lowered life expectations...it takes a tremendous price just for the chance to adopt a glam lifestyle of being stoned in front of a big telly watching Jeremy Kyle all day.

and of course none of this is going thru these inhuman vermins' heads every time they call for "reform".

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

just in case anybody had any doubts about whether there was any way to deal with the ruling class other than total war

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

there's no way I want as welfare minister a guy who thinks that someone right on the poverty line (where all you have left to lose is your home, health and life) has less to lose than the successful risk-taker who may be at risk of losing his second home or holiday villa if he takes another risk. I don't even want that sort of cunt in parliament, tbh
― stet, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:55 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

less to lose before dying - it's kind of true??

^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure what taking a risk actually means though. rob a bank?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

join the $1 satellite to WSOP?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just... the more i think about the mental morbius loops involved in this kind of thinking the more I worry about my blood pressure levels. What a fucking tapeworm of a man.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he's a sincere Situationist and wants us all to escape the numbing tedium of Capitalism

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

just realised I spelled Möbius wrong. #toomuchtimeonilx

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

You've let yourself down, you've let ILX down but, most importantly, you've let Michael Gove down

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

what the fuck does "take a risk" mean? honestly?

vote! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

They want you to think it means "start a business" but what they actually mean is "move to a part of the country where there are more jobs in Asda and you're not taking up a house that could be rented to a middle class person for twice as much".

Matt DC, Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

take a loan from wonga to finance a cialis pyramid scheme

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

sell equity in shed and invest it in a portfolio of charity shops in lancashire mill towns

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

move to haringey, befriend local deposed somali warlords, buy option to establish timeshare schemes in vibrant post-conflict mogadishu

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

use your benefits to buy new bootstraps to pull yourself up by

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

UKIP trolling heavily:

"Cameron is the major obstacle," [Farage] added. "If someone pragmatic, grown-up and sensible like Michael Gove was leader, then you might think we could sit round the table and have a proper discussion."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20490937

c sharp major, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

the grown-up manchild who puts the 'gove' into government

all mimsy were the michael goves (ledge), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Smith's large size, larger-than-life personality and popular television appearances made him one of the most recognisable British MPs of the 1970s. He is believed to have been the heaviest British MP ever: at 6'2" (188cm) he had a reported weight of 29 stone 12 pounds, about 190 kilograms.[21] His nickname, "Big Cyril", was also the title of his autobiography. A common joke on the size of the Parliamentary Liberal Party in the early 1970s was that only one taxi would be needed to transport the entire party; after Smith's election, the party could fill two taxis.[22]

Suffering from cancer[23] and weighing just 10 stone,[24] Smith died in his sleep in a Rochdale nursing home on 3 September 2010.[25]

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh rogues gallery in anti-Leveson diatribe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20517798

Notable that lead signatory D Blunkett was a well-paid Murdoch employee.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link


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