Y U BRAEK HART KID ROCK
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
Every person I know who grew up with, has hung with, or even casually knows Kid Rock - and there are a shocking number, all things considered - says he is a great guy who gives a lot back to Detroit and generally has your back. His music is indeed terrible, but maybe that is what keeps him humble.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure he is a nice guy - the New Yorker profile certainly made him seem decent. I guess I should probably let go of the disappointment over the quality of his musical offerings that has now plagued me for now more than half my life.
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, moveon.org.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
Who'd have guessed a thread on New Yorker articles could be so cathartic?
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
People who make terrible music often turn out to be really nice people. Unfortunately the opposite is also true :/
― badg, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
music who makes people terrible nice?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Just learned Alex Ross is queer.
Yeah, I didn't learn this until I started following him on Twitter and he was promoting his partner's film.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
v. excited to read the Dead article
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
i knew people would complain about the dead article but i thought it was really good, aside from a couple of corny moments. did a nice job of explaining something i don't know much about to me, which is basically what i look for in a NYer article. this week's issue is solid, the article by the guy whose mom went to jail for shaking a baby and the profile of the controversial megachurch pastor were good too, and jill lepore on taxes had some interesting parts.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/11/after-gaza-a-single-state.html
Surprisingly concrete and radical position for something published in the NYer. A french tourist on the subway once saw my sister-in-law reading the new yorker and asked her "This magazine, what does it stand for? I cannot tell."
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
didn't kid rock beat eminem in some early rap competitions?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he choked, he was so mad, but he wouldnt give up that easy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like young kid rock and eminem struck a secret blood brothers bargain to set off to conquer rap using two different strategies, and who got which strategy depended on the toss of some D&D dice.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Record store clerk friend of mine said Kid Rock came into the shop (pre MTC hit) and he bought "every good record in the store." I still find that hard to believe, though.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
MTV, even.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:41 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that reminds me of the italian journalist i sat next to at dinner once, who had covered war crimes trials in the hague and other important things, who said to me when i told her my beat was movies and food, "you only write about... pleassssure."
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
ironic nationality dialectic
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
anecdotes that could be newyorker cartoons
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
s1ocki that is amazing
― goole, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
i have been haunted by it ever since
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
xp I interviewed Kid Rock in 99 and really warmed to him despite having no connection to his music, politics, tastes, cultural reference points, etc. He's someone who knows exactly what he is, what he's into and what he's good at, and that genial self-assurance is so rare that it's kind of infectious. I liked him just as much in Kelefa's profile, unlike pretty much every other celebrity Romney supporter.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't read the article yet but does it explain why he's into romney?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
he doesn't want to pay taxes, mainly
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, insofar as anyone can explain it.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
sannehs actually, look at how charming this red state icon is shtick is p dubious imho, like kid rock for all his rebel flag flying is harmless but his piece on michael savage was ridiculously credulous, he totally bought into the whole rushland bullshit con that theyre just entertainers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
it has elements of the nyer aging npr listener explainer but more broadly falls into the common journalistic assumption that if their subject is being nice to them that represents an essential truth, the only piece of his that i can recall him not blowing tons smoke up the guys ass is will oldham, who was clearly a total dick
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
oldham was maybe more specifically suspicious of the whole process and kinda didnt give a fuck while everyone else are seasoned media players actively charming pants off a reporter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
i guess painting someone who yr readership already thinks is an asshole as such is uninteresting for them idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Kid Rock kept saying that he wanted a nerd to look after his money, and Romney is a nerd.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Obama is also a nerd
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
^this is the sort of push back any sort of responsible journalist would engage in
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
i would protest harping on that several years old michael savage piece except i remember just how credulous and awful it was - there are ways to write a non-straight up hatchet piece on a guy and still let them hang themselves w/ their words and actions (nearly any great negative celeb profile pulls this off), the times magazine did a piece on limbaugh that managed to give him his due while still letting the world know that no really, he's an asshole. thought this kid rock piece kinda managed that - didn't just go 'lol kid rock' but at the same time let us know that guy's existence is problematic at best (have no doubt it oversold the album he made w/ rick rubin though).
loved the dead piece, was kinda lolling at how long and aimless it was at times but at the same time wouldn't have minded if it had gone on a thousand words more.
― balls, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
was kinda lolling at how long and aimless it was at times but at the same time wouldn't have minded if it had gone on --balls
roffle
― sug life (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
form meets content
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
What did the New Yorker reader say when the drugs wore off? This Dead piece sucks!
(Haven't read it yet, just wanted to enlist the classic Dead joke.)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha that one actually gets a mention in the article *spoiler*
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
anybody make it through the iraqi family story with a dry eye? what a story. this whole issue's pretty great
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
I did, but I have no more tears to shed.
― Khaleeesi (Leee), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
god that just ripped me apart. that family, the mother especially, what amazing, magnanimous people. fuck war
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
this is the one about the soldier from a couple weeks back?, or something this week?
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the one from a couple weeks ago
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Just read that(skipping around and catching up). Intense.
― dan selzer, Friday, 23 November 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Kid Rock piece was pretty great, I thought. Interesting angle on race in that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Thought the "Iron Curtain" book review was so good I don't need to read the book.
^^ this. excellent review.
― Mordy, Saturday, 24 November 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
hate you guys encouraging me to rescind defeat/go back to my pile of unfinished new yorkers so much
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Saturday, 24 November 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
i've been doing that this month (30+ issues behind atm), it's brilliant
― 炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 24 November 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
Alex Ross on the centennial of "The Rite of Spring," regrettably paywalled, and regrettably only 2 pages: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2012/11/19/121119crmu_music_ross
― I was in a prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Saturday, 24 November 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
Kid rock piece was great even though I don't give a fuck about kid rock - more interesting than ?uestlove piece
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 24 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
that piece on the soldier who went back to speak to the victims of his squad's assault is kinda amazing
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 November 2012 06:08 (eleven years ago) link