The Beatles

Unless you're on a heavy amount of crack, Lennon of course.

Another vote for Cold Turkey version of Oh Darling.

Hey PiscesX, like what? Do tell!

oh i've no idea of the details but here's more
http://www.examiner.com/article/author-mark-lewisohn-says-beatles-bio-will-be-filled-with-wow-moments

what confuses me is.. how can he possibly know this stuff isn't already 'out there' these 'wows on every page'? has he read EVERY single Fabs book ever, of which there must be many hundreds? i mean maybe he has, he is the world's leading expert. either way consider me psyched.

I'm inclined to believe Lewisohn, thus I am psyched

http://www.duncancumming.co.uk/photos/dick.jpg

as over-documented as the Beatles' lives were, i can definitely believe that some very interesting stuff (wows may vary with level of fandom) still coming to light as long as most eyewitnesses are still living

yeah i believe Ringo went to the toilet once

that article piscesx linked to has links to a four part interview with Lewisohn on you tube

I didn't think there was much more that was interesting that could be revealed about the Beatles, but Doggett's book was pretty mindblowing. No one has an unkind word to say about Lewisohn, so I'm hopeful.

mm yeah the Doggett book is the shiznit.

is the doggett book You Never Give Me Your Money?

i have a cassette tape of bootleg rarities i got from someone on AOL back when i was like 15 and it has a version of 'get back' with john singing lead! i've never liked that song at all (despite shout-out to my hometown) but the john version was absolutely awesome. no idea how it didn't make it onto anthology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcdSRXslCgM

Is this it, JD?

can't watch that while i'm at work, but assuming it's at least 1000 times better

is the doggett book You Never Give Me Your Money?

Yep. Can't recommend it enough. Reading it, you think, "Oh man, this band really got screwed...waitaminit...'this band' is the Beatles."

Yeah, You Never Give Me Your Money is great. Like Tarfumes said, there's a lot of stuff in there I'd never heard about before - the extent of George Harrison's injuries after being stabbed by the guy who broke into his house being the one which springs most readily to mind. The scale of the fuckedness of Apple was pretty eye-opening, too. The extent of the rancour and pettiness they inflicted on each other is heartbreaking.

Is there a song by John mainly sung by Paul or vice-versa ?

"Day Tripper," yes?

ooh yeah that Doggett book sounds like a treat! I will investigate

You may get a headache trying to keep the maze of lawyers and meetings straight ("On Tuesday, Ringo met with Paul's lawyer, who set up a separate offshore holding corporation for George's publishing, 2/3rds of which were under the control of Dick James, whose publishing company was a subsidiary of EMI and subject to tax withholding, but not if 4/5ths of it was buried under the third quadrant of Atlantis. Then John called Paul an asshole.")

I love Paul's runthrough of Strawberry Fields Forever (it's from the Get Back sessions...maybe it's on Anthology?)

Not on Anthology - is this the one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMrL-sIoazg

You may get a headache trying to keep the maze of lawyers and meetings straight

I loved all that contract-spaghetti stuff! Maybe I just have a bureaucratic mind.

yeah I'm down. I'll wheel out the whiteboard just in case

http://www.dbxsoftware.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/whiteboard-1024x679.jpg

why it's as simple as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28!

28!

Blimey, that's 304888344611713860501504000000

Yeah, Doctor Casino, that's the one...I love when Paul sings John songs and vice versa

Along those lines, I wasn't aware of this version until the last year or so, even though it appeared to be common knowledge for most everyone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5yzdCa2GE

That Richard Starkey's a helluva songwriter.

Yeah, that's my favourite Ringo solo tune!

And then there's George changing the lyrics again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixeP2713TRA

Thanks for recommending You Never Give Me Your Money. Thought I could never read another Beatles book again but really enjoying this.

Yep. Can't recommend it enough. Reading it, you think, "Oh man, this band really got screwed...waitaminit...'this band' is the Beatles."
OTM. I kept having this weird thought like "Oh I see, this is some sort of fan fiction: what if they Beatles had a really acrimonious breakup and... oh wait"

You may get a headache trying to keep the maze of lawyers and meetings straight ("On Tuesday, Ringo met with Paul's lawyer, who set up a separate offshore holding corporation for George's publishing, 2/3rds of which were under the control of Dick James, whose publishing company was a subsidiary of EMI and subject to tax withholding, but not if 4/5ths of it was buried under the third quadrant of Atlantis. Then John called Paul an asshole.")

― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:22 AM (3 days ago)
This is a pretty accurate description. For the purposes of telling this story this actually kind of works, as if all the lawyering is some kind of displacement for the internal turmoil going on between them and every once in a while a fact or proper noun from the waking life seeps into the legalistic dreamworld, for me it read like: Lawyer, lawyer, publishing, lawyer, Klein, lawyer, lawyer, All Things Must Pass, lawyer, Nilsson, lawyer, May Pang, lawyer, Eastman, lawyer, NIlsson, Chapman, Moon, lawyer, Isaac Asimov (!), lawyer ...

Suddenly, everyone became amazingly litigious. I remember I'd get up in the morning. Sue someone. Check in the papers that I hadn't been fired. Go to the office. Sue someone. Pick up the morning's writs. Sue the bank. Go out for lunch. Sue the restaurant. Get back in, collect the writs that had been received that afternoon. Read the papers. Phone the papers. Sue the papers. Then go home. Sue the wife.

Isaac Asimov?

Myonga quoting steve martin there?

Had to look it up. It's from All You Need Is Cash, the Rutles movie, which I have seen many times, the art of pretend forgetfulness, embarrassed to say. Guess it's time to watch it again.

lol it just reads like something from one of Martin's early books

Have you never seen that movie, Shakey? You should, it might cheer you up. I would lend you my copy if you weren't on the other side of the country. I will have to lend it to Hurting instead.

Asimov wrote a film treatment on Macca's request. The story is kind of funny. Maybe I will type it in.

'He had the basic idea for the fantasy, which involved two sets of musical groups,' Asimov recalled, 'a real one, and a group of extraterrestrial imposters. The real one would be in pursuit of the imposters and would eventually defeat them, despite the fact that the latter had supernormal powers.' Beyond that framework, McCartney offered Asimov nothing more than 'a snatch of dialogue describing the moment when the group realised they were being victimised by imposters'. Asimov set to work and produced a screenplay that he called 'suspenseful, realistic and moving'. But McCartney rejected it. As Asimov recalled, 'He went back to his one scrap of dialogue out of of which he apparently couldn't move.'

oh yeah I've seen the Rutles, have the record etc

Don't know which is more very much in character, Macca scrapping the whole project because the line of dialogue wasn't used or Asimov's enthusiastic appraisal of his own work.

'suspenseful, realistic and moving' doesn't seem very Beatlesque frankly

i wonder if that would've been better or worse than the rejected screenplay joe orton wrote for them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_Against_It

Apparently it's buried in some Asimov archive in the Library of Congress so we may never know.

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Nor Asimovesque for that matter. Wasn't there some thread started by Tracer Hand about terrible over-expository first sentences in which the lion's share were by Asimov?

Have you guys read any reviews of the new Lennon letters collection? Some cherce nuggets here:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-10/john-lennon-savages-beatles-fans-mccartney-in-letters.html?cmpid=otbrn.muse.story&#cmpid=hash.test

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7xr3gu

^^ Documentary from BBC Radio 2's 'The Producers' series about George Martin, m4a format

Note item number 5:
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The Beatles rule.

Maybe they wouldn't perform before segregated audiences, but that didn't stop them from demanding a bowl of jelly babies in their dressing room with all the brown ones removed.

You don't get brown ones.