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Agree with that too.

New iTunes is really good. No complaints other than column view for the side is gone.

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/11/29/itunes-11-for-old-fogies-goin-back-to-the-way-it-was/

I did that in the first 30 seconds. :)

That's not what I meant tho. Column browser is on only on the top now. No option for the side

My iTunes library file is on an external, in addition to the songs, fwiw

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/11/29/itunes-11-for-old-fogies-goin-back-to-the-way-it-was/

Thanks for this!

i hate how the new search works

You can get the old one back by clicking on the little magnifying glass in the search box and unchecking "search entire library"

Really expected this to be shit, but it feels like a real improvement!

thanks for the search tip!

i really miss the various album cover things, but the little pop-in album art/playlist box is kinda neat, mostly how the background color is matched to the album picture itself

YAY MINIPLAYER -- the only thing I don't like about iTunes is not having an easily visible "what song is playing" in the corner of my screen and now I do!

bought a new 15-inch macbook pro today. retina looked pretty sweet but couldn't swing the $$$ for it.

Miss the volume slider from the old mini player.

JUST checked out new miniplayer. GREAT. Almost. I used to hate old miniplayer because I'd constantly minimize and maximize and move it around.

For a long time I had some extension that put the name of the current song in the menu bar and when you clicked on it you could pause it, skip etc. Really simple text only graphics, nothing fancy. When you have as much random stuff as I do it's great to hear something and be like "what is this?" and just look up and see. This new miniplayer is nice, but I'd still prefer txt of the song title rather than just a picture of the cover. Whoah, I see now when a new song starts the title pops up. It should stay there.

i take it all back. This search/find thing. ugh. Did a search and upon selection, it knocks me out of the normal old school view into the new one, then I click on the song and it adds it to my queue.

holy shit wtf now every time I click on a song instead of playing it it asks me if I want to "clear the song previously added to up next?"

ok I see, you just have to clear it out, then you're not in "up next" mode and you can play songs normally.

You can get the old one back by clicking on the little magnifying glass in the search box and unchecking "search entire library"

― sktsh, Saturday, December 1, 2012 2:25 PM (Yesterday)

thanks

it was driving me nuts too

Reminders is kind of shit.

However, I would like to report that I am thoroughly enjoying my first Mac, though I'm still a little confused. Like, why is Firefox a disk drive? How is that possible? (Not expecting an answer; just giving a for instance.)

in away, ~everything~ is a "disk drive"

haha okay so you've fallen victim to like the hardest thing to understand about macs. You don't want to be running Firefox from that fake disk drive. see this article

don't listen to s1ocki

OK, I did what I was supposed to, which I would never have done without your advice, so thanks, silby.

So strange. Why? I'm annoyed, but I'm also genuinely curious - why is it that way? Why not just install the bastard program (app?) where it's supposed to go?

(I promise not to clutter this thread with a ton of requests for support.)

Legacy reasons really. Even the guy who came up with it admits it's dumb and was supposed to be a temporary solution

Some applications will "install" themselves because they need to put stuff in your library folder, but usually you just drag the 'file' (which is usually a folder akin to a zip file) over to applications. Much prefer this system to be honest, because you can usually run a program temporarily to try it out.

Ok I'm scared to update.

I use playlists and (nesting playlist folders) in the sidebar almost exclusively. Even for albums, I create a new playlist. (This is INSANE, I know, but when listening to only .0003% or whatever of your library in the course of a given week, it seems the best way of keeping what I'm into at the moment

Anyway the one thing that has made me crazy for years is why I can't simply drag-and-drop to rearrange playlists and playlist folders according to my preference. Instead they lock into alphabetical order, so when titling them I have to put some stupid character Ω ≈ †† in front of it....

Can someone explain if they have finally fixed this, or if the sidebar has been obsoleted for the better?

ugh pls ignore all those parentheses

I actually use playlists in pretty much the same way. With 11, the playlist view works well for me. And in the songs view you can drag and drop to create playlists in much the same way as 10. The sidebar 'appears' whenever you begin to drag a select and drag a song.

Thanks. But can I drop and drag to re-order the playlists? I mean, order them other than alphabetically?

"drag and drop"

First World problems up in here

i use playlists too, what i usually do is create a smart playlist with the last how many ever added songs in it, so i can browse recents easily

far as I can tell the sidebar works like it used to. I'd say you should email apple and suggest a sidebar view option, but I don't see how that would work and I'm sure they wouldn't bother. Why don't you just make a playlist folder called "this week" or whatever and put the .0003% in there?

...so nobody had a solution to my problem or...?

I think the answer was to go to the little magnifying glass and switch search from "Entire Library" to "All". This appears to make search work like it used to, and is definitely improved my performance on an external drive.

Or did you have another question I missed, Mr. Raggett?

is definitely improved = has definitely improved

I don't see how that would work and I'm sure they wouldn't bother

This is what makes me CRAZY. Shouldn't it be easy to just make the playlists so you can put them in any order you want? And why wouldn't they want to do that? Especially w/ the mania for list-making, ranking, etc. It seems so basic to me....

EZ -- thanks, that may well be exactly what's needed. I'll try it tonight.

xpost the only workaround I can think of is to put a numeral, or alphanumeral, at the start of each playlist name. Much more annoying than dragging them to different positions.

I don't know, to allow putting the playlist in any order would require an entire new way of thinking. There's nothing in OSX that allows something like that, so they'd hardly consider it. Even if they added "list" style sorting "view by date added" "view by length" etc, that would be a stretch. I'm not saying I don't appreciate why you'd want to do that or that I wouldn't find that useful, just considering that that seems really unlikely based on the history of apple interface design.

eh? the finder sidebar allows it. exact same paradigm

oh yeah. good point.

still, conceptually, they probably see the playlists more like they see a list items in a finder window. Something to be automatically sorted, not personalized and organized.

well i mean the finder used to be spatial until OS X.

i mean it would be a pretty major rethink of the itunes UI, and obviously apple is trying to make everything look like a suedette webpage these days, but i would be interested.

I'm confused - we're just talking about reordering the playlists in the sidebar, right? that's like the most minor change I can think of. Am amazed it doesn't work, tbh

yeah i'm making a more general point that you can or could reorganize stuff much more dramatically (ugh) than in the new finder sidebar, and it seems like a problem where, if all your arranging is 100s of similar items (just playlists, nothing like the complexity of the finder) it should be pretty easy.

also lol apple UI design since 2000.

you're

oh man now I'm ready to burn Apple down to the ground. You can no longer open playlists in their own windows. I spend half my waking hours with multiple playlists open, in windows tiled in different monitors, so I can compare playlists and move songs between them. This is brutal and is really really going to piss me off if they don't put that back. Other people are complaining.

damn that sucks

oof hadnt noticed that one! SUCKS!