Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Low point of my guardian reading year was flicking through the G2 a few weeks back and my eyes alighting on Hadley Freeman using the word 'obvs' in her SHIT FUCKING FASHION ADVICE COLUMN.

Can we all agree that the G2 is the thing that annoys most about the Guardian?

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

so glad someone else hates that column. she hasn't got a fucking clue.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

I quite like her other pieces but she just doesn't really seem that interested in fashion.

Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

this is the thing, she pretty much is annoyed by almost every item of clothing that anyone ever asks her about. irritated both by trends and by... jeans.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

Can we all agree that the G2 is the thing that annoys most about the Guardian?

I thought this was a universally recognised truth, Fridays excepted.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

i never buy the physical paper so it's sort of hard to tell

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure that 90% of the matey "I know right?", Guardian We-type lifestyle articles that are linked here are from G2. That sort of writing is terrible in all broadsheets though, I hate the assumption that you all de facto agree with the writer's opinions and share their lifestyle at the same time.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

isn't that the agenda of all lifestyle/culture/commentary-based journalism in general though?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

Can we all agree that the G2 is the thing that annoys most about the Guardian?

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:42 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well there's that and steve bell

caek, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

and martin robbins

caek, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

A Sideways Look At The News

Bananaman Begins, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

steve bell is so bad

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

there are bits of G2 I actually quite like. It's a fairly predictable read, but y'know. Steve Bell can go suck a fuck though.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

In a Paris attic apartment decorated like a 19th-century dandy's den, a rottweiler snores on a velvet couch and dozens of candles give out a half-light. Pete Doherty kicks an apple core round the living room rug and chats in broken French to a friend on his cracked iPhone. Balzac novels are stacked high on the window ledge.

This is Paris Pete, the rocker who now sings solo as Peter Doherty, writes poetry, paints and has made his debut as a French arthouse-cinema actor.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

that was a pretty good piece i thought, not the writer's fault the subject is such a tool

jabba hands, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Doherty's Old Albion Englishness – the William Blake allusions, the pork-pie hat, the "tickety-boo" expressions – that seemed a bit fantastical at home are lapped up in France. He plays up to the Englishman-in-Paris tag. "I go into the newsagent and say: 'It looks like rain today.' And they're saying: 'You can't talk about the weather, this is the country of revolution!'"

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

lol "arthouse-cinema actor"

caek, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

god there really is no sympathetic side in the Russia vs HM Gov vs The Graun throwdown is there?

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

No. The Guardian's Russia coverage is absolutely abysmal so it's understandable the embassy is narked but if they stopped publishing outlandish rumours and slanted thinkpieces and just reported what the Russian government was actually up to it'd make Putin look even worse.

Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Think I would take the Graun over Russia in this one tbh, annoying as the former often is.

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

that was a pretty good piece i thought, not the writer's fault the subject is such a tool

seconded

"Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't read the piece but i dunno why you'd want to write about Paris Pete in December 2012

Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

406 comments and 789 Facebook shares, i guess. He's still a draw.

Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

truly he is our generation's Osbert Sitwell

Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

Oh Christ this intro

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/dec/05/david-mamet-anarchist-broadway

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 December 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link

*facepalm*

jed_, Friday, 7 December 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

That's Mark Lawson-level.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

musta took brass balls to write that

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

I was just going to mention Mark Lawson. His tortuous Front Row intros often beggar belief ... but I kind of admire them.

Alba, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

Ramen: the cult Japanese dish that's big in Britain too

The tasty noodle broth offers a punk rock twist on comfort food – and it's increasingly popular in the UK

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, that was a good one.

while establishments such as Wagamama, Glasgow and Cardiff's Ichiban restaurants and Birmingham's Woktastic have been offering bowls of ramen-style noodle soups for years, finally, the proper stuff has arrived

It's true that something only can truly be said to have 'arrived' once it reaches London - the (urgh) provinces don't count.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

Fish and chips: the cult British dish that's big in Japan too

The tasty fish supper offers a punk rock twist on tempura – and it's increasingly popular in Japan

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

It's true that something only can truly be said to have 'arrived' once it reaches London - the (urgh) provinces don't count

Wagamama's is in London, plus the point being made is surely that the named establishments don't serve "proper" ramen (whatever that may be). No idea whether this is true or not but the writer's point has nothing to do with London vs. provinces.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 10 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

Being a cutting edge ultra-hip guy I have been to two of the capital's newest Ramen wonderestaurants and tbh they are head and shoulders above yr regular wagamama fare.

ledge, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

which ones? interested

tpp, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

maybe take it to the london restaurants thread

tpp, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

yh the stuff at yr fancy new ramen places is very different from the "ramen-style noodle soups" you get even in uk japanese restaurants like, e.g., london's Taro. I've never been to an ichiban but from their website they seem to use the same stock for ramen and udon and soba, which very heavily implies they're not doing "proper" ramen.

c sharp major, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, yes the idea of ramen as "cult" in japan is ludicrous, and london-centricity is eternally annoying, but we haven't had shops before that have really paid attention to making ramen they way you'd get it in a ramen-ya.

c sharp major, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Was the headline "Let's get to ramen" ?

Mark G, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

I was just going to mention Mark Lawson. His tortuous Front Row intros often beggar belief ... but I kind of admire them.

Know what you mean, he's like the McGonagall of militantly middlebrow arts journalism.

Bananaman Begins, Monday, 10 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

those ramen places are good, whatever language the guardian coats it in. tonkotsu all the way.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

wagamama and ichiban are both woeful.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

Fish and chips: the cult British dish that's big in Japan too

The tasty fish supper offers a punk rock twist on tempura – and it's increasingly popular in Japan

ha ha

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

describing fish and chips as a "cult British dish" just seems so wrong.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

...

c sharp major, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

lol c#

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

fish and chips is more probably more 'cult' in the uk than ramen is in japan

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

"cult" seems to be used to describe anything/everything.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

our local "cult" cinema club showed Die Hard last week

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link


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