A Sideways Look At The News
― Bananaman Begins, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
steve bell is so bad
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
there are bits of G2 I actually quite like. It's a fairly predictable read, but y'know. Steve Bell can go suck a fuck though.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
In a Paris attic apartment decorated like a 19th-century dandy's den, a rottweiler snores on a velvet couch and dozens of candles give out a half-light. Pete Doherty kicks an apple core round the living room rug and chats in broken French to a friend on his cracked iPhone. Balzac novels are stacked high on the window ledge.
This is Paris Pete, the rocker who now sings solo as Peter Doherty, writes poetry, paints and has made his debut as a French arthouse-cinema actor.
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
that was a pretty good piece i thought, not the writer's fault the subject is such a tool
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
Doherty's Old Albion Englishness – the William Blake allusions, the pork-pie hat, the "tickety-boo" expressions – that seemed a bit fantastical at home are lapped up in France. He plays up to the Englishman-in-Paris tag. "I go into the newsagent and say: 'It looks like rain today.' And they're saying: 'You can't talk about the weather, this is the country of revolution!'"
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol "arthouse-cinema actor"
― caek, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/04/russian-embassy-responds-to-guardian
― Alba, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
god there really is no sympathetic side in the Russia vs HM Gov vs The Graun throwdown is there?
― Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
No. The Guardian's Russia coverage is absolutely abysmal so it's understandable the embassy is narked but if they stopped publishing outlandish rumours and slanted thinkpieces and just reported what the Russian government was actually up to it'd make Putin look even worse.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
Think I would take the Graun over Russia in this one tbh, annoying as the former often is.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
seconded
― "Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't read the piece but i dunno why you'd want to write about Paris Pete in December 2012
― Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
406 comments and 789 Facebook shares, i guess. He's still a draw.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
truly he is our generation's Osbert Sitwell
― Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
Oh Christ this intro
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/dec/05/david-mamet-anarchist-broadway
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 December 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
*facepalm*
― jed_, Friday, 7 December 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link
That's Mark Lawson-level.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
musta took brass balls to write that
― let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
I was just going to mention Mark Lawson. His tortuous Front Row intros often beggar belief ... but I kind of admire them.
― Alba, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Ramen: the cult Japanese dish that's big in Britain too
The tasty noodle broth offers a punk rock twist on comfort food – and it's increasingly popular in the UK
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, that was a good one.
while establishments such as Wagamama, Glasgow and Cardiff's Ichiban restaurants and Birmingham's Woktastic have been offering bowls of ramen-style noodle soups for years, finally, the proper stuff has arrived
It's true that something only can truly be said to have 'arrived' once it reaches London - the (urgh) provinces don't count.
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Fish and chips: the cult British dish that's big in Japan too
The tasty fish supper offers a punk rock twist on tempura – and it's increasingly popular in Japan
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
It's true that something only can truly be said to have 'arrived' once it reaches London - the (urgh) provinces don't count
Wagamama's is in London, plus the point being made is surely that the named establishments don't serve "proper" ramen (whatever that may be). No idea whether this is true or not but the writer's point has nothing to do with London vs. provinces.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 10 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Being a cutting edge ultra-hip guy I have been to two of the capital's newest Ramen wonderestaurants and tbh they are head and shoulders above yr regular wagamama fare.
― ledge, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
which ones? interested
― tpp, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
maybe take it to the london restaurants thread
yh the stuff at yr fancy new ramen places is very different from the "ramen-style noodle soups" you get even in uk japanese restaurants like, e.g., london's Taro. I've never been to an ichiban but from their website they seem to use the same stock for ramen and udon and soba, which very heavily implies they're not doing "proper" ramen.
― c sharp major, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, yes the idea of ramen as "cult" in japan is ludicrous, and london-centricity is eternally annoying, but we haven't had shops before that have really paid attention to making ramen they way you'd get it in a ramen-ya.
― c sharp major, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
Was the headline "Let's get to ramen" ?
― Mark G, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Know what you mean, he's like the McGonagall of militantly middlebrow arts journalism.
― Bananaman Begins, Monday, 10 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
those ramen places are good, whatever language the guardian coats it in. tonkotsu all the way.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
wagamama and ichiban are both woeful.
― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
ha ha
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
describing fish and chips as a "cult British dish" just seems so wrong.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
...
― c sharp major, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol c#
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
fish and chips is more probably more 'cult' in the uk than ramen is in japan
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
"cult" seems to be used to describe anything/everything.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
our local "cult" cinema club showed Die Hard last week
― Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
It was on cult telly last night
― kinder, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
real heads no the score about forgotten classics of modern cinema
― Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Ramen is obviously not inherently "cult" in Japan but the ultra-high-end stuff arguably might be.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but that's like describing wine as cult because some people spend hundreds on rare burgundies even if 90% of the time it's just cheap intoxicant
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
i think this is clearly the lesser of two evils compared to the use of 'punk rock' as an adjective in food writing
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
agree that's terrible tho it didn't seem as surprising or unusual
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
xp True on both counts. I guess if they're talking specifically about high-end stuff like Tonkatsu it makes a certain sense though.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
I guess you get ramen that's explicitly "gourmet" and sold at higher prices, e.g. tonkotsu made with kagoshima kurobuta, or kaisen ramen w/ lobster or whatever in it, but that still doesn't feel 'cult'. just... luxury. 'A bowl of ramen made with the most ridiculously expensive ingredients' is the kind of thing that celebrities get for winning some kind of silly game on a variety show (one variation on the game: 'guess the price of this dish')? Does not read "cult" to me.
ps tonkatsu is pork 'cutlets' (i.e. breaded/fried), tonkotsu is pork-bone broth.
― c sharp major, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
Like, you could argue for the existence of a coffee cult, centring on those places in tokyo that use amazing lab-equipment-lookin glass monstrosities to produce coffee or the perfect brewing and drinking temperature. But to the best of my knowledge there isn't that sort of culture around ramen -- there's just the usual sense of places that are better than others, places that are more expensive, places that are more 'authentic', places that are more experimental, etc etc etc.
― c sharp major, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
* coffee at the perfect, etc