DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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duly noted

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

evil, tho

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

i was disappointed when someone bought me a starbucks coffee at how notably shit it was, like i would prefer to just be ehhh about them and assume their customers just go for convenience and predictability but honestly

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

workfare is a piece of shit and i'd be surprised at its continued existence if the great british public weren't fucking swine

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=16

almost parodic inversion of 'the dignity of labour'

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

sin e an rud nua over here as well. Sucks.

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

somewhere between Keynesianism and the gulags

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

i support Tim Martin's "everybody gets pissed" approach to wealth creation

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

Boycott Workfare do an excellent job of highlighting both the participating employers (when they picketed a bunch of Superdrug branches, Superdrug tried to say they were 'scaring the staff', pathetic 'is it suitable for my servant to read?' bullshit) and the way fitness for work tests will have the sick and disabled working in exchange for their benefits for a potentially unlimited amount of time. Definitely worth a like or a bookmark or a follow.

My own personal favourite irony (and one I've never seen pointed out) is that the MPs who decry the Sky dishes of the undeserving poor the most are the most likely (and accomodating) political slaves of Rupert Murdoch.

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

6,242 people put their religion down as Heavy Metal in the census
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2012/dec/11/census-data-released-live-coverage?intcmp=122

piscesx, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Hey everyone! The Conservative Party would like to know what you think about benefit reforms:

http://www.conservatives.com/Get_involved/Benefits_HaveYourSay

Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

"Do you think it’s fair that people can claim more in benefits that the average family earns through going to work?"

... nice one

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking hell - 'Queen Elizabeth Land'?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20757382

insert witticism here (hypehat), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

... cold, frosty and unwelcoming

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

... distant and dangerous

Tim, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

...full of smelly, formally-dressed waddling things?

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

... disputed by several nations and at risk from rapid changes in climate

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

...currently being explored by Ranulph Fiennes

insert witticism here (hypehat), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

'Queen Elizabeth Land'

Build a few roller-coasters and the tourists will be queueing up round the block (of ice).

Black Rod, Jane, and Freddy (snoball), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

The 90-day consultation period before large-scale redundancies can take place is to be cut to 45 days, under government plans.

Employment Relations Minister Jo Swinson said the move was aimed at helping workers and businesses.

Suggest Banlieue (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

workers primarily tho

Suggest Banlieue (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tEvwV.jpg

Suggest Banlieue (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

Employment Relations Minister Jo Swinson said the move was aimed at helping workers and businesses.

Well done Jo, vote Lib Dem eh?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

My knee jerk response is there must be something bad about it cos tories, but as someone who's been made redundant twice I'm not sure why this is bad? I hated the long consultation periods, fuck 90 days of uncertainty looming over you, just get it fucking over with, give me my redundancy pay and I'll be off to something else.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'd go with your knees on this one

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

With your knees or on your knees, it's a' one to yer Tories

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

90 days > 45 days because a) more money from the company, b) more time to find something else, c) gives enough time for unions to negotiate.

That last one is important. Strike rules require 7 days' notice of ballot, 14 days for voting, then 7 days' notice of strike. With 45 days of total consultation time that doesn't leave a lot of room to try and find a negotiated settlement. Unions would have to try and go from 0 to strike ballot as soon as redundancies are announced, and not many places are that militant.

stet, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

I guess a) is somewhat understandable, but I don't get b). I read that as a complaint somewhere else. Is it normal to start looking for a new job when you might be laid off in 90 days? Seems like any prospective employers wouldn't look on that very favourably.

Didn't think of c) cos not like there's any union I could join so negotiation's never been an option.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

Prospective employers don't need to know that you're looking because you're being made redundant. Concern about the viability of your current employer is a reasonable reason to want to leave a company, anyway.

Also, the guideline for finding a new gig is 30 days searching for every 10k salary you want to earn, so 45 days isn't enough time to find a job > 15k (yes, that's what redundancy pay is for, but it's easiest to find work if you're currently employed).

stet, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

Seems like every job I went for wanted someone to start ASAP and wouldn't wait 90 days but ymmv.

Anyway, your point c) covers why the tories are in favour of this. Anything to get one over on the unions.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

the guideline for finding a new gig is 30 days searching for every 10k salary you want to earn

what the shit

ledge, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

That's the average, apparently. Seems about right in my limited experience.

stet, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Actually it was misleading when I said "searching" - time included in interviews is included.

stet, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

I've never heard this before, but it clicks with my brother going for some megajob, and he's been being interviewed since September ferxsakes.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

It sounds about what I'd expect, in this climate at least.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

theo walcott is about to face fifty years wandering the desert

Suggest Banlieue (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/21/david-davies-gay-marriage-interview

oh my god

OH MY GOD

everything about this interview is a TREAT

lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

where do i even start c/ping

why is he so fixated on erasure

lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe all this is a long-game PUA 'negging' strategy so Davies can get a date with the bloke from Erasure.

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Or more likely: homophobe can't explain why he's homophobic.

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link

Now I've got Boy George's greatest hits, and I love it!

That's like the homophobe's equivalent of a racist claiming that they can't be racist because they own a copy of Whitney Houston's greatest hits.

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

That interview is 100% Peter Mannion. The interview works even better if you imagine Roger Allam saying that stuff.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:59 (eleven years ago) link

come on, Erasure were great

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

no they weren't, they were terrible. that quote is absolutely amazing though.

jed_, Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Erasure are completely still going you utter bastards.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

i was joking, jed is crazy talking

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

erasure are awesome

You're gonna need a fruit kebab. Trust. (stevie), Saturday, 22 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

"Gonna be a Tory Hero...
gonna wreck some. lives. to-day!
"

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link


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