what if we started w/ 6 first sets and just added chronologically?
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
everyone getting the same pack type every week works fine though yeah. just don't throw in a set like champions of kamigawa that has a lot of mechanics that don't do anything outside of that block.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
for chronological i would consider starting at mirage since that was the first set that was designed for limited play, everything before that is kind of miserable to work with in limited. though maybe thats what you want
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
though that would mean our additional packs each week would be from masques block which is super underpowered and wouldn't help much. hmmm
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
err wait they'd be from urza block nevermind. that seems okay as an option
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
but if we start w/ alpha somebody gets a mox or something
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
lamp i meant irl, i have everything on mtgo
oh :(. i have the deck mostly built in paper magic (for some reason the only copies i have of past in flames are two foils) but i havent been that impressed w/ it. feel like it folds too easy to stuff people are already playing but i also might just be bad at playing it. its funny that rites decks/midrange goodstuff decks have been doing so well in premier events after i took mine apart tho :/
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
what if we did alpha -> ice age
i'm fine w/ starting from alpha but our decks are going to be horrifically bad. might be entertaining though, let's try it
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
those packs make for terrible limited play, is the thing
also sorry to distract from yr planning but once winter break starts all my magic time will be devoted to cube and the MOCS sealeds
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I meant we skip from alpha to ice age
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
so it'd be like
alphaice agealliancesmiragevisionsweatherlight
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
haha you should throw in coldsnap (don't actually do this)
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
wait what are the MOCS sealeds i thought MOCS was over until january
every time i actively try to qualify for MOCS i go on an insane losing streak and end up with 12 or 13 points on the last day and give up
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
there are two last chance sealed events on the 22nd and the 29th that im qualified for before the championship or w/e its called next year
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
oh i thought those were public, are they invite-only? i was gonna play the 22nd one
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/TCZ5C.gif
this is what the draft pool would look like
playable? sorry its sloppy I did this in 3 mins on paint
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
its playable sure
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
feel like stormbind would be in that deck 10 weeks later
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
stormbind is an old favorite of mine
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
i think my favorite deck i've ever drafted was a 5-color green deck in time spiral block that had stormbind and 2 of the dragon legends
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea it was reprinted!
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
are we talkin about doing this on MTGO or something else? man I come from the old days of Netdraft, I dunno what's out there now.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
cockatrice. it's free.
I'd just pull up packs like I did and put up all the info once a week. everything would go in a google docs and the card pools would be public.
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
I played netdraft too tho!
― iatee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was mistaken i forgot that its the poty on the 15th i had qualified for which i doubt ill play. the two lcq sealed events are 30 tickets and open to everyone
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
drafting after a company event w/ open bar. will be interesting.
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
that sentence would look a lot different without autocorrect
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe we could rotate the choice of pack between the players, so each week we're all opening a pack of a set that one of us thinks is cool (or feels gives them some minute tactical advantage, according to taste)?
Is the right starting size definitely 6 packs? One thing I've really enjoyed about starting from a super tiny pool is the way guys like my pack one Pierce Strider have been through a real narrative but idk if more experienced players feel like that's just being silly.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
drafting while wasted was a grand success, got two shocks and a deathrite in my prize packs
I think the prob w/ starting w/ fewer than 6 is that you can only play so many 2-3 pack sealed games w/ the same cards before it gets boring
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
think i just had an opponent stroke out vs. my double Slime Molding/quad Rootborn Defenses deck, literally every card I played was followed by a tirade (though I also had Collective Blessing, Pallisade Giant, and Martial Law)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, quad Defenses, what an annoying experience that would have been to play against.
I'd be down for some kind of ILX sealed league, I haven't gotten to play since October. If we're using older sets, would not recommend starting with less than 6 packs. Alpha has an average of like 5 playable cards per pack...
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
it's like 1/3 totally unplayable, 1/3 okay, 1/3 broken
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
maybe less than that broken but still tons, I was opening up sample packs for fun / to see
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
Word of advice, don't draft anything before Mirage block. I know drafting with early sets seems like such a cool idea but it's a lot like reject rare draft but only half the fun. Early Magic is full of really weird conditional spells and underpowered creatures. I remember Netdrafting a draft with Beta + the first four expansions and it was really awful. Also when Coldsnap came out I remember doing a "full block" draft with Ice Age/Alliances/Coldsnap and you wound up basically being forced to use 11-12 of your Coldsnap picks because half your picks from the other sets were unplayable.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
well we were gonna do sealed and would be getting progressively more packs over time. the cardpool.jpg upthread seems playable?
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
I just tried "opening" a few sample Alpha boosters online, it's a little bit better than I remember, although in pack 3 the best card was Hill Giant haha. I think the site I used took out the basic lands - didn't Alpha have a few basic lands in each pack that replaced commons? Certainly helps the quality of the packs to remove those.
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes the lands replaced rares! One of the quirks of early Magic is that Richard Garfield didn't want players knowing which cards were which rarity so they decided to make some rareless packs to confuse those who thought they had figured it out.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
sample alpha packs best cards:
1. white knight, lightning bolt 2. scrubland, rod of ruin, serra angel, sengir vampire, fireball, dark ritual3. shivan, demonic tutor, invisibility, disintegrate, howl from beyond4. terror, fireball, invisibility, disintegrate5. wheel of fortune black vise, disintegrate
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
where are you doing this?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
draft.bestiaire.org/
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
alright so I got1. me2. gravel3. cider4. lamp5. frog6. vinnie
can we get two more? are there even two more regulars itt? moodles and...
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately, I think this may be a bit over my head. My knowledge of MTG doesn't extend back much past RTR.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
idk I don't think you need encyclopedic knowledge, just a willingness to work w/ random cards you pull
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
I guess we don't really need 8 cause its a rolling thing not a tournament tho I'd like to keep the same set of people cause of the process
also should we go chronologically or let everybody pick a set they like for the first pool
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
okay we are gonna go let everyone pick 1, I'm going w/ beta, gravel w/ rise-of-the-eldrazi. 4 spots open.
1. beta2. rise-of-the-eldrazi 3.4.5.6.
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
arabian nights!
― f (Lamp), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
haha I thought you were just trolling when you told me. okay:
1. beta2. rise-of-the-eldrazi 3. arabian nights4.5.6.
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
damn i was gonna pick rise of the eldrazi
if you want all 6 to be different i'll go with invasion instead
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
1. beta2. rise-of-the-eldrazi 3. arabian nights4. invasion5.6.
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link