― Tim, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Jones, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The current situation with the Unions is interesting. I think they see a chance for one last stand against a government which has sought to shackle them as effectively as the Tories did. Could be trouble on the way for Tone.
― Dr. C, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I won't contest the inflation figures (though, if memory serves, it was coming down in 78-79), but are you *sure* unemployment was lower in '97 than in '79? Those "Labour Isn't Working" Saatchi ads in the winter of '78 were provoked by the (shock, horror) dole figures reaching 1 million; within three years the Tories had tripled that. Yes, it had been steadily falling since the early 90s (?), but I'm not sure it was down to Callaghan levels when Major lost the election.
I believe this is what they call killing two birds with one stone.
― Trevor, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mark Morris, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Who's the other bird, Geri Halliwell?
― Dan Perry, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Actually you can scratch some of what I said upthread because my rage at Blair's description of anyone who opposes the involvement of the private sector in public services as "small-c conservative" reminds me of the extent to which the worst excesses of Thatcherite economic theories have poisoned political debate in this country and shifted it all to the right, and of course there are all the malign factors Gareth mentions. But the "freedoms" I had in mind were those brought about by media deregulation, easier access to music and culture from all origins, crumbling of the "island race" mentality etc., and while of course a lot of this is global and related to technological changes that are beyond political control, I do get the feeling that a more statist and less deregulatory government might have made it harder to access these things and tried harder to batten down the hatches and enforce national boundaries. We're back to the paradox again ... a nasty, petty, small-minded little Englander like Mrs T actually strengthening the collapse of that mindset, mainly because her economic theories were more 19th-century Liberal than 1950s Tory. *This* is the thing that fascinates me about her from an ambivalent perspective: I still hate her effects in terms of social polarisation, creation of the "permanent underclass", wreckage of public services etc. as passionately as I always did.
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N., Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
forget where i read it, but anyway, a transcription of a TV debate between roy hattersley and enoch powell powell says something breath-takingly reactionary. "oh come on, enoch, we're not still living in the 19th century!!" "Oh yessss," hisses Powell, the brummy gollum, "but we aaaaaaare!!"
OK, well now we aren't. Now we're living in 1909.
― mark s, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
[consults book....]
NOTHING HAPPENED IN 1909.
― Terry Shannon, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
this is bush. really: administrating *what*? already you're confronted with the need to theorize what a government *does*. obviously thatcher cleaved to liberal economic orthodoxy, but in terms of character she was far closer to disraeli's popular jingoistic toryism. not that the analogy really works because no victorian politician would have contemplated the level of public spending (and taxation) that has been the norm since ww1.
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 30 January 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 30 January 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link
according to the thing about drinking politicians on bbc4 last night, thatch can put 'em away with the best of them...
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
My god I want to schtup the chick playing Thatcher on C4 right now.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
*BBC4
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00345/culture-andrea385_345570a.jpg
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
in character? it would be some sort of ultimate hatefuck
― Just got offed, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
MAYBE THEY COULD USE THE STATUE AS A GIANT ANT -- Mike Hanle y, Sunday, February 3, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link
LOL as always.
― Eisbaer, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
: /
― Bodrick III, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
-- The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics
-- Just got offed
I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.
― King Boy Pato, Friday, 13 June 2008 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link
So, was this produced by The Comic Strip as a follow-up to "Strike" and "GLC"?
It Sure Looks Like It.
(did not watch. I mean! ComeOn!
― Mark G, Friday, 13 June 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
So, was this produced by The Comic Strip as a follow-up to "Strike" and "GLC"
eh? really?! i'm amazed anyone can even remember 'GLC'.
― piscesx, Friday, 13 June 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link
What is it with the BBC? Is this the best their drama department can come up with these days? Hughie Green, Bob Monkhouse, Mary Whitehouse, Margaret Thatcher. Lazy television.
― Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link
But cheap.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
And it gets them a guaranteed two page spread in the broadsheet "extra" sections for each episode
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
it's not lazy television, it's just that you're getting old. The BBC have always made dramas about the lives of people in the past, it's just now the people of the past are people who were very much part of our present.
― Grandpont Genie, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't agree, this smacks of chucking a couple of biographies at a writer and saying "Go away and write something on this person who was famous once, but don't worry too much about it, any old bollocks will do as long as you manage to shoehorn some sex into it." It's commissioned crap from writers who obv. don't have any interest in the subject.
― Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Unless there are many young and talented writers out there with a burning desire to write about Hughie Green's sexlife, who knows?
― Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Tom OTM, five years ago it was all "lol let's do a comedy drama about something that happened in Parliament 6 months ago" now it's all "lol 50s and 60s nostalgia be mad popular".
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link
you can avoid worrying about this by getting rid of yer telly.
― Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I only use it for films, sport, Doctor Who and University Challenge.
But you're not seriously doing the "people who complain about one aspect of a medium should never engage with any aspect of that medium" switcheroonie are you Pash?
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Bit drastic Pash
― Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Also I would also like to use it for well-written original one-off drama but unfortunately the BBC is run by cocks.
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Apparently at one time this stuff was well popular but it doesn't fit so well around BBC3's RITALIN NEWS MINUTE, ALL EPILEPSY ALL THE TIME
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I know these biodocs are usually on BBC4 but fuck knows why, really.
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Should probably have a poll on which former Carry On team regular is due next.
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Would consider watching The Bernard Bresslaw Story is they got Will Self in to play him.
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Thatcher worse than Moyles but that's not really saying much in Moyles' defence.
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
clear as glass, surrounded by hot air
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry, what am I doing? I appear to have got involved in a debate on the internet about which racist is worse than the other.
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Jon Snow used to call a colleague 'Gunga Din'
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
FFS, Clarkson/Snow/etc., stop apologising/repenting. Anne Boleyn was guillotined, deal with it.
― Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
poll
― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Lord Foulkes "It is an absolute outrage of the worst kind. Disabled people will be up in arms about it, Scottish people will be angry – and it should concern all of us that the prime minister has been accused of lying."
ah see i was with him until that final bit (hey dude remember that little bit of trouble in Iraq a few years back?)
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't Clarkson have a go at someone who accused him of cottaging or something? Can dish it it out, can't...etc. Also the man is an outrageous liar.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Proved by science.
I think the One Show should replace Adrain Chiles with Hardeep Singh Kohli, coz he's a much nicer bloke.
― jel --, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
nah he's annoying
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
racist
― jel --, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
twice in one day?? what are the chances
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I used to like HSK in that sitcom based in Glasgow(?) but when he was on celebrity apprentice (i think it was) he was tremendously annoying.
xpObviously this apology is completely meaningless. He meant precisely what he said. His fans will know that he apologised with a twinkle in his eye, and probably agree with him anyway, he gets a shitload of publicity for his crappy tv programme and the bbc ratings go up. Everyone wins.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Also a bit of Rachman...http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2320099.0.Comedian_Singh_Kohlis_rented_Glasgow_flats_grubby_and_dirty.php
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
The Hardeep geezer is, indeed, annoying. He is not totally without wit, but his superior tone is bad.
― the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently The One Show had it's second best ever ratings yesterday
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I like that programme where he patronises kids. That's about his level.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Singh that is not Chiles.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Adrian Chiles is just awful, I hate his miserabilist everyman act.
― jel --, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
According to insiders, Thatcher – who won ITV1 reality series I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! in 2005 – was chatting with The One Show host Adrian Chiles and guest Jo Brand about the Australian Open when she described an unnamed player as a "golliwog".
It is thought she was referring to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga of France, who went out of the competition in the quarter finals.
Apparently it has not been mentioned here, but it is now (in many quarters) believed she was actually talking about Gael Monfils of France, who went out of the competition in the 8th finals. No less a stupid & offensive thing to say obv, if this is the case, but a bit more ahem "understandable" in the "but Ronaldinho HAS large teeth" vein.
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, those dolls at Sandringham looked like..http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/06/05/zzMonfils_narrowweb__300x422,0.jpg
...?
― Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link
..right?
― Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Adrian Chiles is one of the few TV presenters I would happily leave my children with for the day. If I had children, that is.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link
myleene Klass? Although she seems quite busy...
― Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd leave my kids with her alright.
― special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link
What does that even mean?
― NotEnough, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
NotEnough knowledge of vulgar slang, morelike
― am I selling cardamom or am I selling thyme (DJ Mencap), Monday, 9 February 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, those dolls at Sandringham looked like.....?..right?
Awp. Should probably not have said anything but.... what first took me aback with CT's original remark (APART FROM THE OBV)
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link
oops tab enter
Awp. Should probably not have said anything but.... what first took me aback with CT's original remark (APART FROM THE OBV) was that apart from CT not yet having entered the post-colonial age apparently -- -- -- Tsonga? Wtf. It seems way unlikely. Dude is a BLOCK of a man, not at all ragdolly! Gael Force at least has spiky comicbook hair. Hence I found that story more credible.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Sprinter Dwain Chambers is to make a formal complaint to the BBC after he was the victim of an abusive prank call by the comedian Iain Lee during a phone-in on Radio 5 Live. Lee, who appears regularly on BBC1's One Show, rang a phone-in hosted by Victoria Derbyshire on Monday and, posing as a member of the public called 'Tony', accused Chambers, who served a two-year ban for taking performance-enhancing drugs, of being "whacked up to the eyeballs on goof balls".Encouraged by Derbyshire to air his strident views, 'Tony' then subjected the sprinter to a vitriolic rant, referring to the "goof balls and whack balls" he put into his bloodstream and finishing with the statement: "I'm going to buy your book and I'm going to burn your book without reading it."
Encouraged by Derbyshire to air his strident views, 'Tony' then subjected the sprinter to a vitriolic rant, referring to the "goof balls and whack balls" he put into his bloodstream and finishing with the statement: "I'm going to buy your book and I'm going to burn your book without reading it."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/4582698/Dwain-Chambers-demands-BBC-apology-over-prank-call.html
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I do wonder on whose side the Daily Mail crew will be on that last one. Will they be able to pass up another chance to have a go at the Beeb's lax standards, or will they want to go for the throat of a notorious drug cheat who possesses the wrong colour of skin for their tastes?
That's what you'd call a real ethical dilemma for them. It would almost be entertaining to watch them wrestle with it.
― Stone Monkey, Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
fucking hell iain lee is a massive prick and really needs to bury himself alive out of shame.why this prickhole is on the one show i dont know.
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
GHOSTBUSTERS 2 LOL
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, iain lee is a dude who doesn't really need to exist
― Bonkers candy, the Nabisco candy (stevie), Saturday, 14 February 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Never mind that the tactics they used to destroy The One Show’s reporter Carol Thatcher were reminiscent of the old East German Stasi, under whose rule people who refused to do and say what they were told were destroyed.
Brilliance, just absolute brilliance.
― The Loneliness of the Middle Order Batsman (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 15 February 2009 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link
marcello has a column in a tabloid now?
― Bonkers candy, the Nabisco candy (stevie), Sunday, 15 February 2009 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
An administrative blunder under the Thatcher government that has only just come to light has opened the door for retailers to sell unauthorised DVDs and video games, including banned films and pornography, to anyone, including under-age children without legal threat.The Crown Prosecution Service has been told to drop cases relating to offences under the Video Recordings Act, which imposes statutory requirements for videos, DVDs and some video games to be classified and age-rated by the British Board of Film Classification.The Conservative government’s apparent failure to notify the European Union of the existence of the VRA in 1984 means that the legislation is no longer enforceable in the UK.
The Crown Prosecution Service has been told to drop cases relating to offences under the Video Recordings Act, which imposes statutory requirements for videos, DVDs and some video games to be classified and age-rated by the British Board of Film Classification.
The Conservative government’s apparent failure to notify the European Union of the existence of the VRA in 1984 means that the legislation is no longer enforceable in the UK.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 24 August 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
UK now officially better than US
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
shit I'd better get a shopping list together for you guys
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
it's there already, it just has big fuck-off circles covering everything, or so i'm led to believe.
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
We already have a perfectly workable system in place whereby 7 year-olds just tell their parents to buy GTA for them in Gamestation.
― Someone left the cape out in the rain (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 August 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
and wait ouside, smoking a fag
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh dear:
"This must be a massive embarrassment to the Tories, especially as David Cameron was the special adviser to the home secretary in 1993 when the law was amended."
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, can't wait to hit Dixons or Woolworths and stock up on some banned VHS tapes now.
― JTS, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah right. Because Cameron has shown real signs of being electorally hindered by everything the Tories did in the 80s and 90s.
― Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Still not dead?
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link