THE WORST SINGLES OF THE 90s

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Donut Bitch's list is OTM, apart from Wishing Well, which was 80's and grebt, and the Farm selection. Groovy Train might be arse on a plate, but All Together Now is double arse on two plates.

RickyT (RickyT), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

WHERE THE FUCK IS MOBY?!!

Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Of course now "What's Up" sounds great in all its forms because Pink is singing it. Her last two singles are worse versions of the same.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

42. michael jackson “black or white”

HAHAHAHA! So many of these songs are grebt. You are all on crack.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"WHERE THE FUCK IS MOBY?!!

But Keith, most of Moby's nineties stuff is fine - the metal stuff I'm not sure about but it is surely to negligable to count.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is more fun than the list itself is wondering whether there is any song on this list that NO ONE on ILE will stick up for.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

AND THERE IS NO SLEEPER OR GREAT ESCAPE BLUR STUFF YOU ARE ALL MENTALISTS!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

AND THERE IS NO MENSWEAR OR NORTHSIDE OR UB40 OR 2 UNLIMITED OR...

It's all blandly inoffensive Radio Rock, mostly, but hardly anything I would run from the room to avoid. This is what happens when you get Yanks to tell you what they hate. Where are all those really shit records that came out of Europe and Britain in the 90s, eh... EH?!!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like a fair percentage of those singles.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

and where the hell are basemnet jaxx?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

You also missed out Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" or whatever it was called.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

1. 4 non blondes “what’s up?”
Eeeek! Thanks a lot, guys.

2. red hot chilli peppers “under the bridge”
Really? Number 2? It's not that bad, is it?

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”
Good pick here. This song should be buried somewhere in a Nevada desert.

8. smashing pumpkins “tonight tonight”
? Surely they've put out worse?

11. rem, “radio song”
Yes, you should have put "Everybody Hurts" on there, too. Though this one sucks pretty bad as well...Did they really release it as a single?

14. spin doctors “two princes”
Another good pick. Awful.

15. bryan adams “everything I do (I do it for you)”
However, really EXCELLENT for comic relief, if you start spontaneously singing the chorus if you do someone a favor and they say "Thank you".

16. joan osborne “one of us”
Would almost certainly be in my the Top 5, for me.

17. alanis morrisette “ironic”
Overwrought, but I dislike "One Hand in My Pocket" more.

19. cranberries “zombie”
My father inexplicably LOVES this song. I mean LOVES it. He doesn't like anything else by them, just this song.

42. michael jackson “black or white”
Brings back chilling memories of McKauley Culkin...

46. genesis “I can’t dance”
Should be MUCH higher up on this list. Another Top 5'er.

57. counting crowes “round here”
Mr. Jones

65. toad the wet sprocket “all I want”
Nah. Harmless. I say substitute this with that "dance on the ocean" or "walk on the ocean" (or whatever the hell it was) song.

Good list, Tom and Jess!

Others:

As suggested previously, Dead Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" has GOT to be on this list, and way, way up. Sheryl Crow's "If It Makes You Happy". Bryan Adams' "Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman" might be a strong contender as well.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" is terrible, but it isn't from the 90s.

one that really should be there: "Both Sides Of The Story" by Phil Collins. or was he just not worth hating by that time?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

eurocrap: blur - charmless man

did smashmouth release anything in the 90s? 'walking on the sun' should be included if eligable

and is 'keep em seperated' really worse than 'pretty fly for a white guy'?

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Other ones I'd consider: "My Sister" Juliana Hatfield, "Hey Jealousy" by erm...who did that one? Blanking on the name. How about "It's a Shame about Ray" by The Lemonheads? "Good Stuff" by the B-52s (or was that still in the 80s)? And there must be something out there by They Might Be Giants and Soul Asylum that fits this list.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey jealousy = gin blossoms but it's not top 100 bad

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oops. Robin's right.

This is from a BJ discography: Storm Front and the first single, We Didn't Start The Fire, reached the #1 spots simultaneously on the Billboard album and singles charts on December 16, 1989. My Billboard book says it stayed #1 for a total of two weeks. So while it was still a hit during the first flush weeks of the '90's, it peaked before 1990. Hence, I would say: NOT a '90's record.

Oh god, yes, the Juliana Hatfield one.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is there a reason Dodgy "Staying Out For The Summer" wasn't chosen?

"Champagne Supernova" wasn't a single, but I guess it might as well have been. But given my horrid housemates obsession with it I'll let that pass.

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Shamen? ("Phorever People", "Ebeneezer Goode")
No Smart-E's? ("Sesame's Treet")
No Stone Temple Pilots? (Um, I don't remember the names of any of their singles. "Big Bang Baby"? "Sour Girl"? "Creep"? Are those right?)

Tracks that I'm not sure came out in the 90s:

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”
31. digable planets “rebirth of slick”
39. color me badd “I adore mi amore”
74. vanessa williams “save the best for last”
82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit”

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Adamski - Killer

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was a single i can even remember the huge video with the girls dancing argh

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like way too muhc songs on that list, but again i have no taste

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

IT'S THE MOST HILARIOUSLY AWFUL LIST I'VE EVER SEEN. BAD, BAD CHOICES THROUGHOUT. IF THAT'S THE WORST SINGLES OF THE 90'S I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO READ WHAT YOU THOUGHT WERE THE BEST. BIZARRE!!! NO, I WON'T STOP SHOUTING.....

Mckenzie (Mckenzie), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

jamie walters 'how do you talk to an angle'

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

According to Billboard:

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire” - 1989
31. digable planets “rebirth of slick” - 1993
39. color me badd “I adore mi amore” - 1991
74. vanessa williams “save the best for last” - 1992
82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit” - 1991

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

angle = angel

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

pity, cz i wz going to say "very obliquely" ahahaha

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

You talk to an angle in the right way. And don't be obtuse. *dodges hurled brickbats once again*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom's [I think] top 100 singles of the nineties

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr E's Beautiful Blues, released Feb 14th 2000, though they might have started playing it just before Christmas.

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

that list is so indie.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

meaning the top 100 list, of course.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I'll gladly write about some of these, BTW.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

More Life In A Tramp's Vest
Happy Shopper
Alright (Cast version)
The Circle
She's In Fashion (except I've an eerie feeling that was 2000)
Swallowed
Where I Find My Heaven
You Stole The Sun From My Heart (again, was this 2000?)
(How Does It Feel To Be) On Top Of The World
Don't Come Home Too Soon
South Of The Border
I've Got Something To Say
Good Enough
All-Star

Is 14.

Graham - by Dodgy's standards, Staying Out For The Summer isn't that bad...

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and I might write about one of them as well, if you want. Except looking at that list, I quite like a few of them.

Under The Bridge, though...

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jess: I am very glad you've run with the "21st Century Digital Boy" suggestion.

Ned: "Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century -- a shallow ploy to try and replicate the commercial success of "Disarm," except in place of that single's boringly ominous vibe they brought in the flattest, most rudimentary string section possible and everyone just pumped and pumped and strained to find some emotion in a very, very dull song. Corgan's labored bleating over the top does not help -- he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried in labor.

Ones I like / don't mind so much: "Radio Song" (please replace with "Everybody Hurts," which even as an REM-friendly type I cringed at), "Two Princes" (it seems wrong for Spin Doctors to be the whipping-boys of the 90s when they generally just seemed like a casual bar-band that lucked into a chart single: I don't even think they thought they were cool), "Rebirth of Slick," "Djed" (this is a list of pop singles; shoehorning the 20-minute album track "Djed" in there seems like a really lame way to pick on post-rock, plus ruins the logic of the thing, because if album tracks count I guarantee you there are things on let's say Lou Bega's record that are a million times worse than "Mambo #5") ... (replace "Everything About You," which was at least sort of amusing, with UKJ's "Cat's in the Cradle" cover). "More than Words" I absolutely hate but I feel like there's something remarkable about having written the anthem to every American high-school asshole pressuring his girlfriend to put out, and I think I might like to write about that. (Funnily enough I am already writing something for something else about Silk's "Freak Me," the only song in history that makes me physically ill when I hear it.) "Cantaloop" ain't so offensive (though "Mr. Wendel" is, it seems like something Mr. Lif would have written when he was younger and even hokier). "Sex and Candy" I didn't mind, and file with Spin Doctors -- such a brief flash of an inoffensive throwaway single that it seems rude to hate it. Thank you for remembering the shit that was the Toadies; and yeah, I too unsurprisingly like "Buddy Holly."

Things I seem to recall really sucking: that Cake "how do you afford your rock and roll lifestyle" song, the Fleetwood Mac comeback release (if that can count), Sublime's "What I Got" or the even more dire one that came after it, something or other about Superman by some horrible Canadian alt-rock band or other (Our Lady Peace?), John Secada, "These are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs, BLACK CROWES ...

Also please note that maybe contrary to your intentions this looks like a list that was written by people who listen to mostly alt-rock and just don't like the examples of it that chart.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century

Let's just say I violently disagree and leave it at that. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree with Ned in the violently disagreeing stakes!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think this list can't decide whether it wants to be a cartography of the despised middlebrow or the work of ph34rsomely iconoclastic despewados.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I kind of disown the the Top 100 singles list, actually - which is why it's not linked to on FT any more. It was compiled and written when I was suffering from depression and needed something - in this case writing 250 or so words an evening - to give myself a structure and pull me out of it. It worked very well but I don't really recognise the person who put it together now. (Though I still love about half the songs and like almost all of them).

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

The reason for the split list personality is that it was done by lots of people with no consultation in vastly differing states of sobriety. Tempting though it is to look for ulterior motives there wasn't any overarching principle I don't think, other than listing records that came out in the 1990s and were awful. I didn't even think the list would be made public.

That said I stand by my choices, which I do think are all very bad records and really got under my skin and annoyed me (in a way that even awful pop usually doesn't - something about the typical forcefulness of the rock delivery maybe?).

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Jeremy", "Two Princes", and "Zombie" are all the most tolerable songs by bands I dislike. I don't get the purpose of making this list. These songs all seem either like perfectly adequate ballads (mostly) from their genre for the time or else obviously not to my liking but not worth getting worked up over - I haven't had to hear "I Will Always Love You" in 8 years or so and I don't listen to any divas of that sort so who cares what I think? It is totally beyond me why something like "Black Hole Sun" would be one of the worst singles of the 90s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

The purpose originally was for Jess and I to amuse each other on IM by naming terrible singles - nothing more or less.

"Black Hole Sun" if it's in there because of me is in there because the video is so bad.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

the really bad stuff that does chart is also quickly forgotten. as in 'erased from memory'. so its a tough one to list.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, it's kind of pointless to try to figure out who chose what, as at least 50 of the tracks were me and tom pissed out of our minds on IM saying "blah blah song title" & "MY GOD HOW AWFUL IS THAT", followed by me actually compiling the IM chat (as per tom's request, but sorry if you didn't want me to post it...heh, or at least identify you with it.) maura, fred, ned and mitch's additions (as well as josh and nitsuh and felicity and some others i'm probably forgetting) were all done non-drunk (as far as i know.) the list is predominantly american because a. everyone else but tom is an american and b. america produced the worst music of the 90s (sorry, we just make more period, so it's law of scale.) (tom and i also discovered that night that rock was the worst music ever, complete with hilarious scenario of uh ? the mysterians or whoever coming to our near and horrible future and looking at what they had wrought.)

ethan got on my dick last night that the list was too obvious and middlebrow, but fuck it, that's what WAS so horrible about the 90s: the creeping evil of banality and all that...(also, ethan has lost any ability at aesthetic reflection in the last 12 months.) part of the point of making lists like this, however, is a. wallowing in yr own "misery" and b. attempting to rile people (as ethan and 50% of the posters to this thread have proved out.) it was also a lot f fun. what's the point of doing anything then, especially posting a reply to a thread about it?

(or, what tom said as i was posting.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

No ATB? No Meredith Brooks? I'd mention Alicia's Attic, but someone on here is bound to stick up for them, or Ind*pendent Love Song, but for some reason I still feel guilty after that woman googled herself (and I hadn't even got round to spewing my bile over the thread in question by then).

I will not bother listing the indie entries which I consider lacklustre and plodding but not actually BAD because I know nobody involved will ever agree, but I must disagree with the first two lines of Dan's suggestions, too. I wouldn't be that offended if Smart Es got in, but really, is there any complaint that could be levelled at it that wouldn't be much more fairly aimed at, I don't know, Poing?

(I'd even stick up for the original Poing if I had to, but whoever decided it needed a 1999 trancebag makeover needs a slap.)

Rebecca, hunting for flame-proof jacket (reb), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

one that really should be there: "Both Sides Of The Story" by Phil Collins. or was he just not worth hating by that time?

Certainly "Both Sides of the Story" as well as "Another Day in Paradise" are both vomit-inducing. Was "The Living Years" by Mike and the Mechanics in the 1990s? Something's telling me it was in the 80s, as well as "Wild Wild West" by The Escape Club. If not, they are all viable candidates for inclusion.

How about "Deeper Shade of Soul" by Urban Dance Squad? I have kind of a love/hate thing with that one...or "Life Is a Highway" by Tom Cochrane? Eh, I guess it isn't Top 100 bad.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The Living Years" was 80s, but the Mechanics' "Word of Mouth" was 90s, and that's unspeakable.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

jess, you're welcome for the help.

felicity (felicity), Saturday, 2 November 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

* Public Enemy "911 is a Joke"

DB, please tell me you not serious!! The video rules!!!!

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

What about the Wedding Present as they neared the end of their "hit parade" experiment (and running out of inspiration/money)? They could pretty much release anything at that stage and it would be a Top 40 hit, with something like "Shaft", or the theme from "Twin Peaks" on the B Side.

JTS, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait Dom you don't like the Magnetic Fields? I thought you were all about lame indie shit like that?

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Why be guilty of music you used to like?

even if it was Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots?

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not embarrassed to have liked Pearl Jam. Infact i still like those records. Always hated Stone Temple Pilots(apart from that 1 song that sounded like Redd Kross). ST always seem more liked on ILM than PJ for some reason.

Or are you admitting you like Pearl Jam and STP and feel guilty?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the latter

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i think i just picked completely the wrong year to get into US rock but it coiuldn't really be helped

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait Dom you don't like the Magnetic Fields? I thought you were all about lame indie shit like that?

-- Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I like pussy indie shit, not lame indie shit.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 30 March 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Ahh blueski I think you're a (good?)few years younger than I am so im sure you can be excused for liking that stuff in your early teens. I liked U2 at that age. And i've no guilt, even though I've hated their last few albums with a passion.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Was the sweetest thing a 90s single? if so that's one of the worst(of any decade)

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

it was an 80s b-side and a 90s a-side. go figure.

unless you're talking about Refugee Camp Allstars 'The Sweetest Thing' which was pretty good (it's OK i know you're not)

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Worst use of breathy singing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link


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