I picture you in Michigan, but is that a true recollection or just a subconscious inference from your Michigany attitude?
― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
― martin andrew, Monday, 6 February 2006 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 6 February 2006 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
And what's the name of the place? They're all within a couple of blocks here -- I can go round and demand an apology for the mixup on your behalf.
― Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The place is Bakedeco.com, but that's okay - I'm happy now it's here.
Did you get to try out that knife sharpening thing? I'm still debating if I want to get that into it, or just continue to pay the pros.
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
You have to think a bit about angles and bevels when you use it, and take into consideration the bevel your knife already has, and it definitely takes an hour's commitment on a dull knife, but the instructions are helpful. It seems like using it without making the initial effort to understand the why of what you're doing might be frustrating or unsatisfying, but if you do that, home sharpening does seem to give a lot of control beyond what taking a knife to a sharpening service offers.
― Paul Eater (eater), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
― Paul Eater (eater), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think I want to get that technical with the knives. But I would like to see the video of the guy slicing paper the thin way!
― Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link
― Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― Jaq, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
― eater, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
I've decided to take the plunge and start sharpening my knives myself. I just ordered this system + special c-clamp - the reviews make it sound straightforward to use and that it gives a good edge.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
Today, my knives are SHARP!
― Jaq, Friday, 6 June 2008 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Nothing like a sharp knife. My steel and sharpener are perpetually at work so my home knives are in a terrible state. I am a poor show.
― Matt, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Just like the poor cobbler's kids never having any shoes :) Now that all mine are sharp, I'm starting to solicit them from family and friends, so I'm not tempted to just keep sharpening my own into nothing. Next you know, I'll have a stand set up down on the sidewalk, like my shoeshine guys.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i need to learn how to sharpen. we've got a water sharpener and a crazy expensive, apparently difficult to use japanese sharpening system, neither of which i can use. i'm taking a knife skills class in a couple of weeks, and i hope this is covered!
― lauren, Thursday, 12 June 2008 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be surprised if it wasn't. In fact I'd be bloody outraged.
― Matt, Thursday, 12 June 2008 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
i assure you that i'll cause a scene if it's not!
― lauren, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:33 (ten years ago) link
I'm coveting knives. I have one great knife and it's great. I love you so much, Only Good Knife I Own.
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:34 (ten years ago) link
Happiness is not having what you want, it's wanting what you have.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:39 (ten years ago) link
lauren how did the knife skills class go? i really need to learn how to sharpen, too.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 January 2009 12:45 (ten years ago) link
I gave up trying to sharpen the old-school way--broke down and bought a chef's choice dealie. It's pretty awesome, but not as awesome as sharpening on a stone like a true knife badass.
― quincie, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:40 (ten years ago) link
My dad stood around in the kitchen sharpening knives bcz he loved his wetstone so much. It was his dad's, though, so he wouldn't let us touch it, ever.
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:09 (ten years ago) link
http://home.woot.com/ has a really good deal on a knife dock today. I've been wanting one of these for awhile - a better way to corral the steak knives in the cutlery drawer as we don't have quite enough counter space for knife blocks.
― Jaq, Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:08 (seven years ago) link
Magnetic knife holder on a spare bit of wall space was one of my best investments.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 19:45 (seven years ago) link
If we are ever in a permanent space...
― Jaq, Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:04 (seven years ago) link
I've been thinking - even if I did have the wall space, I don't think I'd stick a dozen steak knives up on a magnetic strip. Chef knife, slicing knife, cleaver - yes. Do you keep your paring knife on it?
― Jaq, Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:03 (seven years ago) link
Yeah -- serrated bread knife, 3 chefs knives, 3 paring knives, no steak knives. I need a cleaver.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:25 (seven years ago) link
Jaq, you can get those magnetic holders with magnets on BOTH sides, they're just hard to find!! I have the wall screw-in kind now but I did find a link from the manufacturer at one point and emailed them asking why I couldn't find the double magnet ones--which affix v solidly to the side of a fridge, for instance. I think iirc they emailed me back and offered to take my order and then I never did anything about it.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:38 (seven years ago) link
I sort of love that the official description of this cleaver on Amazon includes "great for Halloween haunted houses".
― Jaq, Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:41 (seven years ago) link
Laurel, that sounds like a good idea - in our current kitchen though, I do all the knife work at a freestanding central butcher block. If we ever move again, etc etc.
― Jaq, Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:45 (seven years ago) link
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:50 (seven years ago) link
http://home.woot.com/ has a great deal on an 8" cleaver right now, $25+$5 shipping
― Jaq, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:27 (seven years ago) link
It's a woot-off though, so probably only there for 10 minutes.
knifebrag: i've only ever owned a single truly awesome knife in my life. a friend from school had a buddy that won the show forged and fired. this is the first kitchen knife he ever made and it was more or less to my specs. i got to watch him finish it, even after all the forging it was a pretty insane process that took a lot of skill and precision. think it's 7.5". the handle is made from Australian snakewood fwiw that has some beautiful detail. https://i.imgur.com/MribaRM.jpg
― lâche pas la patate (outdoor_miner), Friday, 13 July 2018 04:06 (one year ago) link
That looks beautiful. I really need a new knife. Going back to read this thread. I thought I wanted a Shun but I dunno now.
― Yerac, Friday, 13 July 2018 07:52 (one year ago) link
We bought knives from Kamata in Kappabashi last summer. It's the first time we've had excellent knives & it's been terrific.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 13 July 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link
I am eyeing the sani-tuff cutting board talked about above. The price is giving me pause but I don't really ever buy cutting boards for the amount that I cook.
― Yerac, Saturday, 21 July 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link
I will rep hard for my Sabatier carbon steel chef knife, although I think it's less the brand and more the carbon steel. I bake a lot of whole chickens, and the Sabatier makes spatchcocking really easy.
― ヽ（´ー｀）┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:30 (one year ago) link
I also have knives from Kamata, they hold a fiendish edge. I sliced the end off my thumb last time I sharpened mine on the stone rather than the steel. It healed ok, very clean cut.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 22 July 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link
I had decided on the MAC knife listed above but now it seems like because of the beveled edge the left handed person in the house won't be able to use it? Or I see that it can be sharpened into a symmetrical edge? I don't own any Japanese knives so this is all new to me.
― Yerac, Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link
That Sanituff board has lasted FOREVER btw. It is a monster. I have sanded down both sides at least twice. I also bought some smaller (and hella lighter) boards from Epicurean that are made of the same composite used for skate parks and they are also excellent.
― Jaq, Sunday, 22 July 2018 23:30 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I have used an epicurean board for the last 5 years (love it) but wanted something heftier You just use regular sandpaper for the sanituff board?
― Yerac, Monday, 23 July 2018 00:09 (one year ago) link
You can get Japanese knives with a double bevel, particularly the western style shapes. Putting a double bevel on a single bevel knife is not really possible, the back side is flat all the way up.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 23 July 2018 07:43 (one year ago) link
Yep, I use regular fine grit sandpaper and then extrafine emery cloth with a sanding block on the sani-tuff board.
― Jaq, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I that enso I ordered (it had an additional 20% off) supposedly is useful to use as a paring and utility knife while looking like a small kiriitsuke.
― Yerac, Saturday, 24 November 2018 20:57 (ten months ago) link
according to my knife/metal guru acquaintance (whose house in Paradise didn't burn!) this is what to get for actual sharpening: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004WFU7/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 he gave me a little demo once and seemed to like to push his knife away from himself in his sharpening motion, which i'd never seen anybody do before. he had some theory about why he thought sharpening was more effective that way.
― form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 24 November 2018 21:07 (ten months ago) link
bonus: it'll get you high
― gbx, Saturday, 24 November 2018 21:12 (ten months ago) link
oh, and aforementioned friend recommended using oil and not water or dry
― form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 24 November 2018 21:18 (ten months ago) link
I care for my knives with this guy; probably not going to spend the time learning to use stones in this lifetime
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 24 November 2018 23:05 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, I was watching a ton of videos on different sharpening stones, grits, methods. Some need to be water soaked, perma soaked, oiled, or splash and go. It's a whole thing.
― Yerac, Sunday, 25 November 2018 01:00 (ten months ago) link
'burrfection' was the youtube channel I was watching where he has tons of videos of different sharpening stones/methods, stropping methods and how to sharpen different types of knives. He's not a professional chef, I think he just became ocd about knives. But I like how he wings it a bit.
― Yerac, Sunday, 25 November 2018 01:03 (ten months ago) link
I have a diamond coated steel from ikea for day to day and a global 1000 grit stone for more serious sharpening. I can get a fierce edge with these, I’ve taken my knives in for sharpeneing I once or twice along the way.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:17 (ten months ago) link
i like 'burrfection,' he's got a lot of enthusiasm and his sang froid about destroying extremely nice knives is...bracing
i use a wusthof 800/2000 and it's fine, but i'd really like some proper japanese waterstones and a sink bridge
― gbx, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:48 (ten months ago) link
I was going to get something to hold the stone then realized that I could just use the sanituff board with towels and maybe a brick on top.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 11:50 (ten months ago) link
I am very into sharpening knives on the whetstone now. I think I have the touch.
― Yerac, Thursday, 21 February 2019 01:27 (seven months ago) link