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guys, Repugnantzel

― A B C, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

That Greenwald thing is marginally convincing until you start thinking about it. Was Limbaugh, as unreconstructed as he is, really "tickled" by Abu Ghraib? Does Ann Coulter really exude "the most exaggerated American feminine stereotypes"? That analysis is long on hyperbole and short on insight.

I think Ann Coulter's popularity is more easily explained by the simple fact that she fills an under-exploited niche in the punditry: the young(ish), attractive, sort-of-hip female conservative (the male version of Tucker Carlson, if you will - not that I find him attractive, but some do).

― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

That should have read "the female version of Tucker Carlson", obviously.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

her appeal is that she's a conventionally attractive woman who speaks in snarky soundbites, its not really any more complicated than that.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

see limbaugh frat pranx abu ghraib remarks

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not certain that's obvious at all.

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

That Greenwald thing is marginally convincing until you start thinking about it. Was Limbaugh, as unreconstructed as he is, really "tickled" by Abu Ghraib?

Did he ever make any statement indications that he wasn't?

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Downplaying Abu Ghraib is one thing - actively enjoying it, something else.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

dude he compared it to hilarious fun enjoyable frat pranx

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The "tickled by" phrase in the original essay links to this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/06/opinion/meyer/main616021.shtml

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i would say i've definitely heard conservatives 'actively enjoying' abu ghraib

― deej, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm talking about people having a good time, these people [CIA agents and MPs at Abu Ghraib], you ever heard of emotional release? You heard of need to blow some steam off?" Limbaugh asked a caller. "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time."

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You [ever] heard of need to blow some steam off?"[/]

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

(my previous post was re: "obviously I meant female Tucker Carlson", grr xposts)

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even wanna think about what the fuck Rush Limbaugh personally enjoys or "has fun" doing

(cue Bill Hicks "shit eater" bit)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Limbaugh, as unreconstructed as he is, really "tickled" by Abu Ghraib?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential/illustrating_absurdity/clubgitmo.guest.html

http://marbel.info/blog/images/2005/junigitmoshirt.GIF

double pleasure -> the bad guys got punished and the terrorsymp libruls got irate

― kingfish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1506164.jpg

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, admit you were wrong.

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Companies to pull ads from Coulter's Web site"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/05/coulter.ads/index.html

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

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We should have that image everytime a "illegal link" is removed.

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night Joe Scarborough (is that who it was?) followed up a long discussion of the Coulter affair with a "Hollyweird" segment on how Justin Timberlake tried to visit Britney but wasn't allowed to, and how John Travolta said that JT stole his dance moves from Saturday Night Fever. The segment was basically five minutes of Scarborough ridiculing JT's lack of masculinity.

SCARBOROUGH: She does need some panties. I mean, and speaking of somebody that—well, actually sometimes wears panties, Justin Timberlake wanting to go in to meet back up with Britney. What is that all about?

LANDRY: Well, I think he wants to get back in touch with her and be there for her to support her. But I don‘t think Lynne wants anything like that to happen. You know, Britney is trying to get back together with Kevin. And I guess Lynne is trying to make that happen.

SCARBOROUGH: I mean, I don‘t think it should. Tom O‘Neil, speaking of this guy who supposedly is bringing sexy back, John Travolta is telling MTV that Justin Timberlake stole his dance moves from “Saturday Night Fever,” what can you tell us about that?

O‘NEIL: Yes, isn‘t that something. This was an interview in which Travolta admits that he is stealing his dance moves from Tina Turner. And frankly, Tina wants them back. They are talking about the new movie “Hairspray” in which John Travolta plays drag. And in the course of all of this he said, well, by the way, Justin stole all of my moves.

SCARBOROUGH: Yes. Well, you want to get in the middle of Travolta and Timberlake, Lisa?

LANDRY: Boys, you are both pretty. Everybody just settle down.

SCARBOROUGH: They are pretty boys. What does that mean? I mean, I don‘t understand. Can you explain to me why anybody would think that Justin Timberlake brought sexy back, but that he is sexy at all? He is just a skinny, scrawny kid from like Orlando, right?

LANDRY: Well, I think it is easy to say that John Travolta danced with Olivia Newton-John, and he danced with Uma Thurman. And Justin was in ‘N Sync and he was dancing with Lance Bass. So it is kind of no contest there as to who is sexier.

SCARBOROUGH: Yes. I would take Travolta any time...not that I think guys are sexy, mind you.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I can't quote chapter and verse of Limbaugh's remarks on Abu Ghraib, so I can't really tell you if the statements that he made downplaying the incident were ever balanced by statements acknowledging that perhaps there was a boundary crossed there. Since I've never listened to his show, all I have to go by are the excerpts printed by his critics. In any case, even if Limbaugh does really support stripping Iraqi prisoners naked and putting dog collars on them, I have to admit that I don't really see the relevance to the popularity of Ann Coulter with her audience. Because if Coulter metaphorically strips her opponents and puts dog collars on them, then so does just about every pundit out there who is strongly opionated and combative.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

plz to photoshop bloated scientologist anally raping Scarborough

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Nate, she wasn't saying faggot on a TV show -- she was a paid speaker at a RNC event.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The sans-culottes posting on Townhall's comments page are ready to start confusing Dean Barnett with Robespierre.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

In any case, even if Limbaugh does really support stripping Iraqi prisoners naked and putting dog collars on them, I have to admit that I don't really see the relevance to the popularity of Ann Coulter with her audience.

both play to the idea of the acute desire that a lot of these authoritarian-types have in dehumanizing & punishing enemies, and both of these douchebags have got a lot of mileage out of painting anybody to the left of where they are that particular day as treasonous bastards, the kind that could be eliminated to improve things.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It was CPAC, not RNC.

― J, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

My bad, J.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

scarbhorough sexy country ewww

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey waitamin I thought Fall Guy was on NBCs on friday nights, not wednesdays. Wasn't Markie Post supposed to be on that show?

― kingfish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.exile.ru/transient/237/en_book_237.jpg

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Ann Coulter's popularity is more easily explained by the simple fact that she fills an under-exploited niche in the punditry: the young(ish), attractive, sort-of-hip female conservative

I think it's basically that crazies on both extremes of the political spectrum are really in love with fascism

"Why did you tell me to come this way, Grizelda? You know I hate nature! Look at those disgusting trees, stealing my oxygen. Oh, I can't stand this scenery another minute. All natural forests should be turned into housing developments! I want cement covering every blade of grass in this nation. Don't we taxpayers have a voice anymore?"

"A single gunshot cannot destroy the beauty of fascism!"

― daria-g, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Auntie Grizelda?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's basically that crazies on both extremes of the political spectrum are really in love with fascism

ugh

― milo z, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's basically that crazies on both extremes of the political spectrum are really in love with fascism

Fascism means something specific, doesn't it? Do you have any examples from the left?

― Sock Puppet, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

crazies on both extremes

i doubt that, but thing is, crazies on the left side ain't the main advertised speakers at big ass party events where they give their blessing for candidates, then get invited on the shouty shows to talk about that.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I was somewhat being flip but.. mostly I see in political blogosphere where it becomes hyperpartisanship and people wanting their side to win win win 100% of the time and never compromise on anything. Plenty of daily kos commentors expressed the idea that murtha should be majority leader b/c nancy pelosi speaker should be able to do whatever she wants. I'm like are you crazy? murtha isn't even liberal! at all!

― daria-g, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

crazies on the left side ain't the main advertised speakers at big ass party events
Yes, I thought that went without saying b/c obvious

― daria-g, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

DAR1A FOR SAKE OF YOUR MENTAL HEALTH STOP READING KOS COMMENTS

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Plenty of daily kos commentors expressed the idea that murtha should be majority leader b/c nancy pelosi speaker should be able to do whatever she wants. I'm like are you crazy? murtha isn't even liberal! at all!

What does this have to do with fascism? And yes, a lot of the Kos readership is hyper-partisan. That's what unites them, more so than ideology, so that should not come as a big shock.

― Sock Puppet, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Is PelosiUberAlles that much more hyperpartisan than moderate Democrats who froth at the mouth at the idea of third-party voters?

― milo z, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

fascism is a pretty specific historical political phenomenon - and while there have arguably been fascist regimes from both the left (I'm thinkin Peron here) and the right (everyone else) - any and all claims to fascism in America are usually inaccurate and overheated hyperbole.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

fascism /= advocating complete and total control by one side of the political spectrum

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Boht the extreme right and the extreme left have a tendancy toward totalitarianism.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Strictly speaking even nazism isn't fascism, though both are right wing authoritarian movements.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

What part of "being flip" was not clear.. sheesh..

Is PelosiUberAlles that much more hyperpartisan

well yeah, it's a little more crazy!! I can see being upset when having to say "plz make a choice between Dem/GOP candidate, because electing Gore and electing Bush are NOT THE SAME" to 3rd party voters in 00. with 50/50 hindsight and all, those two paths are pretty different. I can't see this "OK we won so now we want Pelosi to be iron lady and do whatever she wants and we're going to flood the phone lines of our own party demanding they go along and not undermine her."

alex I don't read much dKos any more but yesterday I did tell CODEPINK LA that as a feminist I object to their idiot fairy princess costumes

― daria-g, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

those crazy national socialists...

lets just agree that "fascist" is generally as roundly abused and misused an epithet as "communist"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

aw I heat Code Pink.

Little old lady protestors bring a tear to my eye.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

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