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just fyi after my whining about drafting rtr itt i am 19-0 so i was obv wrong abt this being a terrible format

f (Lamp), Friday, 14 December 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

damn no level up creatures in my ROE pack is a big disappointment

those seem like they could be OP in this league

ciderpress, Friday, 14 December 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

I think my best card might be raging river

iatee, Friday, 14 December 2012 05:59 (eleven years ago) link

what are you using to build your deck?

f (Lamp), Friday, 14 December 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://cockatrice.de/

iatee, Friday, 14 December 2012 06:04 (eleven years ago) link

i put my sealed pool into cockatrice but i hate deckbuilding in it

f (Lamp), Friday, 14 December 2012 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah I haven't dl'd it yet on this computer but I remember being frustrated by the deckbuilding UI too

iatee, Friday, 14 December 2012 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

just memorize all the cards and do the deckbuilding in your head like a savant

iatee, Friday, 14 December 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link

vaguely recall some other options existed, I'll look around tomorrow, falling asleep atm

iatee, Friday, 14 December 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm planning on using tappedout for the building, it's okay.

I have LEVEL UPS.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

I have my deck made if anyone has time today/night

iatee, Saturday, 15 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

i should have some time tonight

f (Lamp), Sunday, 16 December 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

okay rad!

iatee, Sunday, 16 December 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

i made the mistake of checking my work email :((

f (Lamp), Sunday, 16 December 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

haha I kinda ruined my trip to california by making that mistake

I may be up late if you have energy/time late

iatee, Sunday, 16 December 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

okay here's what I drafted today

2 Axebane Guardians
1 Gatecreeper Vine
1 Towering Indrik
1 Kurodza Guildmage
1 Centaur Healer
1 Wild Beastmaster
1 Martial Law
2 Giant Growth
1 Fencing Ace
1 Sluiceway Scorpion
1 Golgari Decoy
1 Azorious Justicar
1 Assassin's Strike
1 Trostani's Judgement
2 Thoughtflare
1 Carnival Hellsteed
1 Chorus of Might
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Treasured Find
1 Golgari Keyrune

1 Hallowed Fountain
2 Azorious Guildgate
2 Selesnya Guildgate
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Transguild Promenade
4 Forest
3 Swamp
2 Plains

frogbs, Monday, 17 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

wound up going 2-1. deck was really fun to play, maybe the most fun i've had with any deck in RTR, but I lost my ass to flyers + 3 Dramatic Rescue (good against Hellsteed I guess). it's a really slow deck, for sure. but once I made it to turn 9 or 10 things really started rolling

frogbs, Monday, 17 December 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that looks like a fun deck

iatee, Monday, 17 December 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

ps you should make your ilx sealed deck

iatee, Monday, 17 December 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that looks kinda like one of my 5-color drafts except that i'd never have taken wild beastmaster or that many pump spells, you're really never putting enough pressure on to use them aggressively. would rather have more big finishers, even the common ones like axebane stag or horncallers chant

ciderpress, Monday, 17 December 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah iatee i'll get around to it, gotta get cockatrice again, though i'm kind of confused, what was typed up for invasion isn't what was in my packs, the rare appears to be Void

anyway that draft deck started as Selesnya/Golgari but I used a lot of early picks on Thoughtflares and the Hellsteed because those packs literally had nothing I wanted to play, plus I got the dual (for tix purposes). So I figured, just take the best card in the pack. As a finisher I had Terrus Wurm but I eventually decided not to use it. I figured with two Thoughtflares I shouldn't need another big dude or mana sink. Every game I won was in a different way. One game I Chorus'ed Beastmaster with the Decoy out and won that way, another was just grinding it out with Martial Law and Deathrite, another I wound up with a ton of mana and used Guildmage to pump+sac some dudes then Chorus a Fencing Ace for a huge swing. When I took Beastmaster it was like p2p5 and I didn't think I'd go 5 color (last pack had the three manawalls/Izzet gate I needed). It really was an incredibly weird draft overall and one I could have really punted but it turned out fun, I just wish i had removal that didn't cost 6

frogbs, Monday, 17 December 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

We played sealed! So funnn.

Iatee beat me 2-1, it turns that Opposition is good on a stalled board, who knew.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 December 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Was pretty busy this weekend, but will build my deck during the week.

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

these are yours frog:
http://imgur.com/a/HvJO1

rare is rout

iatee, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

so the promo card for the January MOCS is Force of Will... this should be interesting. i'm definitely going to qualify but the tournament is Legacy which is annoying since its the only format I don't play - i watched a bunch of matches from the last Legacy MOCS though and it looked like the field was unsurprisingly saturated with cheapo red decks like burn and goblins. what's the cheapest Legacy deck i could build that crushes those decks and still has game vs others? am thinking a blue-less stoneforge+batterskull deck might be fine.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

there are no cheap legacy decks because fow

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

i mean other than the red ones

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

it's a cycle of dependency you have to buy force of wills to win a force of will

iatee, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

well you could also buy lion's eye diamonds

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

can someone explain how the LED decks work? do they just use Dredge, or what?

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

They're almost always Storm decks. LED usually gets used in response to cards that get other cards. For instance, cast Burning Wish or Ill-Gotten Gains, sac LED with that on the stack.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

LED is played in
-Belcher, as your last ritual to pay belcher's activation
-Dredge, to discard your hand to start dredging
-Storm, as a black lotus that turns Infernal Tutor into Diabolic Tutor so you can get Ad Nauseam and win

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

seems like it should be restricted

iatee, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

there are no cheap legacy decks because fow

― f (Lamp), Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:42 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are definitely some non-LED non-FOW decks but they're loaded with $20-30 cards instead of just having 4 $100 cards. i'm thinking about BW stoneforge with deathrite shamans and a small green splash for shaman activation and sideboard choke

i'd rather just play a goofy bad deck though if i can find one that reliably beats red decks and can occasionally steal wins vs other stuff. martyr of sands in legacy?? who knows

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

i do know how to play combo elves but god it's so bad vs everything

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

you should play aluren if you're playing bad non-fow decks

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

my plan is just to win the last chance mocs on the 22nd so im not gonna try fucking w/legacy tho so ymmv

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

aluren doesn't run fow? i'd play that

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

last chance is for 2012 season, this is for the new 2013 season

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but if i win the last chance than i will have won a mocs and thus can only play in the ones that are actually fun and not all of them in order to have won a mocs

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

although realistically i will probably just play a bunch to qualify and then not play the actual event just like i did with every other non-limited mocs event in 2012

f (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

lol http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3377/21c6f0b063ec4d368630026.png

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Sol Ring or Ancestral Recall there? Sheesh

Assuming this isn't fake I think it's interesting they're distributing the power in drafts this way, ensures that everyone gets two pieces (except one unlucky guy) rather than risk someone winding up with a deck capable of consistant turn 2 wins

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

no it's just a collation bug, they're pulling the drafts back down now to fix it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

actual lol @ dzy's face in that screengrab

f (Lamp), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if i'm actually gonna cube this time around, i'm really shitty at the format and i stopped playing it before because i just got frustrated and the payouts were worthless. power cube might be a whole different situation though, its more likely that my gimmick decks will work with all the fast mana.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kind of wondering how skill-intensive cube actually is. When your 15th picks can still win you games it seems the only way to draft a bad deck is to totally crew over your mana curve/color base. On the MTGO cube I really haven't seen the same deck twice, there's a hundred ways to win *and* lose.

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

how much is a cube draft?

iatee, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

it's 8 tix or 2 tix and 10 Cube tix. if you do Swiss the payouts are in Cube tickets, 16/8/4. So if you go 2-1 in each one it'll be something like 3-4 tix per draft. Obviously there's no way you can make anything (I don't even think the Cube tickets are tradeable) but it's really a lot of fun. I'm doing the power cube now and it's nuts, they don't bring back just the power 9, there's Sol Ring and Mind Twist and pretty much every other banned/busted card in Magic's history.

frogbs, Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

I'm doing one right now! My deck has 5 Fatties, 4 Signets, 3 Wraths, 2 Monoliths, and a Tooth and Nail (in a pear tree). Lots of fun.

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link


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