List conspiracy theories here.

have we done Libor yet?
a little bit was posted on the FB thread, which prompted me to google a little more.
get your string diagrams ready, this one's a doozy.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

O_o

The LIBOR thing doesn't even make sense in conspiracy logic... "These dudes know too much about some money thing so lets -- mind control their kids into being spree killers! Yes, its perfect... almost ~too perfect~..." IDGI, and I can understand the weird leap-of-faith loosely-connected threads of most conspiracy theory-type thinking.

Also it's super boring. It's got nothing on the secret nazi shadow government in league with reptilian inter-dimensional aliens that controls the world from the DIA. (did you ever notice that the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Denver International Airport have the same initials???? hmmmmmmmm)

I mean, the people who would believe this "LIBOR connection" thing already likely believe that the powers that be can manipulate the weather with HAARP and beam microwave thoughts into peoples heads and possibly have a hi-tech base/lab set up on the dark side of the moon... so you'd think covering up a financial scandal would be child's play that doesn't require mass murder.

OTOH I can totally understand senseless tragedies causing already paranoid people to devise conspiracy-laden reasons for their occurrence. Many people are laying the blame on the shoulders of the NRA, on violent media, poor mental healthcare in the US, etc... everyone creates a narrative of their own to explain things that don't make sense - like killing 20 children in cold blood. Conspiracy peeps gonna make it about conspiracy stuff. Just like the gun nuts are gonna say "the teachers should've been armed!" and the Tipper Gore's of the world are gonna say "black ops 2 trains children to murder!" and so on...

The fringier reactions to events like this are always gonna seem disgusting and callous to more level-headed people, but IMO they are coming from the same impulse in other people's minds that go "fuck, maybe we should ban handguns or make ammo really expensive or something!"

haha yeah it's TOTALLY boring. that's what I find so funny about it. "We can now link Aurora and Sandy Hook shootings to...dun dun DUN... LIBOR!" Uhh. Okay. and? They 'didn't' commit random massaces of innocent people because their fathers were...what? So the government did this why? I seriously don't even get what these guys even talking about.

It's like the least sexy conspiracy theory ever.

That's what they WANT you to believe!

lol

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20001119mag-scarry.html

In academic circles, this wide-eyed woman with a girlish voice and unruly blond locks is mostly known for her unflinching investigations of war, torture and pain. These are grim and very unlikely subjects for a Harvard English professor. But Scarry, 54, has long tested the boundaries of literary criticism, devoting the same analytical energies to reading a naval weapons manual as she does to reading Thomas Hardy. She has ventured even further afield with her current obsession: airplane crashes. This latest fixation has led her outside the ivory tower and into the fray of public debate.

Three years ago, during a characteristic foray into technical arcana -- this time, military antennas - Scarry stumbled on a startling piece of information. She came across an article explaining how the United States Air Force had been losing Black Hawk helicopters because of electromagnetic interference (EMI) from military planes. (EMI occurs when the energy emitted by one electrical device -- ranging in power from a cell phone to the radar on a military plane -- interferes with the performance of another.) Immediately, Scarry says, she thought of T.W.A. Flight 800, whose mysterious explosion off the tip of Long Island on July 17, 1996, continued to elude federal aviation authorities' attempts to explain it. Could EMI from military ships and planes in the vicinity of T.W.A. Flight 800 have taken down the plane?

A mere conspiracy theorist might have zapped his conjecture straight to Matt Drudge. Scarry's approach was far more methodical. She spent weeks in the library, poring over government documents, military journals, newspaper reports and engineering texts, slowly gathering evidence. Ultimately convinced that the EMI explanation was a reasonable possibility, Scarry in April 1998 published her findings in The New York Review of Books, a prestigious but decidedly literary journal.

It was an unlikely forum for a scientific expose. To make sure the authorities didn't miss her dense, 20,000-word essay -- sandwiched between a review of a book on 18th-century culture and an exchange on Northern Ireland -- she sent a copy to James Hall, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board. The agency eventually allocated several hundred thousand dollars for fresh research into EMI. What's more, Scarry's work was cited on the first page of a NASA study of EMI commissioned by T.W.A. 800 investigators.

These were remarkable coups for an English professor who had no formal training in aviation science and who had never been near a crash site. Anyone else might have stopped there, but Scarry wasn't through. This fall, she published two more articles in The New York Review, expanding her EMI hypothesis to include Swissair Flight 111, which went down near Nova Scotia after an electrical fire in September 1998, and EgyptAir Flight 990, whose fatal plunge into the Atlantic near Nantucket last October was caused, many experts believe, by a co-pilot on a suicide mission.

As an explanation for any of these plane crashes -- let alone all three -- Scarry's theory is generally considered extremely unlikely. (Ultimately, the N.T.S.B. ruled out EMI as a factor in the T.W.A. disaster.) But more interesting than whether she turns out to be right or wrong is the intellectual temperament that led Scarry to such unliterary pursuits in the first place. What is an English professor doing writing technical articles on airplane crashes? The answer, it turns out, owes nothing to a morbid streak; in fact, Scarry seems a resolutely cheerful person. Nor does it seem to be fueled by a private paranoia; despite her work on air disasters, she's a comfortable flier. Rather, it has to do with an almost alarmingly well-developed sense of civic duty. Let other literary critics debate T.S. Eliot's irony and Jane Austen's ambivalence about marriage. Scarry has grander aims for literary criticism. She wants to use it to solve social problems and save lives.

"There is nothing about being an English professor that exempts you from the normal obligations of citizenship," she says firmly. "In fact, you have an increased obligation, because you know how to do research."

Fake plastic snow the govt is trying to poison you wake up sheeple http://t.co/ecMgMaCLCG

Yep i heard about that last week. The snow in Atlanta was really lame snow btw.

It is more comforting to think the gov't can control the weather than the water supply is getting royally poisoned by utility companies.

sublimation shockah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLfo49UwPEs

I only just learned about this one today, interested parties please share your knowledge of this!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

There's a good chapter in Jon Ronson's book Them about it, old rich white guys reliving frat lifestyle

The complete episode of Secret Rules Of The World where Ronson and Alex Jones walk right into Bohemian Grove is online:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahQCEzjkfM

Ronson's ep of WTF is good stuff. He covers this incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7S-dzOmYE

So this is a guy who is an amateur astronomer (self-described Biblical astronomer) and predicts something called Planet 7-X is going to swoop into our neighborhood in March 2016.

As far as I can tell it doesn't have anything to do with the other Planet X conspiracy I know about, which is that there is a shadow Earth that has the same orbit of Earth yet it exactly on the other side of the Sun as Earth (and thus can't be detected). This Planet X is called Nibiru and has residents that need gold to live (in the same way that Bowie's Man Who Fell to Earth needs water to live) and thus have been doing ancient astronaut stuff to us to get us to mine gold for them. Every thing about that conspiracy is ridiculous.

they named a planet after nibiru in the last star trek movie, why would they do that if there wasn't scientific evidence

moe is going to destroy ILX tonight

Two more dead bankers over the weekend

- Liechtenstein Banker Shot Dead in Reported Investment Feud

-Ex-ABN Banker Schmittmann, Wife, Daughter Found Dead at Home

InfoWars and Above Top Secret have cornered the market on "dead banker conspiracy" mongering, but the body count is apparently over 20 within the past 12 months.

Another banker kills himself.

JP Morgan executive director Julian Knott blasted his wife Alita to death with a shotgun before turning the gun on himself.

The 45-year-old, who worked for the investment bank in London until July 2010, shot his 47-year-old wife multiple times before committing suicide with the same weapon.

my twelve-year-old niece recently got top marks for a history essay in which she argued that JFK's assassination was a joint FBI-CIA conspiracy, I think with Oswald being the CIA's shooter and some other guy the FBI's. Is this accepted JFK conspiracy lore (I suppose there's so much of it that any idea you have would already be accepted JFK conspiracy lore) or has she plucked it out of thin air?

To this day George HW Bush is the only person alive who cannot remember where he was the day Kennedy died (he was a CIA agent in Dallas that day. in fact, in a practice known as "doubling", the CIA hired for six months another "George Bush" in late 1963 and he was gone soon after, the idea being they could plausibly deny that "George Bush" was in Dallas that day.)

The best book on the JFK assassination that I've read (I read a few) is Who Shot JFK? by Robin Ramsay. It's a well written, brief, serious, sober overview of the case without any minutiae about ballistics or whatever. LBJ was behind it btw.

I read Libra about 6 years ago and am willing to accept it as 95% truth ;)

Two more bankers commit suicide

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/world/europe/thierry-leyne-dies-in-israel.html

PARIS — Thierry Leyne, a French-Israeli banker and partner of Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the disgraced former chief of the International Monetary Fund, was found dead on Thursday after apparently taking his own life in Tel Aviv.

Mr. Leyne, 48, jumped off the 23rd floor of one of the Yoo towers, a prestigious residential complex, according to Israeli officials.

The two men met several years ago and, in October 2013, founded Leyne Strauss-Kahn & Partners in an effort to capitalize on the former fund chief’s experience and expertise. The company offers investment banking advice and services.

After training as a civil engineer, Mr. Leyne made a career in private banking, management and investment. In 1994, he founded Assya Capital, a trading company that was listed on the Euronext Free Market in 2001.

Mr. Strauss-Kahn became an investment banker after his career was buffeted by a series of sex scandals. He has helped the government of South Sudan set up a bank, and he advised the Serbian government on economic issues. He also sits on the board of two big Russian financial institutions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/25/us-deutsche-bank-suicide-idUSKCN0IE08U20141025

(Reuters) - A senior Deutsche Bank regulatory lawyer has been found dead in New York after committing suicide, New York City officials said on Saturday.

Calogero Gambino, 41, was found on the morning of Oct. 20 at his home in the New York borough of Brooklyn and pronounced dead on the scene, according to New York City police.

Gambino was an associate general counsel and a managing director who worked for the German bank for 11 years, according to the Wall Street Journal, which first reported his death.

He had been closely involved in negotiating legal issues for Deutsche Bank such as a probe by regulators of banks over allegations they manipulated the Libor benchmark interest rate as well as currency markets.

Hey, we got Libor again.

And another: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Citigroup-Executive-Dead-Throat-Slashed-Bathtub-Greenwich-Village-NYC-283257561.html

Police are investigating the death of a Citigroup manager who was found in his Manhattan apartment bathtub with this throat cut.

Police say 42-year-old Shawn Miller was discovered Tuesday afternoon by his doorman at his Greenwich Village apartment after a friend asked to check on him. He was found with a slash wound on his neck in his bathtub.

Authorities say there was no sign of forced entry and no weapon found. The medical examiner's office will determine the cause of death.

Miller was managing director of the environment and social risk management team at Citigroup, Inc

And another: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wealthy-banker-impaled-spikes-following-60ft-fall-luxury-london-penthouse-1478841

Wealthy banker impaled on spikes following 60ft fall from luxury London penthouse

A man has died in an horrific accident, falling 60 feet from the window of a Marylebone flat after being impaled on iron railings.

He was pronounced dead at the scene and police are not treating the death as suspicious.

Neighbours believe the man, who was in his 50s, worked in banking or the financial services and was from the UK.

Firefighters cut through the 5ft railings with an angle grinder before the body could be moved, according to the Evening Standard

And this one: http://www.globalresearch.ca/riddles-surround-36th-dead-banker-of-the-year/5418654

So what is the supposed conspiracy behind these deaths? What 's supposed to connect these bankers to each other besides the fact that they're bankers?

Having been a big elite firm corporate lawyer, these are almost certainly suicides. Fi there is any kind of conspiracy, it is the banks awkwardly trying to hide that they are suicides.

It's possible, of course, that it's not a simple case of one or the other; some could be just suicides, while others could have been 'suicided' for knowing too much about some financial crime or other. Seems plausible to me if certain people didn't want to go to jail, and would be standard in organised crime.

I guess that's possible in some individual cases, but the article Elvis linked to lists 36 bankers, who worked for different banks and died in different countries and continents, as if there's some connection between all of them, without bothering to make any suggestions what connection might be. Obviously you could make a similar list with people in any stressful profession, so this particular conspiracy theory seems even vaguer than they usually tend to be,

There are lots of conspiracy theory sites that attempt to find connections between different people on the list of dead bankers, e.g. companies they worked for in the past that happen to be under investigation over the LIBOR thing etc. etc. Others will say there's no smoke without fire and the deaths tie in with their belief that the banking system as a whole is fraudulent and the 'elite' or 'elites' want to keep it going and for the masses not to find out what's been going on, because that might threaten the system etc. That would be the bigger, admittedly very vague theory.

Adding fuel to that fire is the sense among the conspiracy community that a second and greater version of the 2008 Depression is headed our way.

I'm reminded of the lists of strange deaths JFK assassination researchers compile, tying in enough murders, car crashes, and heart attacks to fill a Google spreadsheet. Without any new evidence or research, about all you can do is fume that They got away with it.

just stumbled across the 'jump rooms to mars' theory, which is a new one on me but seems legit:

In El Segundo, California, in a CIA laboratory, there is an elevator that transports a human being onto Mars, or any other planet with a solid ground. Mars is well known because it as been tested many, many times for the test runs. This technology came about from reverse engineering of a crashed spaceship which was sent from Alpha Centauri, the constellation made famous from the movie Avatar, although it was well known in the scientific and conspiracy theorist community; but it was hardly news in the real world. The scientist discovered that through the consciousness of a human or alien mind, the ship sets a destination you desire, and opens up a worm hole in front of the ship which transports you to the destination of your liking. This sounds like ‘Star Wars’ or ‘Star Gate’ type hogwash, but two of the top CIA officials have come out to talk about this ‘Jump Room’. Andrew D. Basiago has been the biggest and the most resourceful evidence of this Jump Room, which was created from reverse engineering. You have to ask yourself, why were all these probes like Beagle 1, 2, and 3 were sent to mars, to see the how it looks like? No, NASA has seen enough of Mars, much before they announced it with their phony mission of Beagle. The main function for sending Beagle to Mars was to set up the elevator of jump room, which will act as the receiving end catcher for any object or human to be transported there. Right now, you must have another Jump Room available at the other end in order for you to go from place to place. The first time this was used was back in 1996, when they landed the first robotic rover on mars which they claimed was just a camera on wheel taking pictures and samples on mars. This entire project was financed by German Nazis, since the end of WW II Era. Germans were very, very intelligent and they were the most advanced in science and mathematics compare to any other country including United States. It took over 40 years to solve the riddles and mysteries of the spaceship which also contained the technology of Jump Room.

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/11/mars-visitors-basiago-and-stillings-confirm-barack-obama-traveled-to-mars-1.html

Two former participants in the CIA’s Mars visitation program of the early 1980’s have confirmed that U.S. President Barack H. Obama was enrolled in their Mars training class in 1980 and was among the young Americans from the program who they later encountered on the Martian surface after reaching Mars via “jump room.”

wow, that story is worth reading in full, not least for the revelation that 97,000 people have been to mars and that 'one of their principal concerns on Mars would be to avoid being devoured by one of the predator species on the Martian surface, some of which they would be able to evade, and some of which were impossible to evade if encountered'.

Thought all this was common knowledge.

i want to believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE4e-Fp1UZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzSoWghM-E

Bohemian Grove campout is this week:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/4205786-181/campout-of-wealthy-and-powerful?page=0

<3

my friend's Dad has been to Bohemian Grove. I wish i could be smuggled in

i just wanna see that owl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/3d-model-just-proved-authenticity-controversial-photo-jfks-assassin-180956991

From the moment John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas on November 22, 1963, conspiracy theorists and skeptics have dissected the events of that fateful day. Now, 3D modeling has resolved a longstanding debate about an incriminating photo showing Kennedy’s assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, with a rifle in his backyard. According to these new results, the photo is authentic

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-cia-the-death-of-bob-marley/44101

CIA murdered Bob Marley

With an assist from Danny Baker

(He denies it so it must be true: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-11-17/danny-baker-i-didnt-kill-bob-marley )