indefensible: john gruber

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Clever new iOS puzzle game from the makers of Canabalt. I very much like the visual aesthetic.

lol the visual aesthetic of this game is terrible and the game is terrible, but on the other hand it is helvetica and not free so...

caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:08 (seven years ago) link

it's actually an intriguing game tho, gotta admit I paid for it, I will take a $3 flyer on anything

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:04 (seven years ago) link

diamonddave85 otm tho

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:05 (seven years ago) link

it is a bad game imo, and way overpriced for the App Store. Seriously think you could sell Gruber a bit of dog dirt as long as you set it in helvetica and charged 49$ for it.

caek, Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:35 (seven years ago) link

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/01/08/tradeshow-tailgating

good grief this guy has appalling taste in writing

i should stop reading him

caek, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 10:56 (seven years ago) link

Tech journalist as a half-empty jar of mayonnaise seems somewhat on the nose, although not how the writer intended.

mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:32 (seven years ago) link

tech journalist as deathdr0ne's cigar box

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:36 (seven years ago) link

credit due this is a good piece http://daringfireball.net/2013/01/the_trend_against_skeuomorphism

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:04 (seven years ago) link

I know some iOS apps are definitely this way but claiming iOS is the leading edge for "flatness" is straight-up bullshit when Windows 8 exists

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:28 (seven years ago) link

things do look real crisp on nice displays, though

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:28 (seven years ago) link

not that i think its a particularly important point but the retina display way predates windows 8

lag∞n, Friday, 18 January 2013 22:34 (seven years ago) link

not sure what we're supposed to do if we eliminate all skeumorphism, besides just everything looking like flat squares, who actually wants that

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 18 January 2013 22:49 (seven years ago) link

Most UIs aren't that skeumorphic! There aren't really that many real life items with drop-down menus and shit.

Windows 8 probably a mediocre reference point here, but I feel like saying creative iOS developers own "flatness" is kind of wrong-headed.

Windows 8 prerelease 1 did come out a month before iPhone 4S, though.

mh, Friday, 18 January 2013 23:03 (seven years ago) link

ya I mean 'flat design' has been around forever really and its kinda an imprecise distinction, the thing I found intersting abt the piece is the observation that hi def screens allow for more sophisticated design

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:01 (seven years ago) link

also iirc the iPhone 4 was the 1st one w retina

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:05 (seven years ago) link

Oh, yeah

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:40 (seven years ago) link

His argument is basically "we can have games with helvetica that look like they're printed paper"

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:42 (seven years ago) link

if u can make software that looks like its printed thats a huge difference!

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:46 (seven years ago) link

^^^ the point abt "you don't see high-gloss reflection w/drop shadows and textures in print" is a good one.

stet, Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:38 (seven years ago) link

gotta say tho I have decided that Ikea's corporate identity switch to Verdana was an inspired move. Futura was too far on the "aspirational" end of the scale. Verdana may be an odd choice but it's a pretty good one when you're at the store seeing it in context.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:19 (seven years ago) link

wank wank remove bookmark from thread u grubers

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:53 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

this is his worst post

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/02/15/posterous

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:03 (seven years ago) link

ever

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:03 (seven years ago) link

p.s. jh0 otm that skeuomorphism piece was good, although it reminded me of this: indefensible: john gruber

caek, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:05 (seven years ago) link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kihlbom/8483283129/in/set-72157632789034693/

markers, Thursday, 21 February 2013 02:36 (seven years ago) link

the first sentence of this interview of marco on the brooks report reads like it was written by a 12 year old:

One thing that has really been on my mind lately is how publishing is changing.

☕ (diamonddave85), Monday, 25 February 2013 22:51 (seven years ago) link

In conclusion, publishing is in a time of great change.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Ever since the beginning of time, man has wondered about how publishing is changing.

乒乓, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:07 (seven years ago) link

Another thing I thought was interesting about publishing was how it is changing.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:08 (seven years ago) link

ha. sentence 2:

Many think it is a bit crazy that I went with a paywall, but even more crazy is that I was thinking of shutting down the site as it is and doing a periodical on the iPad instead (cooler heads prevailed).

i think it's crazy you expect people to pay for sentences written like this, yes.

caek, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:09 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.muleradio.net/newdisruptors/14/

markers, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:13 (seven years ago) link

what

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:16 (seven years ago) link

love that pic

diamonddave85, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:23 (seven years ago) link

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/04/02/finding-dory

congratulations to the tories

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:11 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/319162801564307456

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:36 (seven years ago) link

TS: "congratulations to the tories" vs. "is that like fanboy but also gay?"

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:57 (seven years ago) link

god

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:00 (seven years ago) link

can we try to do something so ben brooks talks about us again

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:01 (seven years ago) link

haha

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:02 (seven years ago) link

i love it when that deep vein of conservatism that runs through everything he writes bubbles up

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:07 (seven years ago) link

ya like when he goes off on how america doesnt need unions anymore smh

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:04 (seven years ago) link

what is the deep vien of conservatism, that he likes the incredibles

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:06 (seven years ago) link

i'm down with the kind of conservatism that avoids sequels but that means no iphone 5s, 6 etc...

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:07 (seven years ago) link

i mean small c conservatism

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:09 (seven years ago) link

http://brooksreview.net/2012/12/unions/

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:10 (seven years ago) link

like i feel his extreme aesthetic conservatism is part of a more general cultural conservatism

caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:11 (seven years ago) link

jesus fucking christ

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:47 (seven years ago) link

p much

i dont know why i ever had that guy in my RSS reader but when i dumped him and some other gruberhead dittoheads (kept the main guy tho) i felt like my life had noticeably improved

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:06 (seven years ago) link

Gruber spends way too much time calling out people who say dumb shit about apple, not enough time rumor-mongering.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:44 (seven years ago) link


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