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"but perez hilton IS a messy faggot"

-- everyone

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:04 (eleven years ago) link

YUNG RAPUNXEL ‏@AZEALIABANKS
A faggot is not a homosexual male. A faggot is any male who acts like a female. There's a BIG difference.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

oh jesus fucking christ

hemioblock (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

thanks, eminem

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

fourfrogbs

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

honestly I'm much less offended by her original statement than her clarification

hemioblock (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah why some people were so eager to give her the benefit of the doubt i'm not sure.

alex in montreal otm on twitter

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:47 (eleven years ago) link

smh these two clowns

teledyldonix, Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh azealia :////////

lex pretend, Saturday, 5 January 2013 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

putting it on the spectrum of anti-immigrant rhetoric is LOL thats all

i was obviously putting johnny's comment on that spectrum, not azealia's

lex pretend, Saturday, 5 January 2013 08:44 (eleven years ago) link

Rich's reactions the most surprising.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 January 2013 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

wtf did azealia actually say that

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 January 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

i was obviously putting johnny's comment on that spectrum, not azealia's

Not that either comment was anti-immigrant, but how did mine come across that way when her's did not?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 January 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

not surprised by his reaction, actually.

s.clover, Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

kdhjoedhewf

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

This backfired on both of them. Terrible stuff.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

love the judgments from on high about this episode, when did male rappers beefing ever get the "tut-tut, terrible stuff" line

in a month's time no one will remember

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

Male rappers rarely look good beefing either - unless they can tie it into some sort of big mythology about themselves that they can build on. That certainly didn't happen here.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean the Cassidy/Meek Mill thing is stupid as fuck too, it's pretty rare that beef isn't especially these days

some dude, Monday, 7 January 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

i just remembered the common/drake beef over serena williams

i take my post back

though really how can anything actually "backfire" on an artist these days, that's evidence right there - everything carried on as normal for both despite their silliness, as it will here

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah people will pretend every beef has Ja Rule levels of potential career ruination and it's just delusional, the stakes are never that high.

some dude, Monday, 7 January 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

my fav were the rumors floating around this weekend that interscope had dropped azeala for calling perez a faggot. those labels and their strict morals!

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

and things move too fast. something else will happen this week. pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

― lex pretend, Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol exactly

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Beef really hasn't been the same since 50 Cent failed to take out Rick Ross. That was the Titanic of Rap Beefs.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

well... the thing w/ that one is that people at the time saw 50 as being greater than ross even from an objective career perspective but he was really just on his execrable slide down a creative and moral bottomless pit, whereas ross' career was still on the upswing. granted that beef sort of amplified those trends but it was also 50 fucking with someone people cared more about even if a lot of others didn't realize it at the time. could say the same thing in less dramatic terms about his "beef" with kanye, too.

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

was 50 vs kanye the point where people started automatically thinking "publicity stunt" about beef? like, that was so contrived

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

tho yknow cf http://favstar.fm/users/roxanne_shante/status/156178152270475264

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

Of course. But the remarkable thing about the beef with Ross was that it was all about authenticity and myth/persona. 50 tore down Ross' narrative about himself and it still didn't help.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

all of 50's beefs circa The Massacre 2 years earlier were widely dismissed as publicity stunts

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, 50 Cent actually suffered from his misguided crusades.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

nah 50's downfall was proof that people care more about hits than drama, he stopped having hits even when he kept bringing the drama

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

word

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Rap beef is essentially a race to the bottom. You sling as much shit as you can and hope your opponent runs out of ammo/dignity before you do. Either way you generally come out of it covered in shit. Without an album to offset the attention all these petty spats could really come back to haunt Banks.

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 January 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

xpost. True. But 50 Cent had built big parts of his persona around the idea of him being the guy who destroyed other people's careers. When he failed so miserably with Ross and his album underperformed, he found himself with no leg to stand on.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

that's a pretty rosy reading of 50's career at that point, longneck

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

things just ain't the same for gangstas

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

they wear a lotta spandex

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

xpost.
Ha, the 2007 album had some minor joints at least. And it did go platinum in the end, right? His era was definitely coming to an end at that point, but the double flop (beef + album) of 09 still felt brutal. At that point there was no coming back.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Before I Self Destruct and Deeper Than Rap sold almost the exact same amount, j0rdan's right that it was more about perception and their trajectories at that time

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

anyway it's hilarious that major media outlets are reporting on these 2 barely famous chicks as if it were a beef between artists as big as 50 cent and rick ross

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

What careers did 50 destroy?!

If AZB is harmed at all it'll be because she KEEPS ON beefing with amyone and everyone, not this specific spat (though using "faggot" when your fanbase is so heavily gay is uhhhh extra dumb). But it'll be forgotten in a month as all these things are

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

lex have you heard of this person ja rule

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

anyway it's hilarious that major media outlets are reporting on these 2 barely famous chicks as if it were a beef between artists as big as 50 cent and rick ross

Which is exactly how they both benefit from it! It's reported as if it's a Big Deal. Helps that it all happened in the dead 1st week of Jan

lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

it is hilarious that this article exists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_feuds_of_50_Cent

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

Ja Rule. Young Buck. Plus he had a hand in breaking up Dipset by beefing with Cam while becoming friendly with Jim Jones in public. He did also manage to make life difficult for The Game, even though Game kinda beat the odds on that one.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Ja Rule's demise was more down to the fact that he allowed the accusations of "softness" to get to him an alienated his fanbase by releasing Blood In My Eye.

He did more damage with that than 50 could ever have dreamed of.

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

you realize the lead single of Blood In My was a 50 diss right

thomp ynchon (some dude), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

Well that's how Ross "won" - he didn't allow himself to be substantially influenced by the competing narratives about who (or what) he was. He did toughen up a bit, developing his signature grunt in a more aggressive direction, but in the end he only benefited from it.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

That isn't the point. There were no club/radio friendly hits on the album, which is what had been his bread and butter. I think pretty much every song on the album was a diss and frankly nobody wants to hear that shit.

tsrobodo, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link


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