Angel Haze

wtf did azealia actually say that

i was obviously putting johnny's comment on that spectrum, not azealia's

Not that either comment was anti-immigrant, but how did mine come across that way when her's did not?

not surprised by his reaction, actually.

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This backfired on both of them. Terrible stuff.

love the judgments from on high about this episode, when did male rappers beefing ever get the "tut-tut, terrible stuff" line

in a month's time no one will remember

Male rappers rarely look good beefing either - unless they can tie it into some sort of big mythology about themselves that they can build on. That certainly didn't happen here.

yeah i mean the Cassidy/Meek Mill thing is stupid as fuck too, it's pretty rare that beef isn't especially these days

i just remembered the common/drake beef over serena williams

i take my post back

though really how can anything actually "backfire" on an artist these days, that's evidence right there - everything carried on as normal for both despite their silliness, as it will here

yeah people will pretend every beef has Ja Rule levels of potential career ruination and it's just delusional, the stakes are never that high.

my fav were the rumors floating around this weekend that interscope had dropped azeala for calling perez a faggot. those labels and their strict morals!

and things move too fast. something else will happen this week. pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

― lex pretend, Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol exactly

Beef really hasn't been the same since 50 Cent failed to take out Rick Ross. That was the Titanic of Rap Beefs.

well... the thing w/ that one is that people at the time saw 50 as being greater than ross even from an objective career perspective but he was really just on his execrable slide down a creative and moral bottomless pit, whereas ross' career was still on the upswing. granted that beef sort of amplified those trends but it was also 50 fucking with someone people cared more about even if a lot of others didn't realize it at the time. could say the same thing in less dramatic terms about his "beef" with kanye, too.

was 50 vs kanye the point where people started automatically thinking "publicity stunt" about beef? like, that was so contrived

tho yknow cf http://favstar.fm/users/roxanne_shante/status/156178152270475264

Of course. But the remarkable thing about the beef with Ross was that it was all about authenticity and myth/persona. 50 tore down Ross' narrative about himself and it still didn't help.

all of 50's beefs circa The Massacre 2 years earlier were widely dismissed as publicity stunts

I mean, 50 Cent actually suffered from his misguided crusades.

nah 50's downfall was proof that people care more about hits than drama, he stopped having hits even when he kept bringing the drama

word

Rap beef is essentially a race to the bottom. You sling as much shit as you can and hope your opponent runs out of ammo/dignity before you do. Either way you generally come out of it covered in shit. Without an album to offset the attention all these petty spats could really come back to haunt Banks.

xpost. True. But 50 Cent had built big parts of his persona around the idea of him being the guy who destroyed other people's careers. When he failed so miserably with Ross and his album underperformed, he found himself with no leg to stand on.

that's a pretty rosy reading of 50's career at that point, longneck

things just ain't the same for gangstas

they wear a lotta spandex

xpost.
Ha, the 2007 album had some minor joints at least. And it did go platinum in the end, right? His era was definitely coming to an end at that point, but the double flop (beef + album) of 09 still felt brutal. At that point there was no coming back.

Before I Self Destruct and Deeper Than Rap sold almost the exact same amount, j0rdan's right that it was more about perception and their trajectories at that time

anyway it's hilarious that major media outlets are reporting on these 2 barely famous chicks as if it were a beef between artists as big as 50 cent and rick ross

What careers did 50 destroy?!

If AZB is harmed at all it'll be because she KEEPS ON beefing with amyone and everyone, not this specific spat (though using "faggot" when your fanbase is so heavily gay is uhhhh extra dumb). But it'll be forgotten in a month as all these things are

lex have you heard of this person ja rule

anyway it's hilarious that major media outlets are reporting on these 2 barely famous chicks as if it were a beef between artists as big as 50 cent and rick ross

Which is exactly how they both benefit from it! It's reported as if it's a Big Deal. Helps that it all happened in the dead 1st week of Jan

it is hilarious that this article exists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_feuds_of_50_Cent

Ja Rule. Young Buck. Plus he had a hand in breaking up Dipset by beefing with Cam while becoming friendly with Jim Jones in public. He did also manage to make life difficult for The Game, even though Game kinda beat the odds on that one.

Ja Rule's demise was more down to the fact that he allowed the accusations of "softness" to get to him an alienated his fanbase by releasing Blood In My Eye.

He did more damage with that than 50 could ever have dreamed of.

you realize the lead single of Blood In My was a 50 diss right

Well that's how Ross "won" - he didn't allow himself to be substantially influenced by the competing narratives about who (or what) he was. He did toughen up a bit, developing his signature grunt in a more aggressive direction, but in the end he only benefited from it.

That isn't the point. There were no club/radio friendly hits on the album, which is what had been his bread and butter. I think pretty much every song on the album was a diss and frankly nobody wants to hear that shit.

well i think in the end the funniest thing about the ross/50 beef is that it really freed ross of his existential shackles re having been a cop, thus allowing him to embrace the even more absurd persona that has fueled his renaissance.

there wasn't much room left for ja artistically anyway but maybe he should've gone all in with a best of both worlds album w/ ashanti or something

Yes and yes!

have you ever seen them both in the same room? think about it

where's the nabisco post where he declared Ja Rule to be his nemesis

are you saying nabisco's beef destroyed ja?

50 pretty much just kicked Ja on the way down

i think that's kind of an overstatement. Ja had two back-to-back #1 singles like 6 months before "Wanksta" hit.

It wasn't just Ja who sort of went nowhere very rapidly in that time period. Ashanti, etc. too. He was just especially high profile. That whole sound just sort of fell apart.

Already by The Last Tempation in 2002, Ja Rule wasn't producing the same sort of hits he had with Pain is Love.

Also remember Murder Inc. fell apart, came under federal investigation, got dropped from Def Jam, etc. Around that time 7 Aurelius, who produced some of the highest profile singles had a big feud with Irv Gotti too, claimed that Gotti had taken credit for lots of his tracks (probably true), and soforth.

chink santana is the unsung murda inc hero tho

fucking hell she was electrifying @ the scala tonight. so much stage presence and aggression. entire room completely silent and holding their breath when she did "cleaning out my closet". she's the most important young rapper in the game bar none right now

i stack their bodies on top of each other like i'm hitler