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s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I spent a good three hours with the After Hours DVD last night, and was a little disappointed in the commentary. I was so excited about it, too -- "OMG I could listen to Marty talk all day long!" -- but it's not like that. It's "scene specific commentary," meaning that the movie skips from one scene to another while the commentary plays. Also, few details are given about the specific scenes that are playing. Marty just kind of gives a little history of the film, and, you know, there are books that do that already. Also, the DP does almost all of the talking. This is not without interest, but it's not what I wanted.

That said, the movie is great. I'd forgotten how unsympathetic the Griffin Dunne character is. He's not just some lonely schmuck who has bad luck, he's a lecherous bore who sets out to get laid, and would just as soon fuck the roommate as the girl he came to see. He only becomes sympathetic after his situation becomes *impossible*.

Question: what's with the Wizard of Oz shit? Is there anything to the fact that all the women he meets wear yellow, or that he just wants to go home?

Today: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and all the new Goodfellas stuff. I'm a little less optimistic about the commentary than I was when I started.

Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Good thing I have this rented for two days. No way I can watch the extras immediately after watching the movie. It's such a fucking knockout. I need a rest.

Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

The 'film school' program on the Who's That Knocking... DVD sounds interesting.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
i finally got around to watching the cast & crew commentary... so interesting and entertaining!

the "cop and crook" one however is a little zzzz. lots of awkward silences and throat-clearings.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i like it better than the godfather.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

people who hate goodfellas need to be punched in the cock.

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

repeatedly.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:59 (eighteen years ago) link

with both fists

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Would that amuse you?

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's better than the godfather too... i think it might be the PERFECT MOVIE.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be perfect except for the mildly distracting aging problem. It's still amazing though. I might like The Godfather just a shade better, but that's not a slight on Goodfellas.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish i could have an opinion on the godfather but ive tried to watch it several times and i cannot for the life of me understand a word marlon brando is saying. its very frustrating and it makes me feel deaf.

ive been trying to push the sopranos on to pleasant plains for sometime now. since weve watch seasons 1-4 of curb your enthusiasm we need another show to compliment our twice weekly homestyle bake dinners. goodfellas is his favorite movie. does loving goodfellas = loving the sopranos?

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

punch me in the cock, guys!!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

well I don't hate it, I just have no desire to ever see it again.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

:(

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it might be the perfect movie.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I want it to be the perfect movie, but Alex is right about the aging.

I was CRYING when Magin Johnson did donuts in a magical AIDS thrfit store (dr g), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

How did it age? During which part would a viewer say, "Oh, that is so 1990..."?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

the aging of the characters

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

it hasn't aged, and neither did Ray Liotta in the film!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

And DeNiro looked the same at 20 as he did at 50. He was born a 50-year old man, like Will Ferrell in that one skit.

But I don't care.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought DeNiro's aging was okay for the most part, Liotta didn't age as much as he started to sweat more over time. but a perfect film nonetheless.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

What, Joe Pesci as a twenty-year old out front of the burning Tiki club didn't convince anyone?

Okay. I see where you all are coming from.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really care about the aging... at least i don't think it detracts from the movie. in a way it sort of works, makes it almost more like a play

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

...or not? i'm not sure, i'm struggling to articulate this, but it's just this non-realistic element that somehow just sits fine with me. almost like the movie exists in henry's memory, where everyone always looks the way you remember them

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i don't really care about the age thing, i'm always surprised when ppl say it detracts. i mean jimmy stewart is like 30 years too old for his part in the man who shot liberty valance, and it doesn't bother me at all.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link

A lot of those guys has such intense early adulthoods that they may have looked 45 at 30.

Say what you will about Sorvino's gray dye, but the actors all did a champ job of acting old. Liotta convinced me of being a wild-eyed young punk to being a middle-aged tired coke addict.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i love the scene where they go to Pesci's mothers house to get a knife and she cooks them all dinner and Pesci describes his mothers painting. "this guy says...waddya want from me." If no one knew, thats Scorceses mother in that scene.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Everyone knew.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

She's really funny. She does a great job in Casino too.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i figured as much.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

his mother??? wow :D

gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

and this guy's saying, "What do you want from me?"

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

almost like the movie exists in henry's memory

This is OTM, I mean isn't that pretty much the explicit playout at the ending?

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"content to be a jerk" is kinda my life philosophy

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://imdb.com/title/tt0101243/

gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

funny how misquoting can sound wrong, I thought it was more like:

one dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way and the guy in the middle's saying "what do you want from me?"

google says:

Tommy DeVito : Oh I like this one... One dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way, and this guy's sayin', 'Whadda ya want from me?'

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Was the guy in the middle? I thought both dogs were at the front of the boat, but you know what? I DON'T HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, I just thought "it wasn't at such a steep angle, they must have been in front"

I haven't seen the movie in a good four or five years


it was a painting, btw, not a photograph

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
ive been trying to push the sopranos on to pleasant plains for sometime now. since weve watch seasons 1-4 of curb your enthusiasm we need another show to compliment our twice weekly homestyle bake dinners. goodfellas is his favorite movie. does loving goodfellas = loving the sopranos?

Yes it does. Especially when you see Christopher shoot someone in the foot.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Goodfellas is great, but am I the only one that thinks the "You think I'm funny?" scene would have worked a thousand times better if the stuff Pesci says beforehand was genuinely laugh-out-loud funny?

Watching Casino on network TV is insane. I didn't know you could say "sand nigger" on regular TV and get away with it. "FREAK YOU, SAM ROTHSTEIN!! FREAK YOU!!"

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Goodfellas, saw The Sopranos once and don't feel like I'm missing much.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Also re 'convincing' 'aging' in The Godfather -- HEY, 47-y.o. Marlon Brando, YOU GOT KLEENEX IN YER CHEEKS!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

WRONG

Marlon Brando wanted to make Don Corleone look "like a bulldog", so he stuffed his cheeks with cotton wool for the screen test. For actual filming, he wore an appliance made by a dentist. [...] Brando's mouthpiece is on display in the American Museum of the Moving Image in Queens, New York.

fez, Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

sopranos is great, fuck.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

what is pesci *ON ABOUT* in that scene pre the funny speech? i mean, what the...

piscesboy, Friday, 7 April 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

he gets busted by the cops, they're like, why are you out here in the marshes or some shit (he's been whacking someone? as in 'the godfather'?), and he manages to get a night in the cells by being a wiseguy with them.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I was looking for the dialogue for that scene and my colleague just caught me googling "go fuck your mother" :-/

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link


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