if that's indicative of the shift we're def headed into the family guy zone, which ain't all bad as long as they're faithful to the characters.
― da croupier, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
it was odd that on a recent Harmontown, DH called Chevy from the stage and Chase called him back later. Sounds like they still get along.
― President Keyes, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Harmon's always said they get along fine because they're so similar: they're both giant babies
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
Did I say I no longer fear Season 4? Apparently, there's good reason to fear.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 7 February 2013 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
Season Faux, two days away
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
one day actually, though I won't watch it until Friday
though I guess the hundred or so episodes of Harmontown in the past month make up for it
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
xp Yeah - Harmontown is great, Harmon being a character in his own right. He manages to be very magnetic and sorta... repulsive? overbearing? relentless? simultaneously.
Liked him detailing how he's essentially derailed at least one of the three shows he's incubating right now.
― "Rob is startled, this is straight up gangster" (R Baez), Thursday, 7 February 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
not that i have any hope for the new season but that NYT article is annoying me. complaining about britta not remembering the history of inspector spacetime? goes beyond giving a bad review and sounds like catering to the rabid avclub fans. (and then he gets the info about pierce leaving wrong and implying that there might be hope for a season 5, which, o_0). and isn't happy endings a really well-liked show?
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
but if it's truly dumbed down, i don't really get the point. if NBC was going to strike the set months before the first episode even aired why didn't they just keep harmon on board and let him do what he wants. they're in might-as-well-burn-the-season-off mode now.
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
Seeing Harmontown live last week was certainly something.
― The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
NBC didn't fire Harmon, Sony did
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
YUP. i think i made that correction itt like half a year ago, whoops
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think there was some hope on Sony's part that they could still get a hit out of this, and that to make it a hit, they'd need to keep Chevy, who they likely figured wouldn't stick around for another Harmon season.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 7 February 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
I got seasons 2 and 3 for Christmas and rewatched them. S2 really was all that great: I even really enjoy the more straightforward episodes that I didn't like as much the first time around, such as "Accounting for Lawyers". In fact, those can sometimes stand out as the funniest. (See also: "Urban Matrimony and the Sandwich Arts" from s3). A lot of s3 is great but "Contemporary Impressionists" and just about everything after Chang takes over the school have not gotten better. I actually skipped "Virtual Systems Analysis" this time around.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 February 2013 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
I think it was mainly to get enough Chevy-episodes for syndication. If they failed at that (they have close eighty episodes, right? is that enough?), then this will probably be seen as one of the dumbest moves by a studio ever.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah. it sucks that it all seems so pointless now. i've never been a giant fan but the commercials so far and that review have me thinking i shouldn't even try.
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
eh, i've stuck it out this long, might as well watch it end
― Nhex, Thursday, 7 February 2013 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/new-community-producers-moses-port-and-david-guarascio-preview-season-4
longish interview w/ the new showrunners. they mostly say the right things but they also kind of come across as the pod people of showrunners.
― Clay, Thursday, 7 February 2013 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
I get why the whole 'Britta forgetting Inspector Spacetime' seems like a trivial complaint on the surface, but this is a show that's gotten a lot of mileage out of callbacks to small details, and if the new showrunners are that inattentive to detail, it certainly doesn't bode well for the tone of the show.
― Fuckleberry Hen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 February 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
OTM. Plus, for all that "Inspector Spacetime" sucked, it was a big part of s3. It is pretty weak, then, for the new creators/writers to overlook that Britta introduced Abed to it in the first place.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 February 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
can't wait for the thinkpieces
― berner herzog (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
I can imagine Britta forgetting what DST is.But I don't see what the problem with that NYT piece is. The writer was pretty accurate in describing Happy Endings (obviously also referring to stuff like New Girl and HIMYM) Those shows are also more popular than Community.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
But the changes in “Community” feel like a total surrender. What the new episodes often resemble is the type of post-“Friends” sitcom that is defined by a jokey solipsism, in which the humor comes not from anything we’d recognize as real life but from the barely distinguishable characters’ constant battle to one-up one another. As it happens, Mr. Guarascio and Mr. Port worked together on one of those shows, “Happy Endings.”
this is super hilarious to me because the escalating gonzo banter on "Happy Endings" closely mirrors the way I interact with my friends
also, if you can't tell the characters on "Happy Endings" or "New Girl" apart, you have issues
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
xp those shows are also critic-approved in a way friends never was. well not HIMYM but i don't think HIMYM really fits in with new girl/happy endings/ben and kate/whatever that show with maya rudolph was
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
Xpost where did anyone say that?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
I can definitely tell the characters from New Girl apart from the characters on Happy Endings
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
also not sure how “Wow, there are 50 years of these, huh?” = not knowing anything about it, maybe there's more to it but that's a weird quote to single out for your review cause that's not at all unrealistic given the situation
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
wait, so previously I was supposed to view 'Community' as something I'd recognise in real life?
― pandemic, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know what anyone's point is anymore
OH THIS THREAD, MISSED YOU SO MUCH
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
Sepinwall not convinced by new episodes either.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
Cue fan backlash against chubby tv critics
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Imo Sepinwall can be really dumb when it comes to comedy, so I'll watch the new episode with an open mind.
― Ulna (Nicole), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
It's directly in the text you quoted, which you then went on to say also applied to New Girl.
My argument is that if you can't get past the common friend language of the characters in these shows to see how they are different and distinct from each other, you have problems.
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
But you said i couldnt tell the difference between characters on new girl and happy endings
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
No, I didn't. "And" is not the same word as "or".
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
And neither means the same thing as "from"
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
Welcome back communtiy
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
There's always so much hostility in this thread! You'd think we were talking about tipping or something.
― Ulna (Nicole), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, tbf, that quote could make perfect sense. I haven't seen the episode yet and wasn't thinking that critically about the actual quote tbh.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
Xpost i was joking about how i misread your post, but i never expected my reward would be a pissy grammar lesson
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
my entire existence on this board is defined by dick jokes and pissy grammar lessons
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
Well Britta directly chose Inspector Spacetime because of it's overwhelming amount of episodes, following the bleak ending of Cougarton Abbey after only six episodes. So that there was 50 years of them should probably be the only thing she knew.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
It depends on the context. It could make sense in e.g. the context of "Wow, this is stupid. They made 50 years' worth of these, huh?"
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
I can see this episode is going to require line-by-line close reading. Maybe we should tweet Gillian Jacobs and get her perspective.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
U&K
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
not terrible so far i give it an 8.1025 let's see if minutes 9 through 22 can keep it above panic level pink
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Friday, 8 February 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
Is it better than "Loveless"?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 February 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
I think that even if I hadn't read 2 or 3 articles that had told me I wouldn't enjoy it I still wouldn't have enjoyed it. Of course, there have been past episodes I didn't like very much for similar reasons. I'm not giving up just yet.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link