The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

i should have known better than to challenge the great consensus record of january 2013 but while i like individual tracks over the course of the record this sounds way more of a piece than a rap record that had what 5 different producers that included tracks recorded for three different projects

its getting near universal love on my twitter feed anyway

well ditto but i can pretty much name every critic who loves it, which is not the same thing as people outside this twitter circle giving a fuck, which they didn't about armor on

nahhhh it's not a consensus record. a bunch of people love it but there are certain people i follow who are kind of bellwethers for consensus hype records (more industry-focused journalists etc) and they don't care at all

yes but you being able to name everyone who likes it doesnt mean that ppl wont all be loving it in 2 mo. after the guilt-tripping thinkpieces about why this is being slept on. i mean, it just went #1 on itunes R&B/soul

to me, this record is cool but in a faint echoes of LTTP way, but where that record had variety, this one sticks to pretty much one overarching feel, imo. LTTP is the record w/ which by comparison this feels 'samey'

idk like i said ... i like it. it just feels premature that everyone is so completely on board from jump

if we're gonna fight about this album i'm gonna need some sandals and a shield, brb

nah all you need is love on your armoured chest

a thousand soldiers against one sword

kinda soon to be running your mouth on this album tbh deej

i already have a sword, it glows when trolls are near

I am pretty sure all of Dawn's releases go to #1 on iTunes

armor on went #1 on itunes r&b too, no?

i've been kinda nervous about what others would think because i've had it for so long w/o being able to talk about it, and it def was not immediate for me, so it's really gratifying that people are on board immediately

it's not really similar enough to LTTP in its aims/sounds/scope for the comparison to really mean much imo - also the whole point of LTTP was the theatrical multiplicity of voices and sounds and perspectives, whereas this is an album from a singular singer-songwritery pov that's specifically designed to be a cohesive work

xps

I was about to say, isn't the whole idea the fact that it's one overarching presentation? It even feels like it, thus my sequencing comments.

the thing about iTunes is they update their sales ranks constantly (hourly?) so if you get a cult rushing the gates when something first drops, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll sell enough throughout the week to do major damage on the Billboard charts. although it would be pretty cool if she does crazy numbers for an independent R&B release.

idk after the last year encouraging critics to get stoked about an R&B record feels like a downhill battle, like, not that miguel & frank arent good but after that jeremih nonsense im kind of like, critics will buy anything

notice im using the word 'battle' in keeping w/ the record's theme

i'm a little mystified by how people who slept on Jeremih's albums bumrushed the mixtape, but i mean it was good music

mmm we already discussed the kind of r&b record critics refuse to get excited about though didn't we

sure well enjoy your cheerleading i feel like this record wont withstand the long term SUPERENTHUSIASTIC CLASSIC scrutiny but more power to you b/c it is a good record. dont feel like its turning my head upside down or anything

nobody even used the c-word you c-word

i would never, ever use the word "classic" about an album in its week of release lol

save that for the kendrick stans

is there a mordy thread you can do this on

imo only lex will have heard this enough by now to validly declare whether it's samey or not, let alone start jumping off into how it relates to its barely embryonic place in the critical landscape

in other words put a sock in it lunatic

@somanyshrimp
reasonably confident that finally rich will ultimately be considered a classic tbh

4:16 PM - 15 Dec 12 ·

yes lex is definitely going to be the voice of reason here

@somanyshrimp
reasonably confident that finally rich will ultimately be considered a classic tbh

― some dude, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw this was about how i think others are going to perceive it at a future date & wasnt my own take on the record

the thing about iTunes is they update their sales ranks constantly (hourly?) so if you get a cult rushing the gates when something first drops, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll sell enough throughout the week to do major damage on the Billboard charts. although it would be pretty cool if she does crazy numbers for an independent R&B release.

― some dude, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, Armor On placed at #145 on the BB200. I think this will do better than that just on account of her having solidified her fanbase but not exactly knocking down the top ten.

also, lol at "LARP&B"

i would never, ever use the word "classic" about an album in its week of release lol

save that for the kendrick stans

― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:00 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no but you said "MASTERPIECE" same thing

on a more substantive note, it's "the proof was in the flood"??

the flood of pudding, obv

i guess that makes sense next to "hurricane"

yeah, I'd always heard that as "in the blood" and still do

"classic" has connotations of standing the test of time, "masterpiece" is a more subjective thing

xp "the proof is in my blood"

lyrics - http://www.slideshare.net/Dawn_Richard/dawn-richard-goldenheart-lyrics

the beginning of the video says "chapter one: the proof was in the flood" though

oh weird so do those official lyrics - the lyric docs the PR sent me say "in the blood"

WHO KNOWS

her lip-syncing looks like "flood" to me. kind of.

abiguity!! 10/10 classic!!

haha

you mean Masterpiece

I always thought she was talking about katrina and the resulting flooding.

yeah that makes sense, with the line about hurricanes coming before it. duhhh @ me

I’ve been searching
Trying to find my way back
My way back to the throne
And I know If I could
climb, crawl, fall
Break these walls
Then maybe I’ll get home
I’m building it up
To break it back down
We’re building it up
To burn it down
We can’t wait
To burn it to the ground

Listening again and the Riot - Gleaux - Pretty Wicked Things section is a real drag, which is weird given they're the bangers, but they've got the sort of dead-eyed detachment you expect from lesser artists/complete hacks.

From 86 to the end is unfuckable with though.

86 heart heart heart

probably the song I'll direct Dawn newcomers to from now on

just the song, not the video

haha yeah

The intro to "Gleaux" is gorgeous.

hahah, there are so many landmines to tip toe when trying to sell Dawn. "no, no, I swear, it doesn't sound like Danity Kane." "Yeah, but that Dirty Money was actually really good though, for real." "Just ignore the Xena warrior princess shit."

She doesn't make it easy.

why would anyone think there's anything wrong with danity kane, dirty money or xena warrior princess?