jacques lu cont: can do no wrong....defend/refute

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There is a JLC remix album coming out later this year on Astralwerks.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link

And wow, that Starsailor remix is awesome.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i love how he takes these solipsistic pop-star-on-a-crucifix songs and tears the shit out of them. goth! the starsailor remix is ace fer shure.

― it's tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"There is a JLC remix album coming out later this year on Astralwerks."

A collection of his remixes or all new? Either way, I kiss you, this is beautiful news.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm guessing it is older remixes, no word on the tracklisting yet.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

that Starsailor remix is the greatest pig's ear -> silk purse transformation EVER. I mean, have you all heard the original?? jesus it's bad!

― haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah there´s something so plodding and overblown about the original, it´s like a train crash in slow motion. JLC´s version is so sleek!

I think you begin to understand Ronan´s point about the importance of remixes lately when you contemplate all these remix collections and the breathless excitement they generate - remixes have always been the bread and butter of dance music but it seems like now more than ever the key players´ reputations are being forged through their remixes.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that JLC remix album is promo'd - there's a clear tracklist theme to the ones I've acquired over the last couple days (inspired by this thread). Last one I listened to was the Grammy winner before I even knew it had won it.

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The intro is so beautiful, like Jacques standing up for DJ Sammy or something.

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim otm, I mean Jacques or Tiefschwarz or Ewan Pearson before them have hardly released a single thing that isn't a remix in their recent spells of popularity.

There's something about it that suggests a healthiness and frenetic side to the scene at the moment, like could artists really be prolific enough if they were releasing all individual singles and not popping up as remixers everywhere? It really allows for an individual sound to emerge, it's a weird phenomenon of the electro-house explosion, though perhaps there are parallels with other points in history or genres, dancehall even?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I am v.into the JLC remix of Juliet's 'Avalon' at the moment (see gmail thread) but perhaps it is terrible, I don't know!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba's work on the gmail thread has done a sterling job for the 'JLC can do no wrong' argument. I have been convinced.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure about the Thin White Duke remix of Fischerspooner's 'Just Let Go', though.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

What I like about JLC is you could get away with playing all his remixes in a row at a house party or something and most people would think you were playing a really great set, mixing popular and cool dance stuff effortlessly. Jacques does it all for you.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i rather like that Gwen remix and i fuckin hate that track so that's really saying something.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

well i mean i the chorus of that song is so horrible i still have to switch it off, remix or no remix. the verses remind me of "somewhere in my heart" by aztec camera, bizarrely enough.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

No - you're right!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

barely a chorus there to hate

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Go here for the video of LRD's "Sometimes", which is still one of the most wonderful music videos I've ever seen:

http://www.thedirectorsbureau.com/

Oh, and Jacques is ace, by the way!

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, that site is a little goofy to navigate. It's under Mike Mills. Ignore all the "security" crap, it's strictly a gag.

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Based on all the remixes I've downloaded and heard today, ridiculously classic. And yes that Faint remix is a killer (and I love me the Faint too, so hey).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the gwen remix is still my favorite, although its the only one i've actually danced to in a party situation so i might be biased. I paid 11 bucks for the vinyl single!

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

that video is fantastic. i can't believe i haven't seen it before

it's strange to think that darkdancer still fits in with the sort of music around now, even though it was released around 10 years ago. I'd never thought that it would be a CD that still gets really great reaction when I dj.

It wasn't that much of a success around the time of the release was it?

― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Refute - his remix of The Music that's doing the rounds on the Gmail exchange thread. Its good to know that some music is so terrible even JLC can't save it - it sounds like Sting. Especially the drum bit at the end.

Everything else = amazing. Including the Killers mix.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I am still in awe of the brilliance of the Starsailor mix. The Gwen Mix is probably #2.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not convinced by the Killers mix, I think it's still too much of a sow's ear for me. no one can deny JLC's er ambition in taking this shit on though.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

He's one of the producers of the new New Order album AND he's going to be remixing them as well.

― Seez, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

was he Paper Faces?

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The recent ones are not as good as the original wave of them, for me, not to be all things were better way back in erm...2002.

my top 10 jacques remixes, I hope I don't forget any!

1. silver screen shower scene
2. hollywood
3. the faint
4. zoot woman-gem (this one is AMAZING in a club, his most banging record ever I reckon)
5. zoot woman-grey day
6. zoot woman-living in a magazine
7. starsailor
8. gwen stefani
9. lrd-sometimes (lrd remix)
10. cassius-my feeling for you (lrd remix)

did I forget any? I think that's pretty comprehensive, a really mixed bag of styles too!

x-post yeah he's Paper Faces too!

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

the paper faces stuff tends to be kind of warm tech house. he's remixed like 3 scissor sisters tracks, the "Laura" one is kind of cool, as is the "Comfortably Numb" one.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Who could forget his triumphant remix of Placebo's 'Pure Morning'???

(actually, I could. Again with the too much sow's ear thing)

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

wait ppl don't like the remix of The Music? I thought shit was killer.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

wasn't his remix of bis' "eurodisco" pretty swish?

― etc, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link

remix for LHOOQ's Losing Hand is a killer, too

― bolloxx, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link

'Losing Hand'!

Mixes for Placebo and Mekon a bit phoned in, but that's all I got so far.

Paper Faces is collaborative, at least according to an mp3 I got - Stuart + 1 Zoot Woman.

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

why all the love for that ce'cile track?
it was the worst thing she's ever featured on - and if you can make her sound dull, you really *are* doing something wrong.
only the kid 606 and ward 21 track on that whole "wall of sound go missionary: trendy london label brings poor, dumb jamaicans, into the 21st century" comp actually worked.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link

can you show us the scientific research on that one

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave Wall of Sound are hardly trendy! I haven't even heard the comp but I suspect you're characterising it unfairly. And I agreed with you on the whole real dancehall/fake dancehall thing.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not as though the artists were forced to work in the Wall of Sound sweatshop for a black crust of bread. presumably they were into the idea.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The love here is seriously tempting me to do a TS/POX: Cornelius as a remixer vs every other remixer.

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

no it's not a trendy label, but they are too cool for school as people and have the attitudes to match.
the vast majority of people did that comp for easy money - and so would i for god's sake.
dancehall artists work every rhythm going, plenty of them ones that they're not feeling too much, so why should that project be any different?
i don't think that x artist having featured necessarily means that they were into it or is an implicit statment of approval, just that it was there to do.
The whole thing was totally clueless - Gee Jam studios is considered a joke in JA and when the likes of Sizzla and Bounty Killer were approached to be, they laughed the idea out of town.
And, Ronan, I don't need to show empirical scientific data to say whether or not a track works or not - I just know.
And this isn't a real/fake dancehallissue, either. Gentleman, a white German, has made on of my fave reggae record this year, voiced on a rhythm made in Cologne (Superior on Pow Pow Productions' Superior Rhythm), Kardinal Offishal, a Canadian, did a great verion of Black Chiney's Kopa rhythm and the mash-up of Spragga Benz over the FWD rhythm is great - it's more an issue of music being crap or not.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

you're the one who said "wall of sound go missionary: trendy london label brings poor, dumb jamaicans, into the 21st century" comp actually worked.

didn't seem to be simply an issue of whether you liked the music or not way back 10 minutes ago.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

also wall of sound as "trendy label" is kind of a stretch

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

they are london media trendies, the lot of them, and i don't take that back.
and it is an issue of "understanding" music, knowing what to do with it and not fucking it up, this making a good and exciting vocalist totally snoozesome!
so, yes, lu cont can do some wrong - especially getting involved with this ill-advised project (which absolutely tanked, btw).
doesn't mean he's not perfectly good when he works within the limited parameters of what he can do.
the kid 606 on worked because he at least has some affinity with the music he was drawing from.
this is totally about music being good or not, but there's always more to this than just the music itself.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a bit like watching two Rottweilers circling one another and wondering which one is going to tear in first.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

that's nonsense. i'm totally calm and happy in the knowledge that i'm right.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

and even if i wasn't (which i am) it's hardly anything to fall out about.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I know, I was just being flippant.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

ffs Matt.

Wall of Sound is surely an ailing untrendy label by now, I think the project was quite light-hearted and never really claiming to be hardcore dancehall, it is called "Two Culture Clash" and to be honest I think the result is just a quirky and slightly odd mash up of some fairly incongruous sounds.

I don't rate the record very highly, alot of it was just boring for me. But I did enjoy one of the Jacques tracks and I thought the Jon Carter one was ok too, to be honest. The Jacques one with the male vocalist fits the quirkiness I mentioned above, it sounded like one of his own productions really.

I don't see the record as greatly cynical or sinister though, most of it sounds like a fairly off the cuff partyish project. I didn't see it reviewed as "real dancehall" either but if it was I can understand how that'd be annoying.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, you say the dancehall artists did it for the cash and cos it was there, I think the same is probably true of most of the Wall of Sound artists.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3SNTpZdFhwo

ayyy

― MPx4A, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

really not feeling the new stuff. too justice.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

would have been huge for me in 2006. still like it. i suppose that's an endorsement.

― le hague, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/tiga/tiga-plush-jacques-lu-cont-4

Woah when he decide to go all ravey again? This is great.

― Matt DC, Friday, 18 January 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Nice.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 January 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

i'm in an i hate fun mood, but this is winning me over a bit.
https://soundcloud.com/tracques/tracques-album-sampler

― andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link

lunartick put me in the mind of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp48QzSerT8

― andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

not quite as dramatic tho

― andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

anyway, yeah, this tracques is a cut above

― andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

i've suddenly had to listen to the mr brightside remix every day for the last week

― mookieproof, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

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