Also, I think Storm's importance to the team has been as marginalized as her role in the X-films of late - she's probably 9th or 10th on the depth chart nowadays. Unless there was some hott Storm action in X-Treme X-Men.
Andrew, where the funk is the obnoxious question in Tuomas' post?
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vic F (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Dan (I Play With Legos (21 Years Ago)) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
One thing I was thinking about is how Marvel has lets it writers fuck over future X-Men writers too much in recent years in spite of the fact that they need enough X-Men characters to carry three titles. Joss Whedon is hogging most of the big names. Mike Carey is forced to turn X-Men into Nu-X-Force. Ed Brubaker has so few options that I can't even begin to imagine who will be on his roster aside from Rachel and Nightcrawler.
All of these established X-Men characters are off-limits:
Jean Grey (dead for the moment)Archangel (was claimed by Claremont for the old Excalibur, currently powerless)Psylocke (claimed by Claremont for future storylines)Banshee (killed by Brubaker)Gambit (will be a Horseman of the Apocalypse, will leave group)Storm (pulled out of the group by editorial to marry Black Panther)Dazzler (used by Claremont in New Excalibur)Jubilee (lost powers)Chamber (lost powers)Northstar (killed by Mark Millar)Sage (used by Claremont in New Excalibur)
It's rather slim pickings! Apparently Havok and Polaris won't be available anymore either. So who is up for grabs? Bishop and Forge, I guess.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Luke is marrying a WHITE WOMAN! -- David R. (quoteidio...), February 1st, 2006. (popshots75`) (later)
might stand out on a casual flick through the thread.
Matthew I was going to say that's nowhere near true about Storm, but then I realised that my exposure to the Xmen over the last five years has been X-Statix and the Morrison/Whedon cast, so I've not really seen her at all.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Mammomax.
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Er.... (I'm being unfair, but still you see my point?)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 2 February 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.comics.org/covers.lasso?SeriesID=2387
The post-Kirby issues look insanely dull. It must be quite a comedown after finding King Solomon's Frog and hanging with the Black Muskateers to end up back in boring old Manhattan fighting boring old Klaw with the boring old Avengers.
― chap who would dare to no longer work for the man (chap), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
In fact, I don't even like the new direction everything is going in. At this rate I might even have to stop reading X-men at the comic book stores anymore.
― Mad, Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
As for those 3 post-Kirby Panther books - Jerry Bingham & Gene Day on the art can't be all bad, but ED HANNIGAN?
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
And if anything, wasn't the interaction between the many mutant comics of the 90s and the rest of the Marvel universe characterized not by segregation but by forced bussing?
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
But during the 80s heyday there would be plenty of MU cameos without it ever overwhelming the books - Cloak and Dagger in New Mutants being a good example, and the whole (excellent) Asgard storyline was of course steeped in Marvelism.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
I have a lot of problems with the mutant persecution angst coexisting with the Avengers and Captain America (particularly the 80s/90s incarnations thereof, who weren't meant to be morally flawed), and with those non-mutant heroes paying nothing but lip service to mutant "tolerance." It's the kind of thing that seems like it would be explained forty years later by Henry Peter Gyrich having the Spear of Destiny.
But I don't like that aspect of the X-books to begin with, so nix or downplay that and I think the neighborhoods can get along just fine.
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Fred Hembeck:
I will say that I created Black Lightning after convincing DC not to publish another "black" super-hero on which they had started work. The Black Bomber was a white bigot who, in times of stress, turned into a black super-hero. This was the result of chemical camouflage experiments he'd taken part in as a soldier in Vietnam. The object of these experiments was to allow our [white] troops to blend into the jungle.
In each of the two completed Black Bomber scripts, the white bigot risks his own life to save another person whom he can't see clearly (in one case, a baby in a stroller) and then reacts in racial slur disgust when he discovers that he risked his life to save a black person. He wasn't aware that he had two identities, but each identity had a girlfriend and the ladies were aware of the change. To add final insult, the Bomber's costume was little more than a glorified basketball uniform.
― kenchen, Thursday, 16 March 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 March 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link