who is Bob Lefsetz?

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that old-school mentality regarding certain values and certain styles of music

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btw his traditional likes are kind of artistically and technologically bankrupt, too

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

he likes amanda palmer's online approach because she works in a more classical mode of composition and live arrangement

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

racism and sexism are timeless and really have nothing to do with whether he likes the Eagles or crowdsourcing or both.

Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

the main way the music industry is stuck in the past is the idea that the heads of music labels, who themselves do not make music or tour at this time, are arbiters of taste and success in the music industry

these are also the only reasons people listen to him, assuming that experience is key over popular appeal and experience of those who regularly tour

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure i said this on another thread, but he's got some kind of cossacks-work-for-the-czar mental error going on. his analysis is that it's "the industry" that's pushing all this bad CD-quality (lol) pop music (at once blander and more aggressive than is ideal) on "the people", who could not possibly like that music really, which is why the business is faltering. but "the internet" will allow new rabble-rouser/hustler types to reach the people directly, resulting in a hopeful return to dominance of AOR/MOR folk-pop with feelings.

goole, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

well said

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

howard talked about this today and mentioned lefsetz. his take was "it was a dance recital more than a musical performance."

you are my capitalism (spazzmatazz), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

beyonce doesn't usually bookend her stadium shows with half a football game either, what the fuck do these guys think they're even talking about

goole, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

They have a classic rock/ rockist mentality combined with sexism, and they like to be provocative. Lefsetz also keeps returning to certain themes of his that do not always make sense-- he suggests that we should never blame ticketmaster or the like for high ticket prices or shows selling out quickly because, according to him, the artist alone deserves the blame for not dictating a lower price to the ticket service and for not coming up with a special method of distribution that will allow more fans than scalpers to get the tickets. I think blame can be shared, but everything seems to be black or white to him.

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't it more of a dance recital than a musical performance tho

you are my capitalism (spazzmatazz), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't it more of a dance recital than a musical performance tho

No, it was not. There were talented musicians up there, performing under what I would imagine were really difficult conditions sound-wise (what's the monitor mix like at the fucking Super Bowl?). But no one's ever gonna talk about them. The guitarist had to shoot fucking sparks out of her guitar to get noticed at all.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

he likes amanda palmer's online approach because she works in a more classical mode of composition and live arrangement

this isn't true, I don't think - Lefsetz's deal is basically to champion the internet as it was understood at the outset of social media, when Myspace was (briefly) the default mode of presentation. He's not terrifically interested in the nature of an artist's composition or their arrangement; he's old-school in the sense that what counts for him is success, hits, asses in seats.

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

talking about the talented musicians behind beyoncé: http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/02/but_what_about_beyonces_band.html

lex pretend, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

what's the monitor mix like at the fucking Super Bowl?

in-ear monitors p. much industry standard now tbqf

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

cool link lex!

goole, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

weren't most of the tracks canned loops? certainly didn't sound live. i assumed the guitarist was playing to a track because of the sparks. then again i didn't watch the performance closely and basically had it in the background...had no idea she had a 10 piece band w her. im just gonna slink into this corner ...

you are my capitalism (spazzmatazz), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Awesome; of a 10-piece band, four get spotlit (but not the drummer, which considering the rhythmic focus of Beyonce's music is a pretty glaring fucking omission), and/but the backup singers get their own YouTube video. Ha.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

the "dance recital" "musical performance" thing is so confusing to me, in what way is dance not a musical performance and iirc the super bowl halftime show used to be like, puppet shows, so where is it written that singing has to take precedence over dance

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

xp the drummer got a few seconds on camera, i only noticed her and the guitarist

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like his embrace of technology is similar to how my parents love the XM radio and USB ports in their cars but only use them to listen to classical stations and ripped CDs of Moody Blues albums.

Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

trying to pretend the super bowl is anything other than a theatrical performance is ridiculous

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

I stand corrected on my take on his interest in seeing traditional songwriting and performance after discovering a tweet about him chilling w/Skrillex's dad: "He's proud. He should be"

mh, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

I hope the MBV album sells a billion copies, forcing this doofus to write some reactionary "kids today" piece.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not like a beyonce super fan or w/e but goddamn what in god's fuck more could you possibly want out of a superbowl halftime show????

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

People playing instruments that you can also masturbate to?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

What's Marah up to these days?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

chillin' in philly

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Oh shut up with your cliches:

And you know what's great about Bourbon Street? The people! They haven't got ugly, lumpy, imperfect people in Los Angeles, they're stopped at the border, like in "The Grapes Of Wrath." But here in Louisiana I came in contact with the real America, one that descends to the southern tip of our country to let loose, because while those on the coast are pursuing their career dreams, those in the middle know it's about having fun, and that's what you do in New Orleans, party.

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 May 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

Sub "Sixth Street", "Texas", and "Austin" in the appropriate places and he probably published the same thing about SxSW.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

Is Lefsetz allowed in any cities by that criteria

mh, Friday, 3 May 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link

They haven't got ugly, lumpy, imperfect people in Los Angeles, they're stopped at the border

http://www.internationalmusicsummit.com/img/speakers/picture/detail/bob_lefsetz-300x300-18.jpg

THIZZ VAN LEER @_@ (lpz), Friday, 3 May 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

did I never drop my Lefsetz is Vizzini science itt?

Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Friday, 3 May 2013 06:47 (ten years ago) link

?

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

please do

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

getting taken by bourbon street in 2013, yeah...

goole, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

His post also described his love for some lame jamband he saw at Jazzfest.

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

it's so weird when ppl say stuff like that i wonder if they've ever been to L.A., there are all kinds of normal looking people in los angeles

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 May 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

Leftsetz lives in L.A. but apparently never looks around or in the mirror

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 May 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

Lesfetz spends all of his time poolside at the Chateau Marmont iirc

tylerw, Friday, 3 May 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

Lefsetz is the drummer for Gay Dad.

m0stlyClean, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Oh hold on... His latest email wasn't even thinly veiled racist diatribe. Let the games commence...

Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link

i saw this one recently and i was just awestruck by how dumb this guy is

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2013/05/10/are-foodies-quietly-killing-rock-and-roll/

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

lol

he is the brains of the music industry, of this I am sure

tweeship journey to 77 (mh), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

it was funny cuz it was someone on twitter who was like "Great stuff from Lefsetz as usual" and I just glanced and assumed it was an ILXor being snarky so I tweeted back "lol" but I think they were being serious :/

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

even better imo

tweeship journey to 77 (mh), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link

"Lefsetz daft punk"
About 47,100 results (0.34 seconds)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link

Howard Stern always goes on and on and on about this dude.

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how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link

Bupkes!

Position Position, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

His instant pronouncements make me wanna do a SNL "really"

And I realized everybody was smoking because I saw them out last night in Piccadilly Circus. I'm used to L.A., where there is no nightlife, where everything interesting is happening at home, and you're not invited. But there's definitely a scene in London, and it's not only there.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link


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