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they obviously didn't think through and rushed a lot of iMessage shit. did you see those reports of some messages going to a phone's former owner? they implemented it via device id rather than signed-in user. lots of weird assumptions.

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

err, rather a phone's former owner's messages going to that phone, rather than their new phone

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

I suppose what bothers me is that the last lost message was a few weeks ago. I'd have been fine if it were initial teething problems, but it's been on the go for what, a year?

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

ya why would they do that

Good user experience?

I have two MacBooks, and I've bought 3 different iPhones. However, my work computer is a PC. I would like to use iMessage, but I use Google Talk since there is no iMessage for PC. There is also no GoogleTalk for iPhone (no real version, with history, syncing with the gmail client, etc.). It would be cool if one of the two companies would get over themselves and get their messaging to work on all three platforms. I guess Google's answer is "buy an Android phone," and Apple's is "don't use a PC at work." Not sure whose is lamer. No ORCAD, Visio, or Allegro on a Mac, so I'm stuck.

And a Google Apps Sync for Outlook on MAc would be nice too, since the Mac mail.app is irreparably broken for me (seriously, I've tried everything).

schwantz, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

The iTunes Store (and the apple store) is actually a bit of a mess too. It is generally solid on the straightforward buy->download scenario but everything else is archaic and junky. Even the new stuff, like Match.

(Related: Apps are still fundamentally treated like music singles on the back end, which is a bit hilarious. And one of the reasons there are still no trials or paid upgrades.)

Xp

stet, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

very true

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, actually you are right. Match kind of only works if you want to work in its scenarios... So for example, I can't populate my iPhone manually (because it's got less storage than match) and then add things using match - I have to delete everything.

Also - manually managing things doesn't work very well all of a sudden (sorry stet, was obv going on about this the other day!)

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

There are totally paid upgrades, though, they're "in-app purchases". Not sure if that's made it to the mac, though.

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that works for new features you can bolt on, but it doesn't work for a full v2 upgrade. It's kinda a hack to get around the store limitations anyway.

stet, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

I am glad ILX doesn't have ANY BUGS.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

If we had $600bn in the bank I bet moving threads between boards would be super-smooth. Probably have an animation on a textured background.

stet, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yes it works not bad, considering I DID IT FOR LOVE.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

three-finger swipe to switch board

the late great, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

sorry for all those times I said I might be able to help and then didn't, guys :(

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Did you? Oh hey don't worry about that! I don't remember anyway!

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

turns out that all that web application programming, deployment, and troubleshooting at work really made me disinterested in doing it outside of work

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I can understand that. I'm actually the opposite. I don't do it at work any more but still love it, so really enjoyed making ILX.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

haha ditto to everything mh said, including the apology (though I'm much more of a middle tier guy)

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

I was quite close to using message queues in ILX by the way... Decided it seemed like overkill. Glad I did!

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

message queuing is super rad but also very tricky in some ways

I know Apple has a lot of work to get it right, but at the same time, it's hilarious to me how many newer web upstarts are scrambling all over the place with MQ-styled things now and learning it when it's old as hell and pretty much the grandchild of what's run every ATM network since... forever

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

not that everyone needs big blue and MQSeries, but... yeah, queuing

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Indeed... All I thought I might've used some kind of free MQ thing for was to serialise new posts to completely avoid database contention. At the time, I had no access to usage information, so had no idea how frequent things might be. In practice, just doing as simple a database update as possible (though I do two tables now, only one back then) was the answer. Updates are really not frequent, so glad I didn't waste time doing queues.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I think a lot of people are doing key/value caches and replicating them back to a DB these days

iirc ilx code does a lot of memory caching of objects?

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

It does, very aggressively, in that the cache is actively updated (i.e. at the same time as the database), so threads like this are always read from memory. Half of the accesses are 100% in memory (the other half are googlers who naturally pollute the cache and need to be read from the database).

To be honest, if we'd had cloud infrastructure and the memory we have these days, I wouldn't have bothered with caching at all. Just designing the database well enough (to make 90% of the accesses clustered index reads) would have been enough.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'd probably have been a bit more standardly lazy and just done aggressive object caching via Spring mapping the db, along with the indexing

framework framework framework

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yes I deliberately avoided any ORM stuff. My head was (and still is at) stateless stateless stateless. Except of course the cache, but that's a special type of state - one that can be centralised and that operation doesn't depend on. It's the functional programming thing. It's all just servlets. No session state. Very easy to understand because there are minimal interactions between different operations.

Keith, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

this is reminding me of a silly ilx-related project idea I had

but back on topic, when the heck am I getting a retina iPad mini damn it.

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

can we implement up-middle-finger swipe for suggest ban

do you even frogbs? (cozen), Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

mh, I'm wondering the same thing. I will preorder one. Hoping 6-18 months.

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

Should have my 27" iMac by this time next week.

Dr. Alfred P. Falfa (WilliamC), Thursday, 7 February 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Got our hands on a 27" iMac today. Lovely thing, but the screen is still hella shiny, the calibration is way off and the whole thing too bright for proper repro work :-(

Have you calibrated it? Just run through the "calibrate" options in System Prefs>Displays>color. Beyond that, spend some money on a calibrator. Monitors are never that good out of the box, but Apple uses pretty decent IPS screens and you should be able to get good results. But for proper repro work you should be using a proper monitor!

http://www.eizo.com/global/solutions/graphics/index.html

dan selzer, Thursday, 7 February 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

i saw a blog post recently (possibly one of the nerdy iphone dev blogs i read, but i have a horrible feeling it might have been gruber or sth) where the guy was saying the one thing that keeps him awake at night as someone who has invested his career in apple, and should be keeping apple awake at night, is the fact that they clearly have no one who understands sync

caek, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

that blog post was otm

caek, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

you don't need to sync everything will be in the cloud

yay cloud

mh, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

ok sync = internet for the purposes of this argument

caek, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

btw that was complete sarcasm, 100% of the stuff I work on for my job these days involves data sync services for an audience that has slow ass internet connections or even work disconnected

mh, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

dropbox 4ever

eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 8 February 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

if these iWatch reports are true feel like apple is really jumping the shark

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

it's really unclear to me whether or not wearables are just going to be a niche market or not

markers, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I will be looking forward to the markers report on wearables in 2013

mh, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://missingbite.com/picts/tn.retrowatch.jpg

stet, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

feels like apple had a meeting where they were like 'what other common conventional markets can we REINVENT. where can we INSTILL DESIRE INTO THE CONSUMER.' and somebody said watches and maybe it was aronud the time that kickstarter for the ipod nano wearable wristwatch thing was taking off. what a bad idea

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

like probably a lot of apple's success so far has been adding luxury or status-symbol value to markets where there previously was none? laptops, phones, desktop - get rid of that ugly biege garbage can, replace with this ultra sleek and expensive looking aluminium sex machine.

but I dunno if I see banker dudes leaving their patek phillipes at home so they can show off the iWatch.

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

thought I read that it could hold passwords for your apple devices, so you wouldn't have to type "bondage007shadesofgrey" all the time anymore

Euler, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

that functionality could be put right in the iphone and/or ipad too though

markers, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

but I dunno if I see banker dudes leaving their patek phillipes at home so they can show off the iWatch.

― 乒乓, Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:39 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I aint a banker dude but no way am I ditching any of my Nixons for a lol iWatch

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but I guess it could add a layer of security, so that if someone stole your phone but didn't get your watch, then they couldn't access your data

fuck a watch obi

Euler, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if people looking at their watches all the time will be better or worse than people pulling out their phones and looking at them all the time

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

real talk

mh, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

people being annoying in public needs disruption

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link


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