The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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i drive a lot :(

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:22 (seven years ago) link

there's like whole segments of rap and r&b that are primarily meant to be heard while driving! (obv goldenheart is not in this category)

The Reverend, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:07 (seven years ago) link

cars are like THE ideal place to experience a ton of music, way more defensible to do most of your listening in a car than on earbuds or whatever

BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:13 (seven years ago) link

srsly. fuck earbuds forever.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:14 (seven years ago) link

obv the car is the best place to listen to the radio but it's loud and your speakers are shitty please uninstall that cd changer now

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:17 (seven years ago) link

please c/p the post where I repped for earbuds? I agree that people should take their apple earbuds and deposit them straight into the trashcan

otoh if you've never listened to your favorite song on a nice IEM then idk if you're really into music http://i.imgur.com/ap8ek8v.jpg

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:19 (seven years ago) link

like, do you listen to music or do you just skim through it

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:19 (seven years ago) link

The car is the only place where I listen to radio for more than three minutes but, yeah, I loathe my portable CD player and its tape adapter.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:20 (seven years ago) link

"frequency" might be dawn's best song

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:21 (seven years ago) link

thank u ilx for turning me on to this album btw
it is awesome.

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 05:51 (seven years ago) link

i pretty much got into rap music through driving. 100% the best environment to listen to it.

tpp, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 10:04 (seven years ago) link

dunno how soundproof cars generally are but any situation where there's background noise competing with the music (and drowning out bits of it) is suboptimal

lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 10:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA

xp

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 12:37 (seven years ago) link

i pretty much got into rap music through driving. 100% the best environment to listen to it.

especially on tape. I still own a Wu solo comp a friend made in the late nineties.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:35 (seven years ago) link

I'm much more likely to click with an album if I listen to it while driving. I usually make a point of listening to any album I review in the car at some point (esp. if it's rap) since it gives me better perspective.

That's part of the reason streaming promo copies are such a bummer; I can't subject the album to the car test.

Evan R, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:27 (seven years ago) link

haha i do the same but for headphones listening (either while walking or on quiet public transport)

i think i know maybe two people who can drive

lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:31 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"northern lights" -> "frequency" -> "warfaire" -> "in your eyes" -> "goldenheart"

my commute to the hospital typically takes exactly this long

k3vin k., Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:56 (seven years ago) link

Totally forgot about this album, and for as much as I listened to it in January, I don't remember much about it at all. But I think that might be a good thing. I'm excited to re-listen to it again in a few months with completely fresh ears and see if it sticks the second time around

Evan R, Friday, 8 March 2013 01:06 (seven years ago) link

k3vin otm. I listened to that exact sequence on my commute the other day. In general I think this is best heard in smaller chunks.

rob, Friday, 8 March 2013 03:52 (seven years ago) link

back end, excepting the title track, feels weak to me

the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 March 2013 08:32 (seven years ago) link

She put up two new songs on her Soundcloud page a couple of days ago:

https://soundcloud.com/dawn_richard

longneck, Friday, 8 March 2013 09:56 (seven years ago) link

Weird how everyone takes home different things from this album, because I still think the back end is by far the strongest section.

Kevin's selection is great though (although I love Break of Dawn and 86 as well). Sequencing on this album is kind of bad though, I like Frequency and Warfaire but you really don't need Tug of War AND Ode To You after them, I can barely remember what the latter two sound like within minutes of having listened to them, so the overall effect is just of a glut of the same type of song.

I wish they had a better editor though, listening to this as a whole I'm reminded of rock bands on their third or fourth album who are so keen to appear 'epic' or 'important' they lose some of the spark that made them great in the first place.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 March 2013 09:58 (seven years ago) link

This is another album where everyone disagrees on which are the great tracks, which are middling and which should be culled (except perhaps for "Frequency" which seems to have consensus support). Clearly the problems are more structural than song-specific.

Tim F, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:21 (seven years ago) link

I might be the only person who prefers Warfaire to Frequency, I was kind of bemused as to why people were so down on the former a few weeks ago. The problem that structure won't solve is the heavy-handedness of some of the bangers.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:27 (seven years ago) link

(NB the main question that's been running through my head throughout this thread is 'would Lex like Game of Thrones?')

Matt DC, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:28 (seven years ago) link

Haha now I also will obsess over this question.

I feel at least Lex would be sympathetic to the trials and tribulations of Daenerys.

Tim F, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:37 (seven years ago) link

What is Game of Thrones? If it's TV, I don't watch TV

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Friday, 8 March 2013 11:03 (seven years ago) link

not sure thrones' t&a level would get past lex's rap internet chauvinism policing

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:16 (seven years ago) link

You mean it wouldn't be high enough?

I'd hesitate to say this album wouldn't exist were it not for Game of Thrones, because Dawn's nerding out spectrum is far far broader than that, but maybe not in quite the same form.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:38 (seven years ago) link

Dawn needs some baby dragons.

Tim F, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:43 (seven years ago) link

Ha ha - you know she knows it too.

longneck, Friday, 8 March 2013 12:57 (seven years ago) link

Glad other people like Warfaire. One of my favorites as well. Along with Return of a Queen, 86, Frequency, Northern Lights.

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:20 (seven years ago) link

"86" is still the only song on this I love :/

radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Friday, 8 March 2013 13:24 (seven years ago) link

'ode to you' still knocks hardest for me. like i mean actually too, it's a powerful lowkey headbanger

i really love that natural-mechanical washing machine rhythm swaying under it, like it has this inverted musique concrete steez where tying pure sound back to the world of things gives it a philosophical realness, a sense of life's drift

of course alternatively you could hear it as dawn pausing for thought before some 19th c steampunk contraption in a desert-hot western prairie

"oh ain't nobody like you that's why i fux with you baby" hits so hard i can't even really describe, just sweeps all circumspection aside

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:55 (seven years ago) link

i totally forgot about that ldn gig last month, lex did u attend

also teedra last week :/

i should really get out the house sometime

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 14:14 (seven years ago) link

"'86" also the only song I love, though the three-song stretch from it to "Break of Dawn" is the only part where listening to this album doesn't make me feel antsy.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:03 (seven years ago) link

I don't mean this question to be as loaded as it probably seems, but does anybody here like this album more than Armor On?

Evan R, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:12 (seven years ago) link

me, maybe

some dude, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:16 (seven years ago) link

i do, by a damn sight.
basically i can do the intro up to ode to you anytime and i've pretty much blocked 86/in your eyes/break of dawn/300
the gabriel cover is particularly :/ for me

the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:21 (seven years ago) link

I don't even prefer this to Whiteout tbh.

radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:32 (seven years ago) link

I don't mean this question to be as loaded as it probably seems, but does anybody here like this album more than Armor On?

― Evan R, Friday, March 8, 2013 10:12 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah me too

k3vin k., Friday, 8 March 2013 15:51 (seven years ago) link

armor on = tell tale heart > goldenheart >>>>> whiteout

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:15 (seven years ago) link

but whiteout was just a lil whatever thing anyway so v unfair to even rank in company

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I get the feeling I'm the only one here who likes Whiteout as much as I do.

radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Tell Tale Heart was pretty minor imo -- i'm still a little amazed by the enthusiasm it inspired in this thread's genesis

some dude, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

I repped for whiteout too rev!

乒乓, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:19 (seven years ago) link

tell tale heart, you dont even know

乒乓, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:19 (seven years ago) link

tell tale heart was magnificent

tbh though the issue of appreciation that concerns me really is not where u rank goldenheart in dawn's oeuvre but in r&b and whatnot today generally

ie even if its tremendous reach may exceed its grasp there still aint no reason for brattish mewling

r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:28 (seven years ago) link

i totally forgot about that ldn gig last month, lex did u attend

also teedra last week :/

i should really get out the house sometime

― r|t|c, Friday, March 8, 2013 2:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

having been out of the house all day today let me reassure you there is literally no earthly reason right now to leave it, ever. fucking disgusting out there

i did attend, anyway (and i also missed teedra) - it was just a lil 4-song showcase and we had to sit through a million TERRRRIBLE wannabes before dawn because no one could tell me what time she was on. she's coming back in april for proper full gigs i believe. also when she came over she was really ill (i interviewed her earlier that day and she couldn't even get through that without throat sweets) - huge trooper kudos for getting through just 4 songs

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Friday, 8 March 2013 17:12 (seven years ago) link

lol "throat sweets" http://i.imgur.com/6L9JtP2.gif?1

radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Friday, 8 March 2013 17:15 (seven years ago) link


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