I HATE APPLE

^^ first lines of your novel

i asked siri for directions to heathmont railway station. after the third try it said it couldn't find 'sheath launch railway station'. i typed 'heathmont railway station' into maps and it took me to a railway station that was not heathmont railway station.

at this point i am very genuinely unsure how apple manages to scratch its arse without falling over

there's an app for that.

What are the chances they'll relent and make "Open in Google Maps" and option when clicking on a address?

Never

Maybe it's because Apple is a Bay area company, but Apple Maps is actually pretty cool for local stuff here.

yeah it's not bad in san diego, still not as good as google maps

It's great in South Africa…BUT I'M IN BROOKLYN.

i finally upgraded to io6 on my iphone 4 and i don't know if it's smoke and mirrors but safari feels like it's been optimized up the wazoo

i also realllly like the weird little pull-down animation for reloading that you see in mail

yeah seems like safari is waaaay faster than chrome

Safari is definitely way faster than Chrome; Chrome (and other third-party apps providing browser views) doesn't have access to the optimized javascript engine that Safari uses.

so any third-party browsers on iPhone will be less fast by design.

there is a jailbreak hack to make all browsers on iOS use the same Js engine. makes chrome awesome.

Still hesitating whether to upgrade my old iPhone 4 to iOS 6. Still worried it will turn into a piece of slow ass junk overnight

iOS 6 is great IMO. The only bad aspect is no integrated google maps but otherwise I do not regret upgrading

yeah, it's boring like a cardigan but does the job

like a cardigan

Safari is definitely way faster than Chrome; Chrome (and other third-party apps providing browser views) doesn't have access to the optimized javascript engine that Safari uses.

fairly certain this is not true

Yeah it is -- only Safari gets the JIT compiler.

ah n/m, ignore me

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/07/30/nitrous/

btw I'm a moron and thought that some jailbreak thingy was screwing up my battery life and I updated to an unjailbreakable version ;_;

oh wait, it looks like they have it figured out

had my first apple maps snafu last weekend

staying at a friend's house in a remote area, was sent on an errand to the closest shopping destination, walmart, ugh. surprisingly walmart did not have everything we needed, so I searched apple maps for the nearest kmart. it directed us 10 minutes away on the highway and when we pulled up in front of a weed-ridden lot filled w/ fresh dumpsters, it proudly announced 'you have arrived at kmart'. consulted google maps, which took us right back to where we came from, and lo and behold THE KMART WAS PHYSICALLY CONNECTED TO THE WALMART like you didn't even have to go outside, there was a side exit inside the walmart, you walked down a mall hallway and right into kmart. didn't notice it the first time due to angle of buildings and lack of signage but good gravy apple wtf

Yeah. My work buddy and I ended up in a cul-de-sac in a trailer park (hand to God) when we were trying to get to a Vietnamese restaurant on a major boulevard in Fremont (CA, half-an-hour from Apple HQ) the other day.

I tried the turn-by-turn the other day from the middle of London, and when I started it, it decided I shouldn't start from where I was but instead some other place half a mile away. Getting to the starting point was left as an exercise for the driver. Fucking Apple.

if you hit the little arrow at bottom left on the screen it should reorient to yr current position?

Yeah, it knew where I was (it had me on the right road, which was public), but the only instruction it would give was "proceed to start" indicating a point some way away. I cancelled out and tried again, no dice. Bizarre

install google maps

the concept of a Wal-Mart and KMart being connected to each other is really bizarre

separated by a wal

"Mr. Walton, tear down this wal!"

My conspiracy theory is that Apple put out a half-ass Maps app so that they could stop paying Google for their data. Now that there is a good Google maps app on the iPhone, Apple gets it for free. They only have to keep a barely-credible alternative going, and they don't have to pay for map data (or roll trucks everywhere), or all of the network bandwidth that a mapping application requires. After all, APPLE SELLS HARDWARE. Everything else is done in service of that goal. You think they want to do cloud services? Or office software?

I thought it was weird enough when there was a Target inside the mall.

I have seen Target anchors and yeah it is indeed kinda weird. Best Buy too.

the concept of a Wal-Mart and KMart being connected to each other is really bizarre

― frogbs, Thursday, April 4, 2013 5:44 PM (2 hours ago)

this was the weirdest part of the experience for me as well

Do the mall BestBuys still have those bald-headed security guys with the headsets, this time protecting the egress out to the Pretzel King?

They only have to keep a barely-credible alternative going

I installed Google Maps as soon as it was released and have barely ever opened it, it turns out -- I just use the native one.

All I use. Haven't opened apple maps since.

If it was native I'd be all over it, though I still use it regularly. Apple maps was responsible for me being 15 minutes late to a job interview.

Google maps is great. Has replaced my garmin in the car.

The mall that is totally dead here now had a Target anchor store in their grand remodel of 1992. All part of living a state south of their hq, I guess.

unchill thread title

We hate because we care

Apple maps was responsible for me being 15 minutes late to a job interview.

This is crazy. YOU were responsible for being 15 minutes late for a job interview.

FWIW Apple maps seems OK in London though I use the A-Z app most of the time which is light years better that either it or Google maps. Lotta rose-tinted thinking about Google maps. Visually it's always been terrible, with very little distinction between main roads, side roads, etc. (I never use turn-by-turn directions, though - maybe in this it's superior. But the most efficient directions are those somebody gives you imo)

IDK what UK maps are supposed to look like, but Google Maps reads great IMO - interstates, highways, arterial streets, and side streets are easy to distinguish at a glance.

And Apple Maps' search is fuuuucked (I've had problems like it not understanding "Hotel Whatever" b/c the correct name was "Whatever Hotel" and giving me 0 results (even suggestions) b/c I searched for "3000 N. Ashland" instead of "3000 N. Ashland STREET."

Or when I was looking for a sporting goods store near me. It claimed there were NONE, but Google Maps found several w/in a couple miles.

Not to mention Apple's misguided application of their devotion clean, serene minimalism in eliminating names of landmark buildings and businesses. A spare, "uncluttered" presentation is inferior to one than that shows me a couple labels so I know I'm near the courthouse and Macy's.

what I hate about both apple and google's maps is that if you try to scroll the map the navigation quits and you've got to restart it

I don't like that with both, when I try to pinch or unpinch in a certain way, it switches to compass mode.

Do the one finger pinch trick. Double tap and hold, move finger up and down to zoom in and out.