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― Tobias Rapp, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Detroit Techno could only come from Detroit. Chicago House could only come from Chicago. UK Hardcore could only come from the UK. Sheffield Bleep could only come from Sheffield. Memphis Soul from Memphis. New Jersey House from New Jersey. Eurodance from Frankfurt. Italo Disco from Italy (and some other places). Munich Disco from Munich.
I really don't understand what there is to be won in claiming a certain music developped at a certain place and a certain time. It did. So what?
― Tobias Rapp, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i came to say this thread sunk from being a celebration of wonderful music that has touched us into some pedantic petty bullshit, but then 24 unagi plaza came and said the same with much better words.
― elan, Saturday, 28 June 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
anyways - soul ii soul 'african dance'! dope!
― elan, Saturday, 28 June 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link
it's so slow
ok so i listened to contact special again and it is excellent so i need to amend my comment upthread.
the narrative arc is abduction/levitation/lift-off (first half or so) followed by struggle, inquisitiveness and finally, a kind of acceptance or contentment (not acquiescence). the music is mostly economical mills (if you want to talk comme des garçons, rei kawakubo's mottos are "strength" and "never repeat yourself"; mills' might also be strength and a kind of refinement through repetition and deep knowledge of his reduced musical tools.) the sonic palette is is mostly 909s and trademark millsian synth leads (the phrasal stuff i gush about), but there are a few housier cuts/cut-ups. nothing feels as willfully portentous as some of the soundtrack work and the album does really flow together contrary to my "it would work better as the singles" comment. it would have been exciting to collect the singles as there's a kind of chapter aspect to the flow.
― tricky, Sunday, 29 June 2008 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link
my friend was at that jeff mills talk at Sonar and apparently he genuinely believes the age of aquarius is going to arrive in 2069. and that techno is paving the way for it.
― good dog, Sunday, 29 June 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Right now I have an overwhelming urge to listen to Timewriter...
― mmmm, Sunday, 29 June 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
This review of Sonar over at FACT FACT amused me. Proves that the Detroit camp are capable of spouting just as much bull as Richie and his minus cohorts:
The other big deal on the first proper Sónar by Night was M—nus Records presents Contakt. I’m not sure anyone who wasn’t actively involved knew everything that was going on, but the basic premise was that Magda, Gaiser, Troy Pierce, Mark Houle and Heartthrob rotated between their laptops, a bit like when you played round the world table tennis at school, and Richie Hawtin made new tunes up from different bits of their tunes on his cube. It was total Computer World, a bit like when Hot Chip make the songs up in front of you, but a thousand times more grandiose, space age and camp, right down to the outfits in the promo shots. Compare it to Jeff Mills and Mike Banks the next night, whose X-102 return was billed as ‘a conceptual tour de force which explores all the aspects of this mysterious planet (Saturn), including its rings and moons, at the classic co-ordinates of UR’ and actually resulted in a guff performance (Mills reckons that for electronic music to develop ‘we need to stop dancing, it gets in the way’), and it’s clear which techno luminary's having more fun with his vast amounts of spare time.
― sam500, Monday, 30 June 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Mills reckons that for electronic music to develop ‘we need to stop dancing, it gets in the way’
FFS x 10,000,000,000,000
― J@cob, Monday, 30 June 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I was about to duck in and ask where just really enjoying dancing to music comes in, and I think that just got non-answered in brave new ways
― mh, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Proves that the Detroit camp are capable of spouting just as much bull as Richie and his minus cohorts
c'mon you must've read some D May quotes from '89-'90?
but i wish we could talk more about specific old tracks here and what makes them so distinctly great (inc technical/musical talk, usually fun to geek on), as opposed to this wider picture stuff which is pretty circular
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Start it!
― Raw Patrick, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
(not meant to sound snide or anything--you know I always like what you have to say).
― Raw Patrick, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm including myself in that 'we', sadly
― blueski, Monday, 30 June 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3242075/The-Disco-Handbook
― Display Name, Monday, 30 June 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
well okay let's talk joy here: i put 'girl from botany bay' on my ipod shuffle, and it came on when i was in a shit mood, and i was elevated all over again.
also, i've been listening to Lindstrom again because of the new album. and i can't decide whether he's a totally amazing one-trick pony or has actually progressed quite a bit in the last few years.
― the table is the table, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow, thank God I was away last week. . .
either way the environmental mix on this kills. Lovely house tool which may or may not sample Koyanisqatii, got it for a dollar last winter and it's great to put on top of everything.
― mehlt, Saturday, 5 July 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
From the Beatport sample you're damn right. Good find.
Basic Channel just released its second CD of BC stuff. Not sure if that's noteworthy or not.
― littlewhiteearbuds, Sunday, 6 July 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
not really sure where to bobbins this but in chicago a couple songs that seem huge around here from the past couple years maybe? or maybe older. im bad with years. anyway these get played on all kinds of radio stations around here, and im wondering why theres no mention of for example:
craig loftus - jimmy boom
or other tracks like the house edit of natalie cole "tell me all about it," or green velvet's "shake and pop" which are so superhuge in chicago but dont really get posted about and im kinda unsure where to post about them anyway
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry thats spelled 'loftis' but still
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link
and song title is technically 'jimmy go boom' but still
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link
its a james brown edit and theres a sample here http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF267750-01-01-01.mp3 but u have to copy and paste the link
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:23 (fifteen years ago) link
im digging this a lot http://www.slide.com/r/IE4DJiKavD-DgKDazmUvsqT9ZtNcusJC?previous_view=lt_embedded_url
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
unfolding with an electricity that's--forbid the sacrilege--Dylanesque.
doesnt he mean 'forbid the cliche'
― deej, Sunday, 6 July 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link
oops rong thread
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3242075/The-Disco-Handbook-- Display Name, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:47 AM
-- Display Name, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:47 AM
― haitch, Monday, 7 July 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Deej have you heard the Gant Man version of Green Velvet's "Walk"???!?!?!!
― Tim F, Monday, 7 July 2008 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link
can someone help me with a track id... and this is going to be a pretty vague description... zip played it at panoramabar on friday towards closing. very emotional\detroit sounding, epic pad sweeps, then an extended coda section with a voice repeatedly saying something along the lines of "you can hit me, you can hurt me, but still... i have a dream". anybody??
― resolved, Monday, 7 July 2008 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link
nah i hadn't but that sounds great! gant-man DJs every saturday at one club til 5 AM in chicago though, ive heard him spin a couple times but i really need to go back - the place is right in my old neighborhood and aside from a rough crowd its pretty cool - not a huge club or anything and a good mix of rap and house and dancehall etc
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ yelp reviews for the venue though:
07/06/2008
Ugh! Is all I can say about this place.
If you are into coochie popping and reenacting the scene from SNL with the Roxy Boys then go here. Seriously it was sad to see so many men bumping and grinding one girl. Then again these women are so desperate they allow that. Such class! Imagine flies on a poop and you will have this place.
Say whatever you want. This place is nasty. One star is too much in my opinion. Nice staff though.
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― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Lulz that has always been my suspicion about juke/ghettotech kinda places...
― J@cob, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
they do get a fair number of women actually but its def got a piranha feeding frenzy vibe when the girls hit the floor
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link
oh and btw tim when i said 'that sounds great!' i did mean i hunted down a sample and listened! it sounds real smooth for juke stuff
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Could be Mike Grant's 'The Struggle of My People' on Moods & Grooves, probably the Mr.G mix. It's got a sample of Maya Angelou reciting her poem 'I Rise' on it
http://www.juno.co.uk/products/1217685-02.htm
― sous les paves, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link
nice
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
eurgh was trying to post this in chicago house thread on noise board but im still banned because zzz so i'll post it here in response to vahid:
"i'm satisfied is getting remixed and played out all over the place here, my copy is the underdog edit version, theres also a dj emmanuels remix off that dj pharris legends of house vol. 1 mix i posted about on the bobbins thread"
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link
is that a pretty good representation of the party scene in chicago?
(cause those people in the vid are old!)
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link
although to be fair most people at west coast house events are about my age and older, i.e. 30+
the vid in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toRig6S5JZM
its a pretty good representation of a fair portion of the scene. Young people are into rap music and juke stuff, a lot faster bpms, or R&B. That said - when they would do free shows in grant park for summerdance, you would get a good cross section, a decent number of kids (as in actual children, they were all-ages events), a lot of latino teenagers, scatterings of white 20-40somethings and then the demographic from that video, like 30-50 yr old black ppl.
when i saw frankie knuckles @ green dolphin this past weekend, it was a lot like that vid except more gay
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a lot of respect for that scene from younger kids though ... dj pharris, who did that 'house classics' set i was talking about, is the main rap dj at power 92 here in the city. house music (like the james brown edit) gets played on power 92 on a daily basis. As do the other house tracks i mentioned, like the natalie cole remix. dj pharris just released this (pretty great) song with r kelly, fat joe, busta rhymes and fabolous: http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=22605
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link
pharris usually sticks to rap music at the radio station though, they have boolumaster spin house 'classics' like the vid you posted, and then dj nehpets does the juke stuff
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link
one of the things that was kinda annoying about the press that juke stuff gets is that it doesnt put it in any kind of context with respect to the house music this is coming out of ... just more 'gutter beats'
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:42 (fifteen years ago) link
what an amazing party ... can't get enough of these video clips
what the version of "is it all over my face" at the end of this vid??
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link
now wait a minute
― elan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link
if you were going to yield to temptation, then why'd you fall for me?
no, you listen...
― elan, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 06:37 (fifteen years ago) link
"HELL YEAH"
That's great. I wish I knew which version it was...
― J@cob, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Interview with Geir Hongro.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link