It was definitely early 2000, January or February, aye.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Wiki says January 31st.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
this got to #3 in the album charts which almost makes me feel nostalgic for a better time, even if it scarcely seemed that way then
― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Keep your dreams" got robbed.
― Ross, Thursday, 1 September 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link
No other albums captures the lunacy of the Bush/Blair/Harper years like this. A stunning achievement they just gets better with time.I also love the b-side from this era, "When the Kingdom", which features Paul Weller.
― beamish13, Friday, 2 September 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link
keep your dreams FTW
― Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
also not sure a song has been more aptly titled than accelerator, it is like hitting the nitros and blasting off
― Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
I always liked the rap on Pills because I assumed he was rapping about himself, like the spoken word bit on 'The Professional' by Pulp
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 August 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link
absolute blinder, one of the best live tv appearances ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5P3xQeN2YA
― piscesx, Saturday, 11 August 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link
this is a live set on bbc radio just after the release that is a useful reminder of how formidable they were as a band at that time... https://soundcloud.com/visit-drum/sets/xtrmntr/s-tbnLe
― matt h, Saturday, 11 August 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link
XTRMNTR is a great record, but I find myself reaching for Vanishing Point more and as said in the other Primal Scream thread, I think More Light is up there with their best albums. I listen to all these far more than Screamadelica.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 08:37 (five years ago) link
Amazing concert on that tour (with K. Shields)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 11 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
Will rep, as i always do, for the criminally underrated live album post Evil Heat - one of the few live records I play regularly: https://img.discogs.com/8Iw_5E8DHp1p9iNe9k4rBEDvqfo=/fit-in/599x547/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-338842-1264294182.jpeg.jpg
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 11 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
Primal Scream have always been terrible whenever I've stumbled across them at festivals except on the XTRMNTR tour when they were incredible, partly because the lineup was packed with ringers and you got the sense they were actually making the music Bobby Gillespie heard in his head and not just a weak simulacrum of it. I remember a ridiculously heavy version of Kowalski.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 August 2018 09:02 (five years ago) link
It's such a big shame 'Rocks' was such a big hit, because I feel like it gave a lot of people the wrong impression about this band and perhaps stopped 'em from going on to check out Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 12 August 2018 09:12 (five years ago) link
Yes because no one would have been familiar with obscure curios like 'Loaded', right?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 August 2018 09:31 (five years ago) link
Ha, I knew someone was going to say that - and I'm not at all surprised by who eventually said it - but y'see, Matt, I'm not talking about music geeks (it's understandable that some here may think that's the only type of music fan there is) - I'm not talking about people who were reading the NME religiously at the time or keeping up with what was going on with the Mercury Music Prize.
'Loaded' was actually not that big of a hit. 'Rocks' was a Top 10 hit and got more airplay than any of the Screamadelica singles. I think a lot of people - and I'm sure there were many unfamiliar with the band even by this point - could be forgiven for thinking the Scream circa 1994 were some crap glam/Stones knockoffs rather than the inventive band they actually were. Bobby Gillespie's personality also probably didn't help.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 12 August 2018 11:40 (five years ago) link
Whether it was a big hit or not doesn't matter, sometimes records are just 'in the air' and 'Loaded' was definitely one of those.
In any case I'm sceptical that there are many casual listeners out there who had otherwise never heard of Primal Scream, would have missed all the Screamadelica singles, heard 'Rocks' on Radio 1 or Capital (where it didn't get much airplay anyway), or on a Now compilation they bought in Tesco, and would have been sufficiently put off by it that they never checked out the (much noisier and weirder) Vanishing Point or XTRMN8R, which they would definitely have enjoyed if only they hadn't been put off by the karaoke Stones record from a few years before.
You cannot exclude music nerds from the equation and then claim the remaining listeners might have gone for two albums that were pretty much consciously designed to appeal primarily to music nerds.
('Kowalski' was a Top 10 hit as well fwiw)
― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 August 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
yeah chart placings aside loaded was absolutely a huge hit that was everywhere at the time.
― visiting, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
you know i went back to this one a few weeks ago and had trouble getting into some of the more beat oriented tracks ("kill all hippies", "exterminator") because the loops weren't doing it for me. they sounded really thin and lethargic compared to what i remebered. on the other hand the more rock-oriented ones ("accelerator", "shoot speed / kill light", "mbv arkestra") still sounded great.
― the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
i'm not opposed to trip hop either, i listen to lots of it. those loops just ... weren't that good.
speaking of good trip hop though i also really enjoyed "pills"
― the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link