House Of Cards TV Series

btw, the cheney connection I mentioned upthread is that cheney also headed up the vp selection process and then ultimately selected himself, didn't he?

yup! cheney was the first thing I thought of when they used that plot idea

My take is that while the watershed bill was conceived mostly as just a pawn on Frank's chessboard, as he tells us, he hates being wrong. He's the Whip, and his ability to get the whip count right is why he's the whip. Regardless of its importance to his plan, he is capable of being distracted by a little thing like losing a vote.

It's either a supermassive plot hole, or it'll come out in S2 that Frank dbl-xd his wife and meant for the bill to crash and burn.

silby otm, I think

why did it end like that, seems like they left some stuff hanging

what was weird is that they didn't necessarily leave it in a bad place plot wise, but it was soooo poorly executed that it felt like they did.

yeah like maybe if the final scene had been the vp announcement and you know the slugline investigation is hanging over his head

also how they refer to it as slugline dot com is so unrealistic no one has had dot com in their name since like 2002

It was a strangely underplayed cliffhanger.

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/21/house_of_cards_is_bogus/

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I heard real community colleges aren't like what you see on Community

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it seemed so realistic!

I think you have to suspend a lot more disbelief to watch and enjoy HoC (which I still enjoyed btw, but I can see why Kornacki who is pretty immersed in national political scene wouldn't) than you do to watch and enjoy Community.

Most (all?) Political dramas from RIII onwards have been allegorical morality plays, HoC is no different.

HoC trying to have it both ways though: allegorical morality play AND real behind the scenes DC power-brokering.

i really dont think its trying to be realistic, i hope not

lol Veep is prob more realistic tbh

I don't think HoC was trying to be realistic in the documentary sense - the first scene is Kevin Spacey strangling an injured dog! The whole thing is pretty theatrical down to Spacey's stage-whisper asides.

It wanted to be 'realistic' as a dramatic version of everyone's darkest DC fantasies.

the o.g. HoC was clearly going for a pulp-shakespeare kind of a thing.

check it:

This is an act of mercy. Truly. You know the man now. You can see he has nowhere to go. He's begging to be set free. He's had enough. And when he's finally at rest, then we'll be free to remember the real Roger. The burning boy in the green jersey. With that legendary, fabulous sidestep and brave, terrified smile.

lol Veep is prob more realistic tbh

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veep seems ridiculously unrealistic and kinda a big disappointment, esp coming from ianucci. haven't watched house of cards yet, probably will eventually when i'm bored enough, but i'm guessing for cynicism and entertainment it doesn't approach scandal - am i wrong?

'it is realistic', 'it is allegorical' - how are those the only options???

sry those are the only options.

c) it is a cartoon with anthromorphic animals.

d) its all in yr head

e) it is an occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge

Realistic and allegorical are not the only two options, but they're maybe on either end of a scale. In which case, HoC sits a looooong way from verisimilitude.

yeah welp i got to 'that scene'

idk this is ok. i'm into it but never really sold.

Original or new? New one gets better as it goes on, by halfway I was hooked.

i dunno what 'that scene' is (the pussy eating scene?) but i like this show. haven't seen too much yet tho.

yes, ian.

i like most things about it but the political gamesmanship strikes me as totally off. not that i really know what it would REALLY look like.

i love their take on the stamper character, he's my fave so far. that and peter russo' girlfriend.

ooh original is up on Amazon Prime. will watch!!

i have no desire to watch US version, kevin spacey gives me the creeps

well this will not help

good to know

scandal does the same thing better, i now think.

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I'm four episodes in. A few notes:

(1) The newspaper intrigue is easily the weakest: it's the worst parts of Season Five "The Wire." I mean, the writers actually include a "print is dead!" "No it isn't!" exchange. American male directors still don't know how to portray female ambition without making the women look like Stepford girlfriends/wives. The caricatures aren't vivid (the Kay Graham publisher, the milquetoast editor).

(2) I've disliked Robin Wright Penn for years but she's fantastic -- easily the best person here. She gives quiet line readings and doesn't overdo the physical acting. Her smoking moments with Spacey are the best in the series.

(3) Were we really supposed to believe an editorial in a college paper thirty years ago can bring down John Kerry? Cuz holy shit. Swift Boat people, you sucked this year!

and lol @ at the Serious Liberal Woman whom Mara replaces dressing like Joni Mitchell in 1972.

I did like the Jeananne Garofalo-esque Gen-X writer that had the "twitter twat" line

the British Stamper was the best though - sooooo crepey

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S2 available to stream from tomorrow. V psyched, enjoyed S2 a lot.

Need to get round to Orange is the New Black.

*enjoyed S1 obv

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