for comparison: BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN ALBUMS POLL
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
nebraska is the hipster fav and all the hipsters on ilx are gone or I guess they're just old now
― iatee, Monday, 25 February 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
id have voted for bitusa myself with darkness 2nd
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Darkness has a couple of my all-time favorites but it's hard to get past ADAM RAIIIISED A CAIIIIIIIIIIN
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
i like nebraska fine but i think al said somewhere on ilx that having it as your favorite springsteen album makes it seem like you're not that into the whole springsteen thing, which i think is otm.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
xpost but that guitar! it melts u face!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
Nebraska became a favorite after a fan segment got turned off by the "overblown" BITUSA. As recently as 2000 I was still bumping into fans who thought BITUSA's popularity made assessment impossible.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
'i dont like springsteen but i like nebraska' - me until 2004
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
i appreciate "Adam" and its place in the album more than i used to, but even when i hated it that didn't stop Darkness from being my favorite Bruce album
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
BITUSA's rep is definitely better now than it was 10 years ago. the early E Street reunion tours seemed to be very much about getting back to the '70s catalog and downplaying BITUSA -- did they ever start playing more from that album in recent years?
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
really the crime and tragedy here is the TUNNEL OF LOVE snub. should be top 3 at least.
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
It topped my poll. Then again, "i dont like springsteen but i like nebraska' - ILX until 2007"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
er, TOL
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
tol is the new nebraska tho I don't think very many people say "I don't like springsteen but I like tol"
― iatee, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
wait is that what alfred was trying to say
― iatee, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
haha yes
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
even with BITUSA's correct repositioning in the canon, TOL's claque is a lot louder than BITUSA's.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
"TOL didn't sell as many copies, but everyone who bought it formed an ILX thread."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters in 2025 will refuse to listen to anything but 'the rising'
― iatee, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
I love all you TOL'ers but that album is like Heijera for me with Joni Mitchell.
The *sound* on TOL is like a razor wire fence to my brain. I just can't relax into it. There's a couple of songs I like but even after re-listening a couple of weeks ago I was still making that being-force-fed-broccoli-face after a while :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
HIDDEN PREDICTORS: I generally approve of broccoli.
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
what's unattractive about it?
xpost
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
The River is the real fanboy pick, Darkness is too obvious
― Euler, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
I think they're tied but it's def that era
― iatee, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
the river has the advantage of having more songs
i had tol #1, darkness #2
― balls, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
xxpost Alfred: it's the synthy/fretless-bass sound I think. It just sounds really dated to me. And I guess a lot of that is maybe I don't have any really good nostalgia for other albums that sound like this? Like maybe it's my last frontier music-wise that I have not really reckoned with.
I mean, I dig Paul Simon's Graceland and that's a fretless bass free for all so I know that immediately makes me a hypocrite. I guess with Bruce on TOL, with the exception of Brilliant Disguise, there's no songs that can rise up enough to me lyric-wise to hook me into the music. Or vice versa. I come in lost and and I stay lost.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
i have 2 tol tracks in my top 3, 4 on my ballot overall
― balls, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
my #1 is from tol
i guess what i'm saying guys is i like tol
― balls, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
ALOT
@VegemiteGrrl I think Tunnel of Love has some of Springsteen's best lyrics:It's the same thing night on nightWho's wrong baby who's rightAnother fight and I slam the door onAnother battle in our dirty little warWhen I look at myself I don't seeThe man I wanted to beSomewhere along the line I slipped off trackI'm caught movin' one step up and two steps back
I had it at #4, although it only slipped a couple of songs onto my ballot.
― funk79, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
there's fretless bass on TOL?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Springsteen played most of them on TOL; the only one that stands out is "All That Heaven Will Allow"s and maybe "Valentine Day."
I'm full of shit really is the truth of it.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
no! Let's listen to "Two Faces" together. I need the company.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
Tunnel Of Love has a pretty garish and dated sound, even just compared to BITUSA, so i can't fault anyone for being turned off by it, even if i think it's rewarding to be able to listen past it.
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
veg what's yr take on leonard cohen's i'm yr man?
― balls, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of a shame that Bruce seems to have mostly done Tunnel himself so a lot of what you hear on the album are first drafts, so that you'll never hear really stark Nebraska-style demos of any of those songs (and i imagine he doesn't revisit them much on acoustic tours) xp
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
he did quite well on those first drafts though -- they sound like fully fledged songs. To me "dated" means the songs were okay/mediocre/terrible at the time and we've become aware of it thanks to our own age
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
To my ears on TOL he learned a lot about rhythm, programming, and momentum -- for his solo recordings -- such that the Nebraska tracks are really a grind to listen to.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
I guess with Bruce on TOL, with the exception of Brilliant Disguise, there's no songs that can rise up enough to me lyric-wise to hook me into the music. Or vice versa. I come in lost and and I stay lost.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, February 25, 2013
got to learn to live with what you can't rise above iirc
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
love 'em both, though sometimes (not often but sometimes) i prefer the trentemoller remix of 'state trooper' to the original
― balls, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
The worst track ("Spare Parts") is the E Street reunion, while the mostly solo "Two Faces" makes its point quickly, sports no cluttered arrangement, and has a couple of interesting ideas, like what sounds like a guitar fed through a keyboard amp and his roller rink organ solo.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
i'm into the whole springsteen thing, but with reservations. fave album: nebraska. second fave: born to run.
my reservations are mostly about production and arrangement; he seems to have been working off a fairly narrow palate over the past 25 or so years. a lot of times i don't hear songs; i hear templates. i also hear a lot of fussiness. nebraska is the sound of springsteen songs before he gets around to thinking of any of that. and they're really really good songs. and really great performances.
born to run sounds to me like he's jumping off a 100-story skyscraper full of phil spector brian wilson van morrison animals etc etc albums without a parachute or a net, confident that clarence clemons and roy bittan are standing there on the sidewalk ready to catch him. i love that too.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
got to learn to live with what you can't rise above iirc:D :D :D!!
I'm glad the results have taken so long. Gave me time to simmer down!
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred surely you must realize that you are way more attuned to the sound of late '80s gloss than most people -- i like it too, but there was a time when it would've sounded gross to me and i can't really knock people who can't get past it. on a purely sonic level i definitely prefer the '70s records, or even the milder modernization on Born In The USA.
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
so bummed to learn that horseshoe didn't vote! i was counting on your vote for "Out In The Street"!
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
late '80s gloss
side note on early '90s gloss: there's a tremendous difference in approach between bootlegs of his solo acoustic benefit shows for the christic institute in 1990, and the studio versions of the many of the same songs that showed up shortly afterward on human touch and lucky town. tapes of the christic shows were widely circulated before the albums came out, and i think they colored a lot of hardcore fans' reaction to the albums.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
I grew into a music fan, really, at the time of mid-to-late 80s production techniques and trends, went through a looooong period of time where I couldn't revisit that stuff, then finally re-embraced it with open arms about a decade ago. Now, Tunnel of Love sounds magnificent to me, but I can totally understand the pov who haven't reconnected yet.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
propinquity!
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
I have never used the word "propinquity," and feel a little ashamed to say I didn't even know such a word existed--belongs on some future Alanis Morissette album.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
it does not mean what they think it means
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
"And isn't it propinquitious?Don't you think?It's like 10,000 Zamfirs, when all you need is a Vangelis."
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, that's interesting. I think propinquity could work, at least sort of metaphorically, even if they mean it like propensity, predilection or any number of other words that start with P.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
propinquitous people popularizing panflutes, painfully.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
There was a band called Propinquity whose album was rereleased via Numero -- it's pretty good but I bought it for like $4 so it's $4 good.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
Internet down today, just catching up.
WOW to LL's TOL story.
My Ballot:
40: State Trooper36: Candy's Room33: Atlantic City30: Something In The Night28: Spirit In The Night26: Cadillac Ranch25: Johnny 9924: The Promised Land23: Incident On 57th Street22: Darkness On The Edge of Town21: Cover Me20: Kitty's Back19: Livin' In The Future18: The Ties That Bind 17: Sherry Darling16: Open All Night15: She's The One14: Gypsy Biker13: Meeting Across The River12: Held Up Without A Gun
― Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 March 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
I equal-weighted my ballot so it's presented chronologically.
Biggest revelation for me: Tunnel of Love. I remember some of the singles (even voted for 1) but never owned the album. Gonna have to do something about that.
Biggest disconnect with other voters: Nebraska. It may be heresy on this thread but, try as I might, Nebraska doesn't do much for me. Tried again with the results rollout. Still not getting it.
Growing Up Spirits in the NightFor YouBlinded by the Light4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)Incident on 57th StreetRosalitaNew York City SerenadeKitty's BackShe's the OneThunder RoadTenth Avenue Freeze OutBackstreetsCandy's RoomRacing in the StreetsPoint BlankMy HometownDancing in the DarkTougher Than the RestStreets of Philadelphia
Albums:
Wild InnocentBorn to RunGreetingsDarknessBorn in the USA
― that's not my post, Thursday, 7 March 2013 07:07 (eleven years ago) link
Because of this thread, I wrote this about Racing in the Street. Not quite what I wanted, cos I had to bash it out in a 20-min window. Hat tip to zachlyon for the Camaro observation.
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Thursday, 7 March 2013 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
wonderful article!! i expect royalties.
― This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:18 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i never even noticed the crystals reference. but i'm horrible with that sort of thing.
― This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:20 (eleven years ago) link
Great piece. 20 minutes! Gravitas only slightly undermined by the linked video being by sgtpepperspeepee.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:59 (eleven years ago) link
I think the only reason he put the Camaro first was so that it would scan and rhyme.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:59 (eleven years ago) link
sssssshhhhhhh
― This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Thursday, 7 March 2013 09:18 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Fortunate to be a very quick writer. Been thinking about the song all poll, so I knew what I was going to say. No blank paper in my head.
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Thursday, 7 March 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago) link
Roy Bittan's piano picking out a phrase adapted from the Crystals' Then He Kissed Me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0GfHJGmLQ8
Would pay to see Bruce do anything, but a whole Phil Spector set would be ... wow ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, just saw this, which is not so hot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve1BUGpatDk
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
But what a lovely song this one is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiD378AgSds
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 March 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
Kathryn Jean Lopez @kathrynlopez
i confess, if @chucktodd asked me "Bon Jovi or Springsteen," I would not answer "Springsteen, of course"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Hi - can someone put up another link to the Spotify. xx
― kraudive, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
Jamie, could you post the whole list?
― g simmel, Friday, 8 March 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
great piece ithappens
― iatee, Friday, 8 March 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for the nice words.
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Clarence's family suing his doctors for malpractice.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 8 March 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Monday, February 25, 2013 6:11 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tbh this is mostly me. i like nebraska quite a bit, and then out of nowhere i started listening to tunnel of love obsessively, over the last year. that's my favorite now. "brilliant disguise" was the way in, but almost the entire album is very good. i do like a few other springsteen songs (no one is going to deny something like 'dancing in the dark') but in general i like when the e street band is either not there or they tone it down a little
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
I would like to distance myself fromthe 2013 VG who all but dismissed Tunnel of Love in its entiretyhttps://tenor.com/wq8K.gifi am here to say that i have revisited TOL since that time and love it start to finish. My ears, they seem to work now
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 September 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link
https://media1.tenor.com/images/4c7118532426337f032fe0750baa43cb/tenor.gif
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 September 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
welcome to the fold
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
<3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 September 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
Hooray!
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 September 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link