'...and DON'T *bleep* IT UP!' -- the RuPaul's Drag Race thread

Lol wow

Almost caught up on S5 now yay!

Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS

I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.

I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!

Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.

that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.

I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay

Meantime:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/02/27/drag_race_grey_gardens_and_jinx_monsoon_why_the_queens_need_camp.html

I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.

I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it.
I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.

Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site

http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/

Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.

Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).

https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473

This is better than what they showed on the show:

http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/

My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:

1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage
2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing
3. Tatianna as Britney Spears
4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie
5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys

Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.

xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.

Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight

Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!

Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.

Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.

Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers

Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.

Hottest out of drag:

S1: Jade
S2: Tyra, Raven
S3: Raja, Carmen, Mariah
S4: PhiPhi, Lashauwn
S5: Lineysha

xp otm

Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.

xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol

in drag he she

Sorry.

Raven from Season 2 was pretty stunning out of drag. Tyra's crooked eyebrow drove me insane, but otherwise: gorgeous.

That Salon article is really kind of awful, though?

"as far as I’m concerned, until the other ladies stop reading each other long enough to read a book" hey wow stfu

shades of Serena ChaCha

yeah the more I think about it the more the condescension in that article really annoys me

xxp Yeah, it was that very same strategy that earned Serena the lowest berth of the Untucked gangpile.

Still, I def agree with the recapper Ned shared, pointing out ignorance alone isn't a NAGL, but having *pride in ignorance* is kthxbye.

there is a grand heritage of cult & camp in gay culture & in drag, but i honestly don't think it's fair to set up grey gardens as some sort of shibboleth of queer culture as so many commenters seem to be doing in their reactions

Interesting tidbit about Honey Mahogany's sequined kaftan-dress

http://sfist.com/2013/02/19/borrowed_kaftan_costs_sfs_only_cont.php

Though honestly anyone saying that the dresses are the only reason she went home are deluuuuuuuusional. She was beautiful but hardly a force of nature performance-wise

oops, spoilers I guess? sorry

older queens are shocked, just SHOCKED that the new generation of gays doesn't share their choice of idols! the Salon article reminded me of this article from last year, in which the writer clutches his pearls and bemoans the waning of judy garland worship

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/arts/judy-garland-gay-idol-then-and-over-the-rainbow-now.html

Meh, I wouldn't have had her pegged for the top 5 or anything.

Not at all. Good legs though.

LOL, that NYT column author's friend seems like boyfriend material to me.

I'm 3/4 the way through S2 -- I know that Tyra won but is it just me or does she give off low-level sociopath vibes? Something about the flat affect in the way she talks is just kind of 'off' for me. Or she's just super-immature. Either way, whoa.

i do love jinkx and not just for little edie but ESPECIALLY for little edie

I'm especially fond of his non-aggression.

Really hope she wins, but Michelle Visage really has it out for Jinkx.

water off a duck's back

OMG

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4580bd32abea1b86a72c188600e56325/tumblr_miyhfwGBYR1rhzliao1_500.gif

haha there is a video on her site where jinkx talks about the formative influence of death becomes her

afaic, that movie did as much to mold my camp sensibilities as anything by Paul Morrissey or John Waters (both of which I came to much later)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwvF3RAirVc

Tyra starts the season really bitchy and defensive but ends up being really sweet. The strangest turnaround. (x-post)

http://www.newnownext.com/rupauls-drag-race-preview-jinkx-monsoon-rolaskatox/03/2013/

Oh and separately we got Drag Race France coming back end of June!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aHCBN5IUfA

LaLa was incandescent this week, literally everything I love about her

her character was so good

Really is a new highlight for the show's history.

also this makes me love her more

my girl lala ri doesn’t know how to wear a sash lmao pic.twitter.com/WEpYnQJzBx

— its edu (@povdemie) June 15, 2023

will alexis be the top contender for regretting appearing on all stars?

- threw her team under the bus
- threw heidi under the bus
- yesterday’s ep

lol as soon as they were pushing the story of lala saving alexis it was clear what was going to happen

i hope kandy sends her home on a rail next week lol

she did a good lipsync tho

Hilariously, turned out she was posing for photos at a Pride event here in town yesterday; someone I knew went and said she was cool. I was a couple of blocks away at one point, shoulda gone over!

Conclusion of Drag Race España was pretty nice, good winner. Drag Race México got off to a solid enough start last week, Valentina and Lolita make for a fine cohost team; also given Valentina's gender identification it makes for a change-up in terms of how a host presents in the workroom (Lolita goes boy there as per most every other host). And given Nicky's surely not-coincidentally timed appearance on All-Stars here, a reminder we have France kicking in season 2 in a few days.

Valentina was great on Pit Stop!

Yeah that was absolutely spectacular.

i can’t stand valentina anymore, i skipped through most of it
purely an irrational pov

omg

i kinda don’t care about jimbo either way normally BUT jimbo’s lipsync this week was the stupidest goddamn thing i’ve seen on this show in a long time and i loved it so much

i was dying laughing

it was so fucking stupid <3

Unexpected news!

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hbo-were-here-renewed-season-4-new-hosts-1235534460/

interesting host choices

Very.

Jimbo 🇨🇦 what a ridiculous perfect creature

Truly! A good way to end the season even if fairly well telegraphed. But pretty great Lala got the Fame Games cash!

Read the oral history of the show the other week -- essential stuff for all the further stories and memories, honestly. It is of course done with the participation of all the production crew and there's obviously quite a bit they won't or don't say, but we get more of a peek behind the curtain. Still, notable who does NOT turn up in the interviews, though they are often mentioned -- Delta, Sharon, Phi Phi, Willam, the Vixen, Naomi too I think, among others. Willam allegedly will be starting a 'book report' on it on Hot Goss this week so I'm sure we're going to get more thoughts, as it were.

Both Mexico and France have been solid watches so far and we have Down Under and Philippines back in the next couple of weeks, and supposedly the first Spanish All Stars en route too.

anybody still watching this?
enjoying this season much more than the last, it’s a much better and more entertaining group (which is why the snatch game was all the more disappointing)

Ha, yes, very much been dedicated to it and kept meaning to revive it. Solid cast, yeah, and I have zero idea who will win. Most curious about whether Plain Jane goes the distance or completely fucks up.

Revive it = revive the thread. Also this is one of the most on-brand things I've ever seen but I admire the commitment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf6AUz1n9s

(In case you're wondering how Plasma has the money for that: descendant of a Texas political dynasty on the GOP side, but her lobbyist dad apparently flooded the zone against the Texas anti-drag regulation and helped in the lawsuit getting it stopped, so even if it's Senator Rob Portman on gay marriage energy I'll take something over nothing.)

I’m still watching US, UK, Canada, France, All Stars, and Vs. The World. I enjoy most of it, but am not as excited as I used to be when it would be on once a year. I’ve been watching since the first season, and everything after Season 9 has become somewhat of a big blur.
The current season is pretty good, but I wish they would get rid of Snatch Game.

xp i wondered how that was funded (and whether it’s a major spoiler for who wins). that makes the “where were you on january the 6th?” read even funnier lol

i thought plain jane was almost timid in snatch game?
like she wasn’t sure if her jokes were landing? she could’ve killed it.