Battlestar Galactica Revival

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Is it still all Mormon-ed out?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not really. Probably. The inclusion of a robot who asks her human lover if he's bothered by her religious conviction makes me wonder where they're going with that, but whatever they're doing with the religion bit, I don't think it's Mormon-specific anymore. I could be wrong, though, haven't seen part 2 yet.

(Or they could be riffing off Mormon stuff I don't know anything about, to be honest.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, part 2 is much better. Ned, if you see it, I'm curious what you think. (And on a related note, did you happen to catch Sci Fi Channel running the Buck Rogers pilot the other day? I'd never seen it! Watched the show as much as Galactica when I was a kid, but somehow missed the pilot.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 03:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I saw the pilot all right, the whole dang series. Me liked it (but I would).

I will definitely catch this Galactica miniseries at some point -- if it repeats while I'm at home over Xmas, then. Otherwise I'll wait on the inevitable DVD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 04:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I watched a little bit of it last night and it's not bad - certainly when compared with the usual anemic stuff that Sci-Fi Channel produces. The overall feeling now is more like Heinlein or the short-lived Space Above And Beyond series.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 07:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not surprisingly, Salt Lake City hates it (but doesn't mention the de-mormonizing)

Watched more of it this morning. I was quite impressed that they actually dealt with the mechanics of zero-g inertia with things moving in space and filled in the details of Viper maneuvering jets, etc.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The writer of that Salt Lake City Tribute article is a ninny and doesn't have his facts straight.

That's hardly a sophisticated assessment, but the original show starring Lorne Greene as Adama and Richard Hatch as his star-pilot son was hardly a sophisticated hour of television.
In fact, the original "Battlestar Galactica" was a cheesy low-brow piece of science fiction entertainment that lasted only one season.

No. It lasted at least three, and had an (admittedly awful) sequel.

As in the original show, the malevolent Cylons were once a race of shiny tin cans who have now evolved into slimy creatures that can take on the form of humans.
Slime? No, they were just robots with realistic looking skin.

I told y'all that the religion aspect was going to piss off somebody.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Battlestar Galactica did last only one season (glactica 80 not included).

stevie (stevie), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with this guy.

Re:A quick and dirty review (Score:5, Insightful)
by willtsmith (466546) on Thursday December 11, @09:40PM (#7697123)
(Last Journal: Sunday November 09, @10:52PM)
I really liked the sound of metal on metal in the fight scenes. This is what it actually should sound like. You can only hear the stuff that's impacting your ship.

The navigational effects were awesome. The way the ships moved reminded me of playing Descent.

The faster than light travel was realistic from the standpoint that as soon as you jump ... POOOF ... your gone.

I think we all get very attached to the things we saw in our youth. Sometimes, when you go back and watch some of that stuff again, you realize it's pretty stupid. Original Battlestar Galactica's was way to uptite about having greek names for EVERYTHING.

Criticisms of the new version:
* I can appreciate trying to "bring home" the drama by not dressing the actors in polyester jumpsuits. However, I think the Pinstripe shirts some of these guys were wearing gave you the sense that these people just wandered onto the set in their street clothes.
The officer uniforms from the original were better. As others have pointed out, these one's look like they came straight off of Babylon 5.

* They are using techno buzzwords like "wireless" way too much. I'd like everybody to review their original Star Trek. They had boxes/gizmos and they were effectively magic. The crew didn't describe HOW the boxes worked.
I can remember watching Star Trek in the 80s and saying "Those little cassette thingies they put data on are way too unrealistic". They look nothing like a floppy disk. Well guess what, all those magic doohickies on Original Star Trek are now realities: Flip Phones(communicators), Stun Guns (phasers on stun), Pocket Computers (Tri-Corders).
So please stop trying to be techno hip. It's not REAL science fiction, it's a space drama. Battlestar Galactica with techno goop (not even CORRECT techno-goop) is effectively Star Trek Voyager.

* I like the angle with Baltar. Hoever, they've effectively turned him into Dr. Smith from "Lost In Space". Coincidentally, they were also trying to find Earth.

* I don't get why the fighter bays have to "retract". This is like the Enterprise splitting in two. There is no reason for it.

* The "Model 5" hallucination to some degree is a rip off of John Crichtons "Scorpy" implant on Farscape. BTW, quit calling EVERYTHING a chip.

Good stuff

* The Cylons are creepy. They are also multi-faceted. They are somewhat emotional.

* The effects are Bab 5 effects, and they are excellent.

* The bull-Amazon Starbuck is an interesting twist. I also like how these old GOOFY names are just their pilot handles.

* Ships move more like they should.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

For Immediate Release

Canadian Television Premiere
Part 1 - Saturday, January 17 @ 9pm ET
Part 2 - Sunday, January 18 @ 9pm ET

(Toronto - December 12, 2003) The ultimate battle between man and
begins as the long-awaited re-imagination of the cult classic,
Galactica, comes to Canada exclusively on SPACE: The Imagination
Station. A
tale of the human struggle to survive, the new miniseries stays true to
core of the 1978 original, but introduces some exciting new twists
the transformation of Starbuck, the tough pilot (originally portrayed
Dirk Benedict) into a female character, played by Katee Sackhoff
Resurrection). The two-part miniseries launches Saturday, January 17 @
ET and concludes Sunday, January 18 @ 9pm ET. SPACE will also air a
look at the making of the miniseries in Battlestar Galactica: Behind
Scenes, a SPACE original production on Saturday, January 17 @ 8:30pm

Starring Oscar nominated actors Edward James Olmos (Blade Runner, Miami
Vice) as Commander Adama and Mary McDonnell (Dances With Wolves) as
President Laura Roslin, the miniseries begins as Commander Adama and
crew of the Galactica embark on plans to put the aircraft carrier in
retirement. The ship has been out of commission for almost 40 years,
the end of the war between the people of the 12 Colonies of Kobol and
Cylons, the robots created by the humans.

As plans for the closing festivities for the beloved vessel get
underway, a
new breed of Cylons, which are virtually indistinguishable from human
beings, suddenly attack and it is up to the crew of the Galactica to
the future of the human race. The lesson they soon learn is that the
are not in their creation, but in themselves. Also stars James Callis
(Bridget Jones's Diary) as Dr. Baltar, Alberta-born model/actress
Helfer as Number Six, Jamie Bamber (Band of Brothers) as Apollo, Grace
as Boomer, and features Canadian actors Aaron Douglas, Paul Campbell
Matthew Bennett (Cold Squad).

Battlestar Galactica was shot in Vancouver, British Columbia and
directed by
Michael Rymer (In Too Deep, Queen of the Damned), and written and
produced by Robert D. Moore (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek:
Space Nine, Roswell).

SPACE: The Imagination Station, a division of CHUM Television, is a
24-hour-a-day English-language national Science Fiction, Science Fact,
Speculation and Fantasy channel (

# # #

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

CHUM Television

Yeah, that's a great name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's one P short of accurate

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Update from CHUM:

Please note the following correction:
Ronald D. Moore is the writer and executive producer for Battlestar
Galactica, and not Robert D. Moore.
Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. Please don't hesitate to
in touch with me if you have any questions.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dudes! I just got my preview copies of BOTH PARTS in the mail! I rock!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 16:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

watched part one and some of part two last night. it's GOOD.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but I guess all you 'Mericans have already seen it.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

For a second I thought you said 'Mexicans' and was bemused.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ha! I meant to do that!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
Yep, it's a series now.

Richard Hatch (the Apollo one) makes a "special appearance in an early episode of the new show, playing a Nelson Mandela-like figure, Peter Zarek."

I still don't know if I think this is a good thing or not.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(The revival, I mean, not Peter Zarek.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

! If Hatch is appearing I guess that means the conflicting claims have all finally been settled.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 04:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Is the box set in Cylon head shaped case worth $70 used?

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just got it CHEAP (sort of)

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
i just saw the miniseries and it's TERRIFIC! i mean it's really, really good!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm all set up to watch S2ep12 tonight. mmm, battlestar.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

now i'm in the middle of season one!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh, maybe it's kinda silly, but it really does warm my heart when people give this show a chance and end up loving it. It's like I can't wait until you're all "ohmygod ohymygod" about what's going on near the end of season 1, slocki! Not to mention season 2. Intense.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

OK, I read somewhere that Cylon spines glow red during sex - do they ever explain why this happens (seems like they could fix that design flaw fairly easily) and/or why this isn't a giant flashing warning sign to any humans they seduce?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The series came up for discussion a bit last night at a dinner get-together and while all was praise in general some admitted they had a hard time watching it because of the hand-held camera action. But on the flipside, the design of the ship (especially the bridge) and how the battles were often treated as off to the side instead of being the razzle-dazzle center for the audience got high marks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i LOOOOOOOOOOVE the handheld camera action!! i've been waiting for someone to film space/spaceship stuff interestingly--or even just a little subjectively--for so long!! seriously, that's one of my favourite things about the show. also the sound design is aces. also the way it's both a remake and a sequel to the original (like how in the pilot, during the battlestar's decommisioning ceremony, they play the original theme over tinny old speakers...)

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i LOOOOOOOOOOVE the handheld camera action!!

I have no problem with handheld at all! But the point of comparison was made to Blair Witch Project and how both apparently caused motion sickness among my compatriots at said dinner last night. Just doesn't affect me at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

huh! well i don't think it's anywhere as shaky as blair witch... just little discrete moves, zoom-ins. but i'm not going to argue that your friend didn't have the right to get motion sickness, haha.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I know it's not supposed to be available, but does anyone know where one could watch the BG Second Coming trailer?

Marcel Gallingez (Marcel Gallingez), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The camerawork, especially in the FX shots, reminds me of thaat in Attack of the Clones It's the crash zooms and overcompensations, I think.

I just (last week) saw Series 1. The first episode, "33", is a work of evil genius.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
just bought this (Series 1) on recommendation of a friend. turned out i needed to have seen the miniseries first. so bought that as well (a fiver), watched it and episodes 1 and 2 over the weekend. is great. reminds me of a mix of B5 and Space, Above and Beyond (which is good).

(series is currently showing on sky3 (which is available to freeview viewers) much to my annoyance. still, was only the price of a cd or so and no adverts and no waiting a week between episodes is a good thing).

yes, "33" was great. cylons as The Mummy.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink


Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink


I dunno. I watched a bunch of episodes recently and it didn't seem to be as cool as it was when I first saw them in the 80s.

I watched the second half of NuBG season two over the weekend and the division of storylines was annoying - especially the CylonAngst episode set on Caprica.

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I loved that episode! There should be more cylon emo.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm still looking forward to season 3. I'll be mucho impressed if they can pull everything forward in a non-lame way.

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

just watched Bastille Day last night. odd to see the object of your screen crush with blood dribbling down her chin where she'd bitten a chunk out of potential rapist's ear.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 07:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
wow the last episode in season one is really a GAMECHANGER

cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

a friend of mine says this show is really good

RJG, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

sometimes it is!

, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

is that you?

RJG, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

it is really good, psyched to plow my way through season two now.

the acting is surprisingly excellent. i think the dr. balthar character is the best thing about the show.

cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I should watch it

RJG, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow the last episode in season one is really a GAMECHANGER

wait til you get to the end of season 2

i have just started season 3 having finally gotten into this show bigtime a few months back

blueski, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

cutty otm about balthar.

i really really love this show. the third season was a bit uneven but not disastrous by any means. i hate having to wait a whole fracking year now.

latebloomer, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Good grief, and it turns out the original version of Galactica 1980 would have been even goofier...though it is interesting that Baltar in this version would have partially followed the path of the one in the new version:

Both Larson and the network felt the show needed some major change of focus to relaunch it as a spin-off, and Larson and Donald P. Bellisario decided to set the new series five years after "The Hand of God", the final episode of the original series. This would allow them to weed out many supporting characters who were now considered superfluous - Colonel Tigh, Athena, Cassiopeia, Boxey, etc. - which would bring down production costs. The only major characters to return from the original series would be Commander Adama, Colonel Boomer (replacing Tigh), Apollo, Starbuck and Count Baltar. Baltar was to have made atonement for betraying the Colonies to the Cylons, and was now the President of the Council of Twelve.

Upon discovering a 'present day' Earth completely unable to defend itself from the Cylons, Adama decided to just head off into deep space to lead the Cylons away from the planet, but Baltar suggested using time travel technology to alter Earth's history so its technology would develop more rapidly up to a Colonial level. The Council votes this suggestion down, so Baltar steals a ship capable of time travel and heads into Earth's past to carry out his plan anyway. After some deliberation, Starbuck and Apollo are sent after him to bring him back or at least undo his changes to history. Episodes would feature a new "Time Mission" every week, generally with Apollo at some different time in the past, and Starbuck flying back and forth between "Now" and "Then" to give information and support to Apollo. ABC approved this pitch, and gave the approval to develop a pilot for the series.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 16:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Baltar is still out there Baltaring


mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 16:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

dont stop baltaring

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 17:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

My lack of surprise: total.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:11 (seven months ago) Permalink


Οὖτις, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

But, in a way, isn't not having a plan the most cunning plan of all . . . ?

I'll show myself out.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

That's great.

El Tomboto, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

Outlander is a better show, really, for not writing itself into a corner every season.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

I saw in an FB live vid that Lisa Joy (Westworld) is writing a Galactica film, dunno how I feel about that.

Brakhage, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

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