recommend a good pub in central London........

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ALSO, none of these so-called brothers bar sellers have the FESTIVAL STRENGTH stuff, only the poncy 5% stuff...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Was the pub where I took you up the back passage the Dover Castle, PJ?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

...it is okay and the beer is reasonably cheap, but I am looking for some variety.........!

What is variety in the context of pubs? If you can sit down and the beer is reasonably cheap, what more do you pub connoisseurs look for?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Variety is not having to drink the vinegar the SS call beer.

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Better a Sam Smiths bitter than a lager, EVER.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

But if it was all simply about which pubs have good/acceptable beer, surely everyone would have this nailed down by now. The Angus Steakhouses of the pub world would have be outed long ago.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What is variety in the context of pubs?

location obv. but also range/types of beverages (+ food), mood (bright and spacious or dark and cosy?), clientele range (e.g. younger or older crowd?), range of features (jukebox, pool table etc.), sports-orientated or not (football on TV etc.)...

;_; (blueski), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

but different ppl have different tolerances innit

also the other thing you look for apart from beer and a seat is ATMOSPHERE, which can mean as many things as there are pubs. i mean, look at wetherspoons, they usually have spare seats and sell half decent ale, but they are SOULLESS HELLHOLES at best, to me, but clearly their clientele find it acceptable.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

clientele range (e.g. younger or older crowd?)

Women

The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The Angus Steakhouses of the pub world

Bob Six, I salute you you have encapsulated 5 years of ranting in a single phrase.

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the angel pup in soho. i'm not sure if that counts as central though. it's also hard to find for some reason. it's also the only pub in london I know the name of.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

A Sam Smiths generally has a good deal more atmosphere than a Whetherspoons.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

wetherspoons is more like a mcdonalds than an angus steakhouse.

which is a GOOD thing obv.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Are McDonalds full of Scottish and Irish alkies too then?

The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

A Sam Smiths generally has a good deal more atmosphere than a Whetherspoons.

How does this manifest though? Is there a significant difference in the clientele (may well be, can imagine SS range putting certain mindset off due to 'unrecognisable' branding)? Something about the decor? Neither allow music even just as background ambience so I find both lacking atmos somewhat.

;_; (blueski), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been in SS pubs with music - including when their CD skipped and we heard the "funk sooouuuullll broooooootthhhhhheeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr" bit of that Fatboy Slim track repeat itself for about 45 minutes. It was awesome.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

omg drive the wetherspoons out drive him out beat him beat him to death he is the devil man he is the devil man (although admittedly I have been to that lloyd's no. 1 bar wetherspoons in soho a couple of times).

My central London pubs are all within 10 minutes' brisk walk of Charing Cross, so anything up CC Road towards Soho is generally fair game. My favourite? Went to an awesome one next to Foley's bookshop quite recently, but have completely forgotten the name. :-( The Cambridge Arms, when not too busy, is pretty good as well.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I know I'm an old codger, but pubs *without* music is very much a plus thing for me.

Though, for me, it's more about a pub *looking* like a pub - dark/rich colours, dark wood, stained or frosted glass, lots of corners and hideyholes. Hence why SS is a cut above Wetherspoons for me.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, they have a good few labyrinthine places.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

My central London pubs are all within 10 minutes' brisk walk of Charing Cross

does this place jagger towers in surrey?

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

no, lewisham. nice try, though!

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't like pubs with music either. why bother? you go to a pub to sit down and chat, not DANCE.

juke boxes are different i guess, and if and only if accompanied by pool table.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

is there a good pub with a decent pool table in central london?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(that's assuming you were using some sort of 'rich-kid' surrey ad hominem. If you meant it in a 'ooh, wicked, I live in Surrey too!' way, or even as an inquisitive guess, then my second sentence is divested of any sarcasm.) :-)

ken, you play pool? prepare to be destroyed (if ever I come to a fap)...

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

music is not just for dancing to. i like music in cafes and i like it in pubs (tho ideally from a good jukebox) for largely the same reason.

;_; (blueski), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

that's assuming you were using some sort of 'rich-kid' surrey ad hominem.

correctamundo!

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I hail instead from the mansions and hunting-moors of deepest Lee Green. Often I can be found taking a stroll through the local Sainsbury's car-park with my faithful hounds, stopping infrequently to restoke my pipe.

passantino, now you know where to bomb. ;-)

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Jerry, that's it. I see that you must have chosen it because it is ideal for "sitting with a book and pondering eternity" which is what you're usually doing when the rest of us arrive.

No, Dadismus, that's not it. The one I'm thinking of was more in the Regents Street/Conduit Street area.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Three pool tables in the Black Horse on Rathbone Place. I wouldn't call it a good pub though.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Lamb? (xpost)

The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

music is too often too loud. i like it in principle. i think i will go to a pub, at christmas.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

ken, there's a rather odd bouzer out the back of debenhams/selfridges called the cock and lion, that has a couple of pool tables upstairs. 62 Wigmore Street sa fap.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

sa fap?

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

says the website fap

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The Sun and Thirteen Cantons is good, as is the John Snow round the corner. The Hope on the corner of Whitfield Street and Tottenham Road should be a good pub, but I went in there the night before last and it was freezing. FREEZING. The Kings Somthing off Great Portland Street is nice, as is The Angel in Soho/ Covent Garden.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

FAP review of Sun & 13 Cantons is funnee.

;_; (blueski), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm always amused by the Ben Crouch's Tavern on Wells Street and that other spooky pub owned by the same people down the other end by Selfridges.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

William IV, our new local, is an excellent place. I just had some *very* nice cod and chips there.

G00blar, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

right so. i'm on the lookout for a pub in the camden area which as a. a decent ale, b. some half-edible scran and c. a pool table.

stipulation b. is optional - a. can feasibly be dealt with using the word "Guinness" but only if option c. is fulfilled in its entirety.

anyone? need it for this sunday! tip your tits off...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 27 November 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, you'd be lucky. Particularly on the pool table front.

How 'Camden area' are we talking, Camden Town or the borough?

chap, Thursday, 27 November 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Thinking about it, you could try the Grand Union on Highgate road. It's part of small chain, but not too bad, with pretty good burgers and a table in the basement. Not sure about the ale situation.

chap, Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

that's assuming you were using some sort of 'rich-kid' surrey ad hominem. If you meant it in a 'ooh, wicked, I live in Surrey too!' way, or even as an inquisitive guess, then my second sentence is divested of any sarcasm.) :-)
ken, you play pool? prepare to be destroyed (if ever I come to a fap)...

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:26 (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

heh

o_O (ken c), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the good mixer has a pool table

o_O (ken c), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Unfortuneately it has the disadvantage of being The Good Mixer.

chap, Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Not too many pubs with pool tables in Camden

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Pembroke Castle near Chalk Farm has pool tables upstairs iirc.

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

As does the Bull and Gate on Kentish Town Road, but no ales or food.

chap, Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Bull and Gate not in Camden, bit of a trek to get there

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

the world's end has a pool table but it's the world's end

as does the camden tup which is slightly nicer.

o_O (ken c), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

much nicer, actually

o_O (ken c), Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Dean Swift is ace and is really not that far from the steps down to Shad Thames from Tower Bridge. Lafone Street is about 5 cobble-streeted minutes' walk from the steps - I lived there in a garden flat during my first summer in London.

voodoo rage (suzy), Monday, 26 October 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

is the garrison the one with the kind of green astro turf in the backyard?

I think that's the Woolpack over the road, which can be okay but can also be hellish, especially on busy nights. Garrison is more laid-back, booking recommended especially if you'll be eating.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 October 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

ah right - is the garrison like extremely gastro, more a restaurant? i may have eaten there recently enough.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

anyone got any pub or bar recommendations around the New Cross Overground station area? Nothing fancy just not awful if possible!

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 11 August 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

Think I'd head for Beer Rebellion at Queens Road Peckham - 15 minutes' walk away or one Overground stop.

Madchen, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

cheers! Ended up at the Royal Albert on New Cross Rd, a perfectly serviceable Antic pub.

André Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 14 August 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

That would have been my recommendation as well. I have a soft spot for the Marquis of Granby as well but I can see that's not for everyone.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 August 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

the Marquis looks a bit more rough and ready right? Antic pubs are ten a penny these days but they do have the considerable virtue of serving good beer well

André Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 14 August 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

The Albert is probably the best of all of them, mind. Helps that it opens late and was actually a pub before they took it on, so it has the right look and feel.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 August 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link


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