The Dismemberment Plan: Classic Or Dud?

Look, I was ready to forget about "Heroin" but you're pushing it now.

On a side note, I think this "angry and young" idea is a little strange. It's fine as a personal preference, I guess, but it seems to me like lots of rock music is at the very least not both of those things. (I'd consider 'young', but only for a couple seconds before I thought of exceptions.)

ehhhhhhhh...not really. or, explain how.

the dis plan has an amazing rhythm section. they're also one of the few bands i expect to get even better with their next album.

PS. I really like "Timebomb" *and* have noted its half- submerged rhythmic brilliance. See forthcoming blog post.

I think the most interesting idea in Tim's piece is the thing about giving up to the groove. It's probably just my lesser familiarity with groove-based music, but I don't think I bring hopes like that to music that's reaching out to dance. It does make me wonder what reasons we might have for preferring dance/nondance fusions to cross farther in one direction than in the other. My intuition is that it's more helpful and interesting for them to hold back from giving in to the groove, barely, because once they cross the line they seem more like whatever-inflected dance music, which is made a lot; but music that stays behind in, say, post-hardcore, is doing a lot more to its core music. This also makes me wonder what Tim would make of their two previous albums, which to different degrees also dip into other kinds of music, but in less obvious ways, I think (given the number of songs on Change that chug along over a hot rhythm section). I think they make the monogroove character (cyclicalish structure rather than linearish-Pixiesque) of Change a lot more striking.

*massive fart noise*

It's the voice, really. The music I always thought was decent. The dealbreaker was the look on his face as he sang onstage, combined with the tone of his voice and his words. I just couldn't stand it.

Normally, if I think an artist is a dickhead in real life, it doesn't really bother me. It just makes Lou Reed even cooler, for example. But for some reason, Travis Morrison's personality just ruins Dismemberment Plan.

x-posting and annoying like hell, but yeah, travis morrison disses the clash today: http://www.whatwasitanyway.com

and my two cents is that emergency & i is a fantastic record but not as far and away from anything else he's done as most people act. "as we proceed" and "you make me feel like a freak" could've gone on the plan's fifth album, and it would've been a totally natural progression from change.

They were just teeing it up with 'Change' and then they broke.

Sorry, but just been listening to that last album. They were on to something.

Maritime are/were OK btw. Morrison solo was pretty poor and he's now 'retired'

I was seeking recommendations similar to the D Plan, on here about five years ago and now I'm back again after 24 more failed relationships.

Should I take up caravanning?

WHen I first joined ILX, it seemed like EVERYONE was all about this band.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/07/travis_morrison_and_the_dismemberment_plan_what_it_s_like_to_marry_a_rock_star_.single.html

He worked at the Washington Post and then the Huffington Post, where I met him. I asked him about his albums, and he told me that I should just listen to the one he considered the best, Emergency & I. When I asked about the others, he said he didn’t have any copies, and that I would have to buy them on iTunes. So I downloaded and listened. I enjoyed them, although I didn’t memorize any lyrics or listen to them on repeat. But that chapter of his biography didn’t play much part in our lovely blossoming romance. At the time, Travis got his singing joy largely from an Episcopal church choir.

Aw, that's kind of a sweet piece.

ya totally. she seems nice, & both of them v.levelheaded about the whole thing, hope their marriage is a happy one :)

I kinda like the fact he didn't have copies of the other ones around.

lol the dc-board of old school indie-crowd types i post on are SO OFFENDED by this article and think she's the worst person ever, like they can't even past her referring to him as a rock star

it's a cute article but i def would not have told her "yeah sure publishing that is a good idea, go for it" if i was him

B/c it reflects badly on him, or?

i think travis has given up on pleasing old school indie-crowd types except in a "give me money, i give you hits" capacity

i don't think referring to him as a rock star is like a we-r-so-indie sticking point, it's just that she sort of structures the article around that thought ('omg, a rock star?!') in a way that is kind of out of touch with the inappropriateness of referring to a moderate turn-of-millennium indie rock success as a 'rock star'. the response is like, guh? what are you talking about?

she does admit up front that she knows nothing about music and doesn't care. she also uses an analogy to a leather mini-skirt wearing fangirl from Almost Famous not once, but twice.

i remember being crushed when he went all neo-con post-9/11

Wait, this was a thing?

yeah i remember at least one long idiotic blog post advocating war in iraq etc.

this appears to be some morons discussing it but the meat of morrison's argument is roughly (and as abuard) as i remember it.

to be fair, i knew a lot of previously intelligent people who turned into chest-beating morons on September 12.

http://devonrecordclub.com/2013/10/28/the-dismemberment-plan-emergency-i-round-56-nicks-choice/

They are so awesome and dorky live.

yup

aren't they shitty at this stage?

they're basically as good a live band now as they ever were. even if you hate the new songs, they sound better live and aren't the whole show.