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god i can't even.. blade grinders are fine, f u all

Woody Ellen (Matt P), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

for drip coffee they really are. I think I'd rather have a finer but more uneven grind rather than one that was too coarse.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

capresso burr grinder forever

scott I'm pretty sure I would murder your relatives

mr veg always talks about getting a pavoni manual espresso maker and I'm like fuck you I'm not handcranking my goddamn coffee you maniac

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

this is cheap for an electric burr and i guess pretty ok? http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8-Supreme-Grind-Automatic/dp/B00018RRRK

s.clover, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I wish someone would come up with a raymond burr grinder

sry

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

I have one of those DBM-8 grinders for making coffee at home, and it sucks: Uneven grind, powder that sticks to the crappy plastic cup. I guess if I had to make coffee for more than one person, and wanted a super find or super coarse grind, I would consider investing in one of those Capressos or some other fancy burr grinder. I'd still want to own a Hario mini mill for camping and work and stuff.

poopdeck pappy (beard papa), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

we've had the capresso for 5+ years, it works great. but we do grind for both drip and espresso so it def suits our needs and copious amounts of coffee that we drink

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Veg the "hand" part of the Pavoni process is literally 10-15 seconds.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

i

don't

care

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

as long as this is the coffee thread now, is there an electric kettle that will heat water to the proper temp or should I just do the 'let it boil, cut the heat and wait five minutes' thing?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

I wish I could taste the tiny differences between all these different coffee making ingredients and methodologies. I am sure there are highly gifted people who can, and their perceptions are what drives the ever more finely graded scale of which kind of X is the best kind of X, and I wish them great joy in their ability to enjoy these distinctions.

I can't. Therefore I just drink regular crap coffee and seem, against all odds, to enjoy it; that is my own peculiar gift, just as superfine senses are a gift others enjoy.

Aimless, Monday, 25 March 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Wait 5 minutes?? I bring to JUST the start of a boil and pick up the kettle and wait 13 seconds (usually while I do something else like put 4 plates in the dishwasher or etc so I'm not just standing there).

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know where I got 13 seconds, probably from some ilx thread between dayo and max.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

gol dang yall i'm straight up drinkin folgers right now, if i had any cash to spare i'd buy some fresh from the shop on the corner and have them grind it.

j., Monday, 25 March 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

"pick up the kettle" do you have an ELECTRIC RANGE ugh how gauche

j/k j/k ;P

open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

i grew up on instant, but I derive a bit of pleasure from making espresso at home. it's a fun problem-solving process that is frustratingly, interestingly different every time I do it. I try not to be a snob about it though :)
also I drink those sbux via instant things when I need a coffee hit at work so it all comes out in the wash. sometimes coffee is just coffee

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

xp HOW DARE YOU I WOULD NEVER. The flame element + reflecting shield + etc seem to retain enough heat that things cook a lil more unless you move the pan.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Wait 5 minutes?? I bring to JUST the start of a boil and pick up the kettle and wait 13 seconds (usually while I do something else like put 4 plates in the dishwasher or etc so I'm not just standing there).

― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, March 25, 2013 2:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. And I love in an almost obsessive compulsive kind of way finding little tasks to do in between bits of the coffee process/finding the most efficient order to do things in, etc.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

gol dang yall i'm straight up drinkin folgers right now, if i had any cash to spare i'd buy some fresh from the shop on the corner and have them grind it.

― j., Monday, March 25, 2013 2:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Get someone with a Costco membership to buy you coffee there -- good coffee at Folgers' prices. I've been using the Colombian beans for a while and they come out to about $5/lb.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

no thanks man i can't make basic food intake into a strategic economic operation, that's the first step down the road to hand-ground artisanal civet coffee

j., Monday, 25 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

slippery slope argument

Aimless, Monday, 25 March 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

other end of the spectrum is artisinal dumpster diving

The Complete Afterbirth of the Cool (WilliamC), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh idk, I think it's kind of a different path. artisinal consumption is all about throwing economics out the window. I remember some article (maybe from the quid/ag ny times thread?) where some brooklyn foodie type was talking about how his moderate income family spent $12 on half gallons of milk and $8 on a dozen eggs.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

For $24/gallon, do they walk the cow to your front door and milk it in front of you?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

insanity

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

I hope the people are actually getting $2/gal milk poured into fancy glass bottles tbh.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

i love good coffee but i will also drink any kind of coffee.

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

they have good beans at the co-op market here. i grind them there. i used to grind electicallu, but my grinder pooped out. i kinda dig that swedish coffee i see in all the supermarkets now. i like the yellow bag. they must have been bought out by Kraft or something, cuz i never saw it and now its everywhere.

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, found it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/magazine/14food-t-000.html?_r=2&scp=3&sq=chicken%20meatball&st=cse&

Apologies, it was $14/gallon, not $12/half gallon

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

gevalia, i guess?

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Until recently, whenever we went to the farmers’ market, we would lug home $50 pork roasts and $14 gallons of milk. We would spend over $100 on food that might not last more than three days. Sometimes we’d shop on Saturday morning and have nothing to make for dinner on Monday. I shrugged this off as one of those oddities of New York life, like getting a ticket because your neighbor put out his trash on the wrong day. But the $35 chicken made me reconsider. Buying sustainably raised beef and sustainably squeezed milk and sustainably hatched poultry is a way of life that, these days, I just can’t sustain.

One of my favorite clueless statements of all time

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

"All these ming vases are starting to add up! There must be another way to decorate your house!"

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

gevalia, i guess?

― scott seward, Monday, March 25, 2013 3:11 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah it's not bad. my other supermarket rec is seattle's best level 1 or 2.

probably the best mass-market coffee is the target single-origin stuff

乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

archer farms

乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't had costco tho...............................

乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

best super mass market is chock full o nuts

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

"electicallu"

uh, ELECTRICALLY...

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost dayo interesting, i haven't tried the target/archer farms. what's the price like?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

everytime ive been its always on sale for like $6-7 a bag, but it might be a 10 ounce bag instead of a 12 ounce bag

乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

good to know, I might check it out

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

i only have a few essential requirements for my coffee. it needs to have caffeine, it needs to be drinkable black, and it needs to keep the #2 train running on time.

open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha, I had not heard that phrase before.

The Complete Afterbirth of the Cool (WilliamC), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

lol elmo <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

laxative qualities of joe shld get more mention in reviews

Aimless, Monday, 25 March 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

those cheap cans can fool me these days and i curse like a sailor when i get home and notice that i bought 1/2 CAFFEINE friggin' folgers or whatever. what the hell is wrong with those people? people can make weak coffee on their own.

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

savages

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

I've liked most Archer Farms products ....

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

i love good coffee but i will also drink any kind of coffee.

― scott seward, Monday, March 25, 2013 2:03 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my man

my lil' sis is working at a Caribou Coffee a bit, so I have some complementary beans. Might french press them this week.

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link

Do you people who drink any kind of coffee drink it black, or with a bunch of cream and sugar? I feel like with enough cream & sugar any coffee is drinkable, but I prefer minimal enhancements to my brew. The beans I get are fair trade, locally distributed, are a decent price, and taste awesome black.

poopdeck pappy (beard papa), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link


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