there's some nefarious pricing mind control at work:http://conversionxl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/economistpricing.pnghttp://conversionxl.com/pricing-experiments-you-might-not-know-but-can-learn-from/
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
One of Berman’s lists tracked the thousand greatest people who had ever lived, and, Berman confided, he himself had recently reached No. 27, surpassing Herman Melville.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
not that this is the right handle by which to pick up something so serious, but . . . I have to say that the role of Miltonic "greatness" in Berman's predatory schtick was really particularly enraging to me- as an early modern academic, I have to say that the kind of parental superego of Miltonic authority is the most irritating part of Milton studies, the way that the rhetorical construction of Milton's lone visionary genius as the yardstick of all human achievement is just rife in the field as a disavowed-yet-obvious means by which Milton critics in turn pump up their own greatness as scholars/humans (and by extension flatter their readers as a "fit but few" exception to the herd who don't bask in the greatness), and to see this kind of debased variant of that cultish critical apparatus used as a tool to scare and intimidate (let alone molest) high school kids is just stomach-turning. Ugh ugh ugh x infinity.
― the tune was space, Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:12 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
curious why these psychos are drawn to milton
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/03/sonali-deraniyagala-wave-review-teju-cole.html― s.clover, Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:54 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
reading this book rn; awful story
― cozen, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:06 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
i like the "recently," like what happened that in his head he was like "nailed it"
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
that was amazing. like he thinks he's being humble not putting himself at the top
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
i love david carr so much in that clip
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
I immediately searched on line for a downloadable version of Berman's novel. No luck.
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/azKsgZf.jpg
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
lunatic in repose. gonna pull out all the stops to find a copy of his novel.
(btw it still being 60/yr for a subscrip is killing me, is it really worth that price rn?)
― ta-nehisi goatse (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
He looks like a Godard character.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
hey I got an idea for that pointer
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder who berman roots for in milton. you've got your lovable scoundrel satan and evil manipulative stalin-like god, i could see it going either way.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
― ta-nehisi goatse (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:30 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's 48 issues. gd is it worth it
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
what ugly hands!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
word @ s1ocki, nyer subscription is easily the best thing i spend money on. & i just bought a really nice loaf of onion bread.
― cozen, Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sorta wanna read this, though contending w/feelings of self-disgust at it being like evocatively rendered grief writing. how is it?
― schlump, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol veg
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
boy's school teacher cult thing as old as the hills. ancient greece to thread. not that abuse is good obviously. but its typical. especially in previous eras.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
"the didge" !
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder if Stanley Fish made the list.
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 2, 2013 6:53 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8TRoMSG-5I
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
Won't download in the background my ass, I just cleared 2 gigs of these things offa my iPad.
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
they do if you elect to receive background downloads (impractical if you use wifi at work or phone tethering or w/e). if you manually kick off a download and close the app, i think it stops.
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
after a few minutes
vice piece kinda seemed like it was trying to indite them with banality
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even wanna read that one
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 5 April 2013 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
otm. no coincidence this horace mann creep's heyday was during the late 60s & 70s, the age of cult leaders, gurus and "sexual permissiveness"
― screen scraper (m coleman), Friday, 5 April 2013 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
All this Vice synergy ... disconcerting. First Rodman goes to North Korea. Then there's a huge New Yorker piece, in advance of an HBO launch. And they were just profiled on NPR this morning, all with the same sort of formula of awed established names paying lip service to spunky edgy upstart as journalist for the 21st century. Like capturing the attention of the 18-24 male demo is something to be proud of.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
vice has been grinding for a decade now to be the next mtv, their aspiration is big and ugly and now they have the clout of mtv and face time with a reclusive dictator. it's 15 minutes time. i hold out hope to have schadenfreude when the hbo show tanks but i dunno.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
― screen scraper (m coleman), Friday, April 5, 2013 5:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i forget who it was now but they quoted somebody who actually tried to excuse the abuse basically on these grounds: it's been commonplace for centuries and the era in question facilitated such "sexual experimentation" or however he or she chose to put it. i almost threw up
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
btw i don't even know what vice is, am i bad at the internet
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
its a canadian ad agency
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
there is a thing in the nyer about them, you can learn
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
xp vice is a media/advertising company that started as a free canada zine, moved to NYC and became the online/paper voice of hipster nihilism, diversified to music about five years ago (they're noisey if you've seen those concert/interview links on youtube). sort of the Spy of 2003 and in many ways teed up buzzfeed. They have a new "journalism" show coming on HBO this weekend. They're big on gonzo YOU ARE THERE moments and presenting white/western privilege and perspective to be "cool".
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
they also invented ironic racism
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
forksapedia
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
don't know about diversifying to music 5 years ago...they've had a label and been doing shows and whatnot since the early 00s.
― dan selzer, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
i knew they were doing shows as a marketing thing but didn't notice the label until late 00's
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
vice put out the lol streets first album in america iirc
― just sayin, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
right you are, as an imprint. the successful push to internet is when i started paying closer attention to them as a music entity.... though i suppose they were the cats doing 77 boadrums back in the day. /critic forgetfulness
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i noticed them as a label when they did the US release of Seadrum/House of Sun (2004?) and came closest to having affection for them when they helped with Boadrum.
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
i remember about a dozen homunculus dudes skittering about at that show with animal masks and hand held cameras; i think that was vice
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
it was one of the best live things ever on a lot of levels
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
vice is p troubling in a lot of ways obviously but when comparing them to mtv or mens/lad mags they're the lesser of several evils imo
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
man, i dunno about thathttp://pastehtml.com/view/c68p9j892.html
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
You'd have known about it if you were on ILX ca. 2004-06.
― jaymc, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Five years ago, we did a two-page spread on how Project USA’s Craig Nelson was brave enough to take on America’s seriously damaged immigration policies. (We are immigrants ourselves and were therefore not the least bit afraid of being blackballed as “anti-immigrant.”) The responses were hysterical. Formerly loyal readers called for boycotts. They annoyed our advertisers with silly rhetoric and called us racists. Needless to say, we were shocked. Like Toby Young in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People or Peter Brimelow in Alien Nation, we were new immigrants who couldn’t understand why Americans were so determined to favor PC posturing over simple facts. Immigration is out of hand, and it’s only going to get worse. Where were the young conservatives to come to our defense? Was the dumb community in control of the entire country?Two years later, we ran an article on an artist who painted women with incredibly large rear ends. Gay men and straight women found the depictions revolting. Straight men loved it. In the article, the writer went so far as to blame the heavy concentration of gays in the magazine world for brainwashing women into thinking men don’t want them to be at least a little bit porky. He talked about how men bought more hair products than women last year and how heavy grooming like hair dying, chest waxing, and even eyebrow plucking have become de rigueur for straight men. He claimed the gay community had “recreated straights in their own image.” Predictably, our readers were outraged. But something was different this time. On our Web site’s message boards, advocates of the Right started to appear. For every three people who called the article homophobic, there was at least one saying, “What about the part where it’s true? Isn’t that worth something?”—a comment that beautifully sums up the difference between liberals (equality first, truth last) and conservatives (truth first, everything else second).
Two years later, we ran an article on an artist who painted women with incredibly large rear ends. Gay men and straight women found the depictions revolting. Straight men loved it. In the article, the writer went so far as to blame the heavy concentration of gays in the magazine world for brainwashing women into thinking men don’t want them to be at least a little bit porky. He talked about how men bought more hair products than women last year and how heavy grooming like hair dying, chest waxing, and even eyebrow plucking have become de rigueur for straight men. He claimed the gay community had “recreated straights in their own image.” Predictably, our readers were outraged. But something was different this time. On our Web site’s message boards, advocates of the Right started to appear. For every three people who called the article homophobic, there was at least one saying, “What about the part where it’s true? Isn’t that worth something?”—a comment that beautifully sums up the difference between liberals (equality first, truth last) and conservatives (truth first, everything else second).
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
point taken but micinnes in 2013 =! vice in 2013
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
god that guy is such a POS
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― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link