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Might also be a syncing issue?
I'd set all my music syncing to manual, or at least I thought I did, until it became clear that iTunes purchases (songs) on the laptop were automatically transferred to my iPhone. Resulting in songs/albums ending up there twice, since I manually transferred them as well. I've tried two things: selecting and deleting the doubles, or deleting them all and retransfer them manually. Now there's a Young Smoke album and a partial Charles Mingus album that don't play when I select them, like lex, on the iPhone. The files play fine in iTunes on the laptop. Funny thing is that these files do not show up in my iPhone list when I've hooked it up to the laptop, WTF. Basically there are files that I can't play when I see them on the iPhone and I can't remove them because iTunes doesn't see them...

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willem, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

lex how old is your ipod?

Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

no error messages, syncing is manual (the mp3s with these issues aren't itunes purchases), ipod is...about 1.5 years old i think?

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

so it should be playing mp3s pretty solidly out of the box

it's only with specific files, yeah?

Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah. all files on specific albums (only two ever) (one of those was an official mixtape)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

i've had dodgy mp3s recently so i reckon it's that. you can get hold of apps that fix mp3s but i can't think of one to recommend off-hand; maybe someone else here can

Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

did you already try to convert those files to mp3 in itunes? that should do the job if they play in itunes.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

My iPod sometimes skips wav and aiff files that play fine on iTunes. Just need to convert them.

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

they are mp3s already

the ipod has skipped wav files before but i assumed that was just cuz they're huge

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

i know. but as i said before, they might be not readable by the ipod but readable by itunes. just have a try.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

this happens to me all the time with rap mixtapes, very frustrating & mysterious

flopson, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

Changing tags has helped fixed playback issues for me in the past.

skip, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

like add some text to a meaningless tag and see if it fixes it.

skip, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Should be set at 44.1 kHz and 16-bit...but I forget where those settings are.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I've had those problems pretty frequently, and my solution was to just make another copy of the mp3 in iTunes using the Create Mp3 Version tool, and when that didn't work I'd open the file in Audacity and save a fresh mp3.

JonathanBogart, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

does anyone else have a problem with opening youtube links that are posted on ilx with their ipod?

Sébastien, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

are you using an old version of zing?

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 5 August 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

my ipod classic is on its last leg of its last leg and i need a replacement

1) will ANYONE in the world fix my ipod classic?
2) if not, what is the best alternative? i know there must be a company making an mp3 player but idk where to begin

heeeeeeelp please

i am not going to completely switch the way i listen to music. this one is perfectly fine but the delivery device is not.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

My ipod classic packed in. I wonder if it could be fixed and how much that would be

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

isn't there some enterprising person who knows how to fix these things who wants to make a little money fixing all of these beloved sad dying ipods?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

I am determined to either learn how to fix these things or how to Frankenstein together an mp3 player that runs on the same software before my own Classic turfs out. Because I could otherwise see myself abandoning music altogether for a while if I wind up having to abandon a decade and a half of meticulous playlist construction.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

It's minor as existential crises go, but Apple's abandonment of the iPod and the inevitable obsolescence of the surviving hardware is like knowing you'll wake up one day to discover that all of your books are now filled with blank pages. What do you even do.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

when someone tells me i should just give up and embrace streaming, ii feel like someone has told me that i can only eat liquified food for the rest of my life
the dnw factor is high

the question is not to philosophize about the nature of the problem -- i want a solution! i have googled for some products and there are mp3 players available. are any of them an acceptable substitute?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

if they'd make a 256 GB iPhone I'd be cool with it. how hard can it be really.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

speaking for myself, listening to music while i am going from here to there is receiving nourishment, i've been doing it since i got my first walkman -- before the ipod i had fully accepted that i needed to carry a bag big enough to hold a CD wallet + extra batteries, and i did that in spite of it being inconvenient. it beat carrying tapes around. then i got an ipod and everything was great for almost a decade. NOW WHAT

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

as I understand it the problem here is really "I need a player that integrates with a pre-existing iTunes library/playlists", right?

sleeve, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

yes
god this whole situation makes me so irrationally angry (i don't tend to get that way about much but listening to music is very important to me)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

LL, I am totally with you in regard to streaming solution being no solution at all. I have one iPod Classic with bad sectors on its hard drive (it fools me into thinking it's totally fine and then goes crazy when I try to play something that lives in its death spot) and one iPod Classic in good shape (which I bought the day they announced they were discontinuing them) but I have also done a lot of messing around with inexpensive Micro SD Card based MP3 players and so I have thoughts on this matter!

First things first: the control wheel on the iPod Classic is untouchable; you will not find another player with an interface that good. Not all the other interfaces are bad but none of them approach that fuckin' wheel.

Now... I'm not sure there are technicians out there who can repair your iPC as is, but there are a bunch of technicians out there who specialize in refitting iPCs with new solid state drives to replace the spinning-disc hard drive. There are also people who simply sell you an iPC which has already been refitted in this way. The plus side is your iPod ends up with higher capacity than it had before. Like 256GB, 512GB, even 1TB supposedly. The higher capacity the more they charge you. The possible minus side is I'm not sure if iTunes will still play totally nicely with your Ipod once it has an SSDD in it. I don't think that's such a big deal though - iTunes is an awful, awful experience at this point and you can just put RockBox (a free alternative firmware) and move things onto/off of your SSDD iPod in folder structures just like you would any other external hard drive. I have Rockbox on both of mine; it's fantastic and I don't miss iTunes 0.01%. Having a solid state drive put into your dying iPod is gonna cost you as much or more as a new ipod would have back before they were discontinued, but less than buying an actual new-used iPod today.

When my iPC that's in good health eventually starts croaking, I want to have a high capacity SSDD put in it.

OK. Other players. I will cover this in another post in a bit.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

oh also. What are the symptoms of your dying friend?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

have you considered getting a 128 GB iPhone as a replacement? I think you can find 'em for like $250

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

the case cracked open when i dropped it on the sidewalk (i blame my dog but it's not his fault) and is currently being held together with a binder clip
the funny thing is that last i checked, it worked but i know it will probably not work soon. the binder clip solution isn't sustainable.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

so like the metal rear housing and the front housing separated?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

if that's what it's called, yes

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

It might not actually be ~broken~ - IIRC when people open them up to do their own alterations they talk about carefully but forcefully prying the housing halves apart. Do you have any in town friends who are handy with electronics?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

I hardly ever use my Classic anymore but I do keep it around - never had any problems with the hard drive but I have had to open it up twice to replace a) a broken earphone jack socket and b) a dead battery. It's quite a hassle but doable with the right tools.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

i see that the rear half has little springs tack welded into the perimeter which are easily broken when one removes it on purpose, even with care - I wonder if one or more of those little springs broke on impact and that's why it doesnt stay together now.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

speaking for myself, listening to music while i am going from here to there is receiving nourishment, i've been doing it since i got my first walkman -- before the ipod i had fully accepted that i needed to carry a bag big enough to hold a CD wallet + extra batteries, and i did that in spite of it being inconvenient. it beat carrying tapes around. then i got an ipod and everything was great for almost a decade. NOW WHAT

btw, total samesies on all of this.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

The iPod Touch is available for $299, 128 gigs. Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm still holding onto my 160 classic, it's probably got a few years left but the day of reckoning is going to come.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

speaking for myself, I can't roll with touch screen interface for an mp3 player. I need to be able to skip tracks, adjust volume, pause etc with it in my pocket etc. Even a mediocre button-based interface is preferable to a touch screen for this application IMO

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

I had a stretch a number of years ago between breaking an iPod and being able to afford a replacement when I started trucking around with a Walkman and a bag full of ancient tapes. Such is the extent to which I'm feeling the pain here.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

does Rockbox actually keep track of play counts, playlists, etc etc ? I thought all that stuff was a luxury but I use it all the time.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

i ~think~ it does play counts? That might be a preference I have kept disabled. It's pretty easy to build playlists from within the RockBoxed player itself, but I think trickier to import playlists into the player.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Ugh, mine just died, too. Tried to add Neil Young's Hitchhiker and the Jacksons' Triumph, it got caught in a syncing loop, tried to restore it five times, kept getting caught in a loop. I blame my car. When I started plugging my ipod into my car's USB dealie, the ipod started acting weird. And now it's dead.

if they'd make a 256 GB iPhone I'd be cool with it. how hard can it be really.

― frogbs, Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:48 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They do! The iphone 8 (and probably the X) has a 256 option.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

hah...so the endgame is gonna be to hold out another 3 years until I can get one of those on the cheap

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

but then you gotta deal with no headphone jack!!!! god damnit apple

frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

or you buy yourself a 60 or 70 dollar MP3 player and a 200GB micro SD card right now :)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

or multiple 200GB cards so you can switch them out depending on your mood

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

I think the new iphones come with a lightning-to-1/8" adapter. Still, needlessly annoying.

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Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

I dread this day. I don't use Apple products for phone or computer, but use my ipod every day as a podcast machine, mostly. I subscribe & dl through the iTunes store and put them on my ipod.

What would be the theoretical no-ipod solution? My Android phone is old, janky, and constantly running out of space, I can't really see streaming or downloading podcasts on that as workable. Download through Stitcher or something and put them on some other mp3 player?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

This whole conversation is so depressingly 'I understand that your kidney is giving out, how about we replace it with this beer can with a whistle glued to it'.

Scott Staph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

When you have something playing, go to the large album art playing screen (if you're not there, click on the small album art in the lower left corner) and scroll up. You'll see the shuffle and repeat buttons appear and you can turn shuffle off. If that's not the issue, only other thing I can think of is maybe your track # metadata is missing, which you can fix in iTunes. In my experience the tracks play in alphabetical order in that instance.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

i absolutely hated my few months of trying to use my iphone as an itunes-driven music player

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

Rejecter that fixed it! Cheers.

Yeah Jon the transition hasn’t been smooth

Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link


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