I am generally in favour of Get Close, but not of "How Much Did You Get For Your Soul" (their worst 80s track?)
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
GC keepers: the one-two punch of "Chill Factor" and "Hymn to Her" (two of her best vocals), "My Baby," and a B-side titled "World Within Worlds."
Remember her second-tier Bond theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgy7fpUR2A
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
and, yes, "Don't Get Me Wrong"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
"Tattooed Love Boys" is tight as hell. Running a 7/8 (I think?) over that Motown beat is a total virtuoso punk move -- punk because it makes it seem even faster, virtuoso for being able to count it. They were a hot band.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link
one of the coolest sounding records, ever
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 26 May 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link
A top ten record for me.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
Damn, I would've thrown Get Close a vote. Feels like the time is right for someone to cover "Don't Get Me Wrong".― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
so is this gonna happen soon or what?
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
Get Close is a triumph of voice and personality. On her worst imperial phase record, Hynde gives the performance of her life. "Chill Factor" kills me: a peak of her talk-singing. She doesn't go soft, hugging the organ and stressing unexpected syllables.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
Unusual (but lovely) Chrissie vocal on this cover of Tim Buckley's "Morning Glory"; it's kinda Joan Baez down an octave or so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWAKX_mmHNk
On a more upbeat tip, "Break Up the Concrete":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TfF9I3-zJ0
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
Oh wow, Chrissie has a solo record out this week.
― Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 June 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Saw a video of the song "House of Cards," featuring Chrissie and a band. Eh, it was ok.
The album, entitled Stockholm will feature notable guests such as Neil Young, Björn Yttling of swedish indie pop band Peter Bjorn and John, and even fretwork from tennis legend John McEnroe.
Stockholm will be the follow up to the Pretenders 2008 album Break Up The Concrete
― curmudgeon, Monday, 9 June 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
only a 5.8 from Pitchfork and review includes this :
In Stockholm’s press materials, Hynde says, “I wanted to make a power pop album you could dance to—Abba meets John Lennon.” It’s frustrating that the results don't match the aims; here, she’s made a mostly fine, overly polished adult contemporary record that feels oddly generic, especially coming from her.
the writer likes the closing track though
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
I just listened to it as well and, well, I liked the closing track too.
― Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
Didn't mean that to sound like a diss. The record sounds fine but hardly extraordinary. The closing track was the first (and last, I guess) time I stopped paying attention to whatever else I was doing long enough to just listen to it.
― Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
OK, this I'd actually read:
http://www.avclub.com/article/chrissie-hynde-writing-tell-all-book-her-own-216080
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
Dr. Rumak • 20 hours ago
How do we trust that anything in this book is real, since she's already admitted to being a Pretender?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
She's lived a heck of a life.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
She made these remarks. I'm not surprised.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 August 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
I suppose that I feel charitable and defensive enough of Chrissie as a person to get on board with these remarks (cited in the linked article):
"People criticising Chrissie Hynde for her comments are overlooking that she is a victim and this is self blame. I feel v sorry for her tbh", tweeted Stephanie.While the Guardian's Hadley Freeman echoed her thoughts: "Many people seem furious with Chrissie Hynde, and I get why, but I feel pity for her. Imagine blaming y/self for sthg so awful for so long."
While the Guardian's Hadley Freeman echoed her thoughts: "Many people seem furious with Chrissie Hynde, and I get why, but I feel pity for her. Imagine blaming y/self for sthg so awful for so long."
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Sunday, 30 August 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
yeah i saw people calling her some pretty nasty things today and it's like hmmmm is that really the right response here.
no idea what alfred's remark is supposed to mean.
― some dude, Monday, 31 August 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link
i.e. I'm not surprised that Hynde, who despite her punk roots draws from a traditional well of rock and roll discourse about men and women, would make those remarks.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 August 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I think she's coming from a very different place than most contemporary music criticism when it comes to gender discourse
http://www.pretenders.org/adviceto.gif
― niels, Monday, 31 August 2015 09:01 (eight years ago) link
#10 OTM
― nashwan, Monday, 31 August 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
New album "Alone" coming out that is produced by Dan Auerbach of Black Keys in Nashville. Duane Eddy is on one song and some Nashville studio guys are on others, per the press release.
They're gonna tour as the opening act for a Stevie Nicks US arena tour
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 September 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
would love to hear Stevie + Chrissie sing "Back on the Chain Gang" or "Hymn to Her."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
That would be nice. November 4th gig in your part of the country.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
Been digging into their first four albums (prompted by Alfred tweeting about the debut) and man there is a real steep drop with "Get Close". Understandable given the shifting line-ups and changing times, but man Hynde was really not served well by the late 80s frills of fretless bass, shitty synth pads, etc. Big singles and maybe Chill Factor aside it's a bummer to listen to.
Also just generally struck by how much her phrasing reminds me of Dylan. Those first three albums are an incredible run.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
Wikipedia, perhaps appropriately, lists it as both "New Wave" and "soft rock."
I'm not at all baffled by someone not liking it, and I can certainly imagine it shedding some fans of the first three albums at the time, but a few duds aside ("How Much Did You Get For Your Soul" being the yuckiest), I still love it. "My Baby," "Don't Get Me Wrong" and "Hymn To Her" are all great, shimmery pop.
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
The big singles are wonderful though - Hymn To Her, Don't Get Me Wrong and My Baby are great boomer pop xpost
― Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
Her singing and breath control in "Chill Factor" kills me.
I'm usually a defender of expensive '80s albus, but Shakey OTM about the vacuousenss of Get Close.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
The first four Pretenders albums are a lot like the proper Clash album discography (minus Give 'Em Enough Rope, which for some reason I never owned until I was older) in that they were so formative for me, and I've lived with them for so long now, that I'm pretty much blind to their flaws.
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
(don't trust my opinions on 'em, in other words)
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link
I just don't think those touches play to her strengths, and they don't reveal anything or challenge her in interesting ways they just feel like half-assed window-dressing. Was kinda surprised to read Alomar was involved tbh, I can't identify his contributions.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
you know what I really love on re-listening to these is "Pack it Up"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link
also can anyone explain why they did a song called "Louie Louie" that is not THE "Louie Louie"? idgi
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
Don't sleep on packed!. It's got some of her loveliest material ("When Will I See You," "Never Do That," "Let's Make a Pact").
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
I posted this in the other thread.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link
"Thumbelina", off Learning To Crawl, sets a bar for female-led Americana that I wish was reached for more.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 February 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
Hidden gem on Get Close: "Tradition of Love"
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 25 February 2017 07:04 (seven years ago) link
I still can't stand her biggest revenue stream.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:13 (six years ago) link
Chrissie's performance half-saves this song for me. Imagine it in the hands of Celine Dion or some other nuance-adverse bleater and you might see what I mean.
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:26 (six years ago) link
if there were any justice in this fallen world, "show me" would have earned her a billion dollars
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
the s/t debut is one of the best rock records ever. pretenders II is good. they are CLASSICp much everything after the deaths of JHS & PF = DUD
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
Bar maybe a half dozen or so songs, maybe. Though Hynde remains classic, which kind of keeps the goodwill flowing. Last couple of albums did not even feature Chambers, so wonder why her sole solo album was the only one designated as such.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
agreed that Hynde is eternally classic
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
I'll go as far as the third album and quite enjoy the occasional single after that.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
sometime in the last decade she chose a friend's band to open for part of a tour. he told me that when they went in for their first meeting, she said "yeah I had this huge pile of CDs to look through, and you guys were the UGLIEST motherfuckers out of all the bands. I figured that you were in it for the music and not the chicks, so I wanted to check you out."
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
hahaha
― hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
that rules lol
has she written a memoir?
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
yes, and i read it
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link