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my friend's response was "we're lucky if we can hit a 1/2 inch... 1/4 is usually what's specified. "

so, steve jobs

I, rrational (mh), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

does anyone know anything about this? iPad apps S/D - might as well get this started

markers, Sunday, 7 April 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Anybody use CrossOver to run MS Office programs? I don't want to have to buy Windows & use Parallels or Boot Camp just to use Excel and Word.

Je55e, Monday, 8 April 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

Why not just get the Mac versions? Or use NeoOffice/OpenOffice?

Nhex, Monday, 8 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

I bought Mac versions but I hated them. I want to stick with Office b/c I'm taking a certification class.

Je55e, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

i used to use crossover office -- it was kind of impressive but it was never going to be as good as running it in a VM.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

What were the drawbacks?

I should probably just buy a license for Windows and run Parallels or some other VM (not Bootcamp b/c I will happily suffer the performance hit if I don't have to re-boot to switch OS).

Je55e, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

aren't the Mac versions pretty close to the og?

the late great, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

well it was a while ago but i remember it being a little clunky to install, and not surviving an os upgrade (and so i never ran it again). i dont remember a lot of details but the general impression i got was "this is kind of neat"
nowadays i actually run crossover office from the company's linux server over X, which is also clunky, but i never have to worry about maintaining it, etc...
if the newer versions of office still run on xp, i'd recommend installing and running on that (license might be cheaper too)
re: mac versions of office -- they've been typically pretty bad but maybe the newer ones are better?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Office for Mac isn't terrible, but its differences from Windows version slow me way down, and I don't use it Office on my laptop enough to get super comfortable with it.

Je55e, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

Word for Mac is the single most infuriating bit of software I've ever used. I could list a hundred reasons why it sucks.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

is there a way to use a mac as a home server to several different monitors/keyboards/mice in different rooms, like just using them as terminals to the single mac?

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, Mac OS X has built-in Screen Sharing / VNC, you should be able to use a generic VNC client I think?

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

wait, i'm assuming that those other setups have computers

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I was hoping to do it without other computers

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

you can probably have multiple input devices connected via bluetooth but range would be an issue

i'm not aware of a wireless ware to connect monitors

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

feel like if u were willing to run wire u could pull something off with oldschool kvm switches

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be willing to use wire if that were needed

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

airplay mirroring? youd need apple tvs for each monitor. nb i dont know that apple tvs would mirror desktops. or if they even work that way

max, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

my friend tried wireless screen sharing, the resolution was really bad

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if I could do this with iphones or ipads as the clients, hooked up to monitors & keyboards (& mice?), logged onto an os x box

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

could use something like this https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/screens-vnc-control-your-computer/id400012962?mt=8

if its wireless ya i think youll get a lot of lag and shitty resolution. idk what wired screen sharing is like

max, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

my friend (actually my roommate) does wired screen sharing over a router now through ethernet cables... i think he 'likes' it but i think there are some problems, for example when he uses his macbook on his imac screen, it mirrors at exactly the res of his macbook, so there's space on the imac screen that's not used? something like that

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

i think there's still a slight lag

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't TeamViewer let you do that sort of connection

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah my brother runs a vnc through his ipad to a mini, but he doesn't use an external monitor so the lag / resolution are no prob. I want to run to bigass monitors so that may be a problem...but I could run wire so I dunno...

prob just easier to buy a few minis but it seems like overkill just to run dropbox + text editing / latex + browsers, like I don't need to do anything computationally hard on each of the would-be terminals

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

i use built in wireless VNC from my air to my mini a lot and it basically sucks, i wouldnt want to use it as a regular setup

max, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

yeah - i think there may also be technical limitations to how far you can push dvi/hdmi signals before you need a repeatero r something. like 25 feet? idk

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Euler, check out this one if you're looking at iPhone/iPad options:
http://avatron.com/apps/air-display

Slight lag, but it basically lets you use an iPad as an additional monitor.

I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

dropbox + text editing / latex + browsers

I have no idea if there are any iPad apps that support latex formatting but really, this is what I use an iPad on its own for, often

I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that would work, but I'd like to have a monitor bigger than an iPad also. guess I could try seeing if it can handle that.

I also want to log in different simultaneous users on the server to run different clients in different rooms with their own i/o...not sure if air-display can handle that

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

The other option, especially if you don't care about running OS X apps per se, would be to run a X11 client or iSSH on an iPad and a X server on one computer.

There are probably some thin client options out there that support X11 as well

I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol raspberry pi

I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

i'm getting the feeling it would be cheaper or more efficient to try to snag some cheap thin clients for VNC rather than running a remote reverse KVM setup

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

Kind of what I was getting at, there -- you could run X11 apps off a mac server, have a bunch of raspberry pi computers running X locally for display. Much snappier than VNC since it's basically made for remote drawing of apps.

I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

are there cheap thin clients for vnc that can run multiple simultaneous sessions of os x?

Euler, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.writelatex.com/

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I've been using it in a collaborative project & it's good!

Euler, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

Euler if you can explain what your functional use-case is rather than just the solution you think you need we might be able to recommend something viable.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

snap?

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

I don't understand the question

Euler, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

I guess maybe this: I want to be able to have multiple terminals at home running OS X but I don't want to have to buy more than monitors and keyboards and mice for them. I want one machine doing the serving. I aldo want it to serve media but that part is easy.

Euler, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

do you want different people to be able to log in at the same time, and to see different things on their screen?

caek, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

new panic app http://www.macstories.net/reviews/panic-status-board-review/

markers, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Euler, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

can anybody help out:

today my macbook's wifi started getting wonky. specifically, after about half an hour of not being used, it starts having trouble accessing pages - requests time out all the time. when requests do go through, it's fast though. turning airport on and off doesnt do anything. i trashed the pref files in library/preferences/systemconfig but that didnt work. the only fix is to restart the computer, but the issue comes back if i leave the macbook idle. any ideas??

乒乓, Saturday, 20 April 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

i solved it i think it was ap roblem with the router

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

I have had that issue, sometimes it's a shitty Dns server setting. Reboot router, add google dns.

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Sunday, 21 April 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/23/4258272/apple

markers, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

"Our teams are hard at work on some amazing new hardware, software that should be okay by version 3, and terrible flaky unusable services that we can't wait to introduce in the fall and into 2014. We remain very confident in our product plan."

we're up all night to eat biscuits (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link


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