Magic: The Gathering C/D

It really feels like more of a sideboard card - typically those don't go very high. If you maindeck it I think it's just going to hit a lot of Burning-Trees. Plus most of the white decks I see play Geist or Reckoner so you got to play around that.

you cast it when their obzedat is active and yours isnt imo

i do agree that $.99 is pretty low for a card that A) costs 2 mana, B) is an instant, and C) hits so many tier 1 cards (that are otherwise hard to deal with)

it's a tool for control decks as its most obvious use - it deals with almost all of the nightmare threats - falk aristocrat, geist, obzedat, domri, assemble the legion, aurelia, etc etc. i think it might be maindeckable depending on what the top decks look like after this set is out

in any case, the preorder price should definitely be more than a dollar, even if it eventually settles there after a month of drafting

well I suppose DGM is pretty much guaranteed to have some really good multicolored cards. still my concern with it is how many things it actually hits - all those cards get played a lot obviously but how many decks have more than 4-6 multicolor cards maindeck? and of those that have a lot, can you get nerfed if they play a Burning-Tree Shaman so you can't hit the thing you want? (not that R/G has a lot of good multicolor stuff yet, but it's worth considering)

i don't think you want the card vs burning-tree decks after sideboarding anyway.

there are a lot of multicolored creatures seeing play and even if a deck only plays a handful they tend to be the strongest ones in the deck.

i'm not saying this card is going to be a format staple, but i see it as a dreadbore-type card, something that sees a bit of play as a removal option, and dreadbore was like $8 at release time and is still well over $1 now

If DGM brings more powerful multicolor staple cards I can see it being really good - you wouldn't want to put in a card if it only deals with their 3 Aristocrats for instance. Junk Rites plays both Loxodon Smiter and Ghost Dads, I can see it useful there. But there aren't many decks like that.

Advent of the Wurm's collector number is #51. Which means that if it's the first gold card alphabetically then we're only getting 10 cards of each color. Sounds about right

Wow, hadn't thought about that. Guess we're in for lots of gold. If they hadn't already blown the "all-gold set", this would have been a perfect time to use it.

still my concern with it is how many things it actually hits - all those cards get played a lot obviously but how many decks have more than 4-6 multicolor cards maindeck?

every tier one and two deck has at least one target for it and most have several even the burning-tree decks have consistently had domri somewhere in their 75 and blitz decks have ghor-clan rampager. i was actually wondering if it might be viable in blitz decks though as a way of dealing w/boros reckoner since they're probably the least immune and it also hits stuff like detention sphere and olivia and other problem cards for the deck

least should be most there

problem is it eats one of your emissaries which is the same result the more proactive answers to reckoner already have

i enjoy the demographic of this thread. i'm right there with y'all (87)

modern magic art is generally dreadful, i think, but i also agree that land art has become progressively more stunning. love the foglios tho

That must be the sweet spot for magic players, it was just starting up around the age where you guys might start nurturing a card collecting addiction. I'm super old so I was focused on buying baseball and Star Wars cards as a kid. Couldn't do much with those though. By the time mtg came around, I was graduating from high school and more interested in sex, drugs, and rock n roll.

Only now that I'm rapidly approaching middle age with a kid of my own am I able to return to my childhood love of games and trading cards.

also iunno... all things considered the new spoilers don't really look too broken? the instant wurm is sweet but probably on the same power level as resto anyways. i think it'll be a balanced set when all is said and done.

i like exava a lot. not sure where she's better than hellrider or falkenrath aristocrat yet but at least she'll be around longer in standard

i think they're saving some stuff

feeling a little underwhelmed by Exava, think I like the deathtouch dude more

Exava looks sweet. She is better than Hellrider on an empty board, and better than Falkenrath Aristocrat against decks with Tragic Slip, though probably worse than either overall. In her favor, first strike is very relevant right now, but being Legendary hurts. After rotation, I think she'll get played.

Lavinia just got spoiled too. Interesting ETB effect, wonder if she has combo potential?

Lavinia seems pretty nice, protection against red is interesting

apparently the flavor texts on the RTR and GTC guildgates have certain letters with slightly raised flavor text, and if you put them together and read them vertically they read "THE GUILDS OF RAVNICA" in RTR and "WILL DESTROY EACH OTHER" in GTC. sounds like a crackpot theory but if you have any guildgates by you check it out, this is actually for real

the dragons maze ones have raised letters too but we haven't seen all 10 yet

can't wait to scoop to t5 lavinia dozens of times in standard over the next year and a half...

just when you resolved to commit yourself to mono red

ehh i don't think she's better vs mono-red than just aggro in general. can always add a land or 2 and break out the thundermaw hellkites again. also i can see people using her as a falter on a stick in UW geist aggro decks too

Trostani's Summoner
5GW
Creature - Elf Shaman
When Trostani's Summoner enters the battlefield, put a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance, a 3/3 green Centaur creature token, and a 4/4 green Rhino creature token with trample onto the battlefield.
1/1

uncommon. this seems pretty fun

BRING BACK REVELLARK!!

we already have restoration angel and unburial rites, don't be greedy

I like that card

also that cycle of 2/4 commons that marshall previewed in the limited article is going to do a ton of work towards slowing the format down, i think. not only do they block most of the aggro cards in both RTR and GTC, they also make you want to play multiple ETB-tapped lands in your decks, since getting the trigger on any of them is pretty huge. red one is probably the worst, black probably the best.

not to mention that 2-color decks basically won't be viable unless you want your deck to be real diluted

well yeah but the worry was that the format would still be tempo-ey due to all the gatecrash aggro cards and detain/unleash, this cycle is the type of thing i want to see if it's gonna be more ponderous like it should be (tempo-ey 3-color just means lots of unfun manascrew deaths and such)

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/inoog6pejv_EN.jpg

rad art, crap card

yeah her old card was a lot more interesting for constructed. this one's still a fine board control card in limited and maybe very specific block or standard matchups but it's not too exciting

also flavor-wise i'm not sure why a human with a crippled leg is a 4/4 vigilance

I'm thinking Boros/Azorious can be real nasty if it gets the right cards (Gore-House and Lyev Skynight, for example) - it would be slower then GTC Boros but it would have flyers. I guess we'll see if DGM has any more 3-power 2CC dudes.

ooh, I like Varolz

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this is v strong

yeah that card is nuts

not only does it kill everything without hexproof, and that includes annoying stuff like thragtusk or undying creatures not coming back, you can also probably 2-for-1 with it a fair amount of the time if you have a creature on board to block the 0/1

takes away Boros Reckoner's damage redirect too

yeah that falls under annoying creatures for sure

the 1B dark confidant riff is pretty good too, should see play in aggressive black decks. other stuff from last night not as exciting though i do like the 7/5 mana flare and the 6/4 hand destroyer.

Yeah Turn/Burn is gonna be a format staple. Very versatile card, and I'm very glad it exists as an answer to Thrag and Reckoner and cards like that.

Not sure how to evaluate Blood Scrivener at all! Seems very powerful (I think multiples even stack!) but are there any aggro decks that routinely have zero cards in hand? It's so easy to get caught with extra lands or removal spells.

Also I'm wondering whether Blood Scrivener and Rot Farm Skeleton are references to the original Rav mechanics. Maybe there will be cycle of them.

the insanity demon thing is definitely an intentional hellbent enabler so there's 2 already

I'm not sure who exactly would want the Scrivener - seems risky and you're just asking to get blown away by Supreme Verdict. Still it's awesome how with everything DGM has to do anyway that they're even referencing the old Rav mechanics.

The Zur-Thaa Ancient seems pretty crazy. Like when you think "7/5 mana flare" you assume it's costed at seven. Five mana is pretty nuts for that. Obzedat's return feels like it'll usher in a whole new era of stupid Omniscience decks.

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this might be pretty good in a funky 4/5c deck

yeah i'm always a fan of uncommon build-around-me enchantments for draft

i drafted a crackling perimeter deck last night but it was terrible. going to try again in full block draft at some point probably

it might be marginally better if someone can realistically expect 5 gates and a v. controlly deck

Varolz is going to be pretty excellent with Death's Shadow/Phyrexian Dreadnought. C'mon someone's got to build this deck