Television

i have a few good 00s shows by them, seems like it all depends on whether verlaine is interested in being there, which is probably only half of the time.

had an ad on our craigslist for guitar lessons

u should hit him up

i follow him on facebook, he's always asking for students, even via skype, i think.

Which show Steve? QEH or ULU? Cos I saw them at ULU in maybe 04 and they killed. Finished with an incredible Psychotic Reaction.

The really weird one was the first gig in London after the reformation, at the Forum in 94 (or 93. I don't recall). Maybe 200 people there. Upstairs closed, downstairs almost completely empty. Verlaine asked for some blue light, and then the whole show was played under two blue spots and nothing else. I recall an amazing Little Johnny Jewel though.

It was the Shepherds Bush Empire, April 2001. Seems like I just caught a bad night - wish I'd been at the Forum show you describe, though.

saw them at the tortoise-curated all tomorrow's parties, and at their later ULU show. they were great both times - but the tension between verlaine and lloyd onstage was palpable, particularly at the ATP show, like almost uncomfortably so. the ATP gig started out very well-attended but the crowd soon started to thin out - think television are just a bit too 'sophisticated guitar solos' for the indie kid purists of days. they were much sloppier at the ULU show, but seemed to be enjoying themselves a bit more, and the one new song they played (something like 'sahara'???) was excellent. a year or so later verlaine and rip played a beautiful duo show at the 100 Club on Tottenham Court Road, and i'm not sure that TV has been back since.

new song you mention is probably this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYrTcCBM6hw
verlaine's been playing it with and without television since like 1997.

btw looks like you can still grab this --
http://www.earcandyarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/resized/71.jpg
http://www.earcandyarchive.com/?p=24
It was 7 years ago that I first heard Tom Verlaine say:
“This here’s a newie….goes like this”

And finally a new Television album is nearing completion,
albeit without Richard Lloyd, who left to persue The
Radiant Monkey and his own musical vision. So its sheer
conjecture as to which of these new TV songs will have made
it into the studio along with replacement, Jimmy Rip.

Here, then, is a compilation of live performances of those
new songs as performed in recent years. May this serve as
a fitting farewell to Mr Lloyd’s involvement with the group
and an appreciation of his contribution to the evolving of
these new songs.

These are audience recordings so sonic quality is not ideal.
However,the passion is all there in the zeros & the ones…

01 I Could Sleep All Day (Washington DC 2003-03-24)
02 Rise & Fall (London 2005-06-21)
03 Frustration (Sao Paolo 2005-10-25)
04 Flower Spasm (London 2005-06-21)
05 Balloon (Washington DC 2003-03-24)
06 Persia (London 2004-06-23)
07 The Sea ((Hamburg 2004-06-18)

bonus tracks:
08 Swells Pt 1 / Stars / Swells Pt 2 (Sao Paolo 2005-10-25)
09 Stax (Hamburg 2004-06-18)
10 Stockhausen Pysche Jam (London 2004-06-23)
11 Bowie medley (London 2002-06-18
12 Love Theme From Piranha (London 2002-06-18)
13 “Hits On TV” (London 2002-06-19)

Jeff Tweedy's wife Sue reportedly gave him lessons with Lloyd for his birthday once.

Can I tell my fave Television story again? Yeah? OK, cool. The last time I saw them, in 1998 or something, they were at the start of "Marquee Moon" when Lloyd broke a string. So as the band played the song, as a trio, he very calmly, and very slowly, moved aside and patiently changed the string. Very. Patiently. Took his sweet time. In fact, didn't strap the guitar back on until the last few seconds of the song. It was hilarious.

they're doing marquee moon in its entirety in australia this fall
http://www.atpfestival.com/newsview/1304162359.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8Iqv6LkVc&feature=player_embedded
weird! last weekend television played "i'm gonna find you" an unreleased tune from 1974. have they been listening to the old bootlegs?

Well you know there's this blog they may have stumbled upon

haha, that would be terrifying.

I'm thinking people need to talk about Adventure more often!

let's talk about it!
Television played this one last week, which they never did back in the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw

i really like that song. the clientele do a groovy version but it doesn't appear to be on youtube.

Crazy, I've just seen these posts and I'm actually listening to 'The Fire' right now on my copy of Adventure! Great song, and absolutely wonderful guitar work as always. I can see why Adventure tends to get overlooked... it followed up a stone-cold classic in Marquee Moon, and its material is a touch more relaxed, maybe... but the more I listen to it, the more it gets its claws in me. There really isn't a song on Adventure I dislike, for what it's worth!

I recall Adventure getting a two star review in UNCUT for the reissue, alone with MM's five stars. Seemed really OTT rather than standing on its own merits (which it has). It's not MM but it's not a two star album either (IMO).

Also surprised that, at that time (00s anyway), it seemed Adventure was getting quite a lot of credit on its own whilst keeping things realistic, rather than people dismissing it offhand just because it wasn't MM (and it isn't, but anyway..)

Yeah, that's more than a bit OTT, IMO... I definitely don't think Adventure is a two star record!

finally watched the 1974 tape from ork's loft. verlaine is so animated, jumping around & smiling, kinda reminiscent of thurston moore circa 1983 & in fact the blurry untuned guitar sound resembled sonic youth to a startling degree. huh. too bad hell's mike didn't work but still a revelation.

I think my issue with Adventure is how it kinda fizzles out with the last track.

Now, it has the title track to 'end' it, which isn't exactly 'great' but it does what was needed.

C'mon! It has "Foxhole", "Careful" and "Aint that nothing". And "Glory", and and and....

Terry Ork's loft rehearsal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcGEcB5M4es

"Persia" is my new jam

yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes.

I think my issue with Adventure is how it kinda fizzles out with the last track.

Get outta here, the solo is among the best guitar playing I've ever in my life

Ever heard that is. LOL. And believe me I've tried to play it.

I hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.

xxp: i've always wished for a side-long version of The Dream's Dream

"yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes."

Ysi?

hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.

I'm a stan for the '92 album.

Side 2 of Adventure is where I'm at.

that ork loft youtube is one of my most watched/listened to things of the past month, i think i saw it on tyler's blog

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f7baf4507ec5c13242a6354ed6219307/tumblr_moc9es222E1qzy30io1_500.png

also i did look for that 20 minute version of "persia" and .... I must have imagined it? Maybe it just felt like 20 minutes.

Ha, those Whisky photos are great. Peter Gabriel looks like he's 12.

http://soundcloud.com/nyctaper/wilco-marquee-moon-television
pretty much note perfect -- if anyone can out-verlaine verlaine, it's nels cline.

Tweedy is no Television-guitar slouch himself!

hello richard, this is adam. i read that you gave jeff tweedy a guitar lesson and was wondering about some of the things you talked about, seeing as how i love both his and your playing. hopefully you can shed some light on this. i plan on checking out some of the lessons on your site and appreciate them very much!

thanks, adam

Hello Adam,
Thank you for writing, and for your interest in Jeff Tweedy and myself. Unfortunately, private lessons are just that -- private. For that reason, I cannot answer your questions with respect to what might have taken place between us, but we are and have been friends for a rather longtime -- Wilco opened a number of shows for Matthew Sweet many years ago when I was on tour with Matthew. We all became warm friends then and remain so, even though Jeff lives in Chicago and I live in New York. His wife called me a couple of years ago because she wanted to get him a guitar lesson from me for his birthday. So I flew to Chicago and we spend the day together. And I just saw him a month or so ago in Brazil when we both played at the Tim Festival in Rio de Janeiro.

Best regards,
Richard Lloyd

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996165_10151512923682690_646880720_n.jpg

tyler where was this?!

you should post that stuff to tumblr or facebook so it's easier for me to repost it and get all kinds of cool points.

haha, it's on richard's facebook page - he says "This has been one of the posters I have used in the past. Still valid, I teach Guitar and Music theory without recourse to music notation clefs or any reading, which does not suit Guitarists. My student learn to view the Guitar from a new perspective that can completely change the way you look at music itself. PM if interested, --Richard Lloyd."
https://www.facebook.com/richard.lloyd1

tbh i'm sort of interested! i wonder what his rates are.

the text reminds me of those Dr. Bronner's soap labels.

yeah! i was thinking it seemed kinda turn of the 20th century. i am fascinated by this sort of thing -- i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

I thought about that once years ago. It was intimidating though. I actually asked Bob Bannister if he'd be interesting in giving lessons but he passed.

i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

His name's not Robbie Basho is it?

ha, i actually asked him about basho and he said "who?"