Television

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8Iqv6LkVc&feature=player_embedded
weird! last weekend television played "i'm gonna find you" an unreleased tune from 1974. have they been listening to the old bootlegs?

Well you know there's this blog they may have stumbled upon

haha, that would be terrifying.

I'm thinking people need to talk about Adventure more often!

let's talk about it!
Television played this one last week, which they never did back in the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSsXABdBNw

i really like that song. the clientele do a groovy version but it doesn't appear to be on youtube.

Crazy, I've just seen these posts and I'm actually listening to 'The Fire' right now on my copy of Adventure! Great song, and absolutely wonderful guitar work as always. I can see why Adventure tends to get overlooked... it followed up a stone-cold classic in Marquee Moon, and its material is a touch more relaxed, maybe... but the more I listen to it, the more it gets its claws in me. There really isn't a song on Adventure I dislike, for what it's worth!

I recall Adventure getting a two star review in UNCUT for the reissue, alone with MM's five stars. Seemed really OTT rather than standing on its own merits (which it has). It's not MM but it's not a two star album either (IMO).

Also surprised that, at that time (00s anyway), it seemed Adventure was getting quite a lot of credit on its own whilst keeping things realistic, rather than people dismissing it offhand just because it wasn't MM (and it isn't, but anyway..)

Yeah, that's more than a bit OTT, IMO... I definitely don't think Adventure is a two star record!

finally watched the 1974 tape from ork's loft. verlaine is so animated, jumping around & smiling, kinda reminiscent of thurston moore circa 1983 & in fact the blurry untuned guitar sound resembled sonic youth to a startling degree. huh. too bad hell's mike didn't work but still a revelation.

I think my issue with Adventure is how it kinda fizzles out with the last track.

Now, it has the title track to 'end' it, which isn't exactly 'great' but it does what was needed.

C'mon! It has "Foxhole", "Careful" and "Aint that nothing". And "Glory", and and and....

Terry Ork's loft rehearsal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcGEcB5M4es

"Persia" is my new jam

yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes.

I think my issue with Adventure is how it kinda fizzles out with the last track.

Get outta here, the solo is among the best guitar playing I've ever in my life

Ever heard that is. LOL. And believe me I've tried to play it.

I hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.

xxp: i've always wished for a side-long version of The Dream's Dream

"yeah it's great, total trance music. i have one version that's close to 20 minutes."

Ysi?

hate to say this, but Television could be the most underachieving band in the history of rock and roll. All that talent, the immortal debut, and that's pretty much it.

I'm a stan for the '92 album.

Side 2 of Adventure is where I'm at.

that ork loft youtube is one of my most watched/listened to things of the past month, i think i saw it on tyler's blog

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f7baf4507ec5c13242a6354ed6219307/tumblr_moc9es222E1qzy30io1_500.png

also i did look for that 20 minute version of "persia" and .... I must have imagined it? Maybe it just felt like 20 minutes.

Ha, those Whisky photos are great. Peter Gabriel looks like he's 12.

http://soundcloud.com/nyctaper/wilco-marquee-moon-television
pretty much note perfect -- if anyone can out-verlaine verlaine, it's nels cline.

Tweedy is no Television-guitar slouch himself!

hello richard, this is adam. i read that you gave jeff tweedy a guitar lesson and was wondering about some of the things you talked about, seeing as how i love both his and your playing. hopefully you can shed some light on this. i plan on checking out some of the lessons on your site and appreciate them very much!

thanks, adam

Hello Adam,
Thank you for writing, and for your interest in Jeff Tweedy and myself. Unfortunately, private lessons are just that -- private. For that reason, I cannot answer your questions with respect to what might have taken place between us, but we are and have been friends for a rather longtime -- Wilco opened a number of shows for Matthew Sweet many years ago when I was on tour with Matthew. We all became warm friends then and remain so, even though Jeff lives in Chicago and I live in New York. His wife called me a couple of years ago because she wanted to get him a guitar lesson from me for his birthday. So I flew to Chicago and we spend the day together. And I just saw him a month or so ago in Brazil when we both played at the Tim Festival in Rio de Janeiro.

Best regards,
Richard Lloyd

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tyler where was this?!

you should post that stuff to tumblr or facebook so it's easier for me to repost it and get all kinds of cool points.

haha, it's on richard's facebook page - he says "This has been one of the posters I have used in the past. Still valid, I teach Guitar and Music theory without recourse to music notation clefs or any reading, which does not suit Guitarists. My student learn to view the Guitar from a new perspective that can completely change the way you look at music itself. PM if interested, --Richard Lloyd."
https://www.facebook.com/richard.lloyd1

tbh i'm sort of interested! i wonder what his rates are.

the text reminds me of those Dr. Bronner's soap labels.

yeah! i was thinking it seemed kinda turn of the 20th century. i am fascinated by this sort of thing -- i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

I thought about that once years ago. It was intimidating though. I actually asked Bob Bannister if he'd be interesting in giving lessons but he passed.

i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.

His name's not Robbie Basho is it?

ha, i actually asked him about basho and he said "who?"

Man, would actually be interested in hearing Richard lay this all out. Where does he teach?

he's in nyc afaik, i think he's said he does skype lessons though.

Think skype lesson would be a little too crazy for me, but will keep that NYC thought in mind when I get up there. I just bet that it is pretty fun and wild hearing him talk about what he does and getting to ask him questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmEq-cP9Oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSifKZ80H4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWFqz1Sjps

Hah, thanks man. A window into the experience.

My buddy Alex took lessons with him for a couple of years here (NYC). I think he was p affordable.

He was living in mpls-stpl last I heard though?

I think I watched those videos before but all I remember from them is Richard playing while being like "1 2 5 6 4 1 5 3 5 2 1 4 4 4 5 6 3 5 2 1 6" for about ten minutes.

That's about what I remember