even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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"subsidized" is the wrong word, but there actually is a legit "lucky ducky" phenomenon in NYC wrt rent-control/rent-stabilization, because it's not based on income at all, so there really are a lot of mid or high income people who have lucked into rent-controlled or rent-stabilized housing.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

but if that guy means section 8 or public housing projects, then yeah he's a fucking moron, but that's apparent anyway

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

anyway it seems like the biggest problem with this reasoning is that the price of dalfour fruit spread or whatever bullshit (does anyone actually really buy that?) is not really a major factor in your cost of living, whereas your housing is. So even if you can get a handful of luxury goods cheaper in NYC (which I don't even really believe since there are so many other factors driving UP prices of goods here), your major costs would be much higher, and the difference between housing in NYC and, idk Little Rock, is going to overwhelm any savings on organic chicken.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 25 April 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

And you couldn't think the NYT could somehow top itself when it comes to Brooklyn and Williamsburg.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/fashion/williamsburg.html

Do note the headline.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

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-- burt_stanton, Sunday, March 16, 2008

buzza, Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

RIP Sparks

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

I sort of wish Joan Didion, but like young Joan Didion, had just come in and written the definitive essay about Williamsburg several years ago. There's probably a good essay to be written about it, or was, but no one seems to be able to avoid being captain obvious about it

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

like, somebody say something interesting about brooklyn by now, please, somebody make an observation that goes beyond facial hair, or that connects the trends to something other than buzzwords of the moment. It's like it's 1974 and the Times is still going "I observed that they seem to have long hair and wear peace signs and protest things"

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's too late for a thing like that to be written. nobody is unfamiliar with hipsters now. they're just people. i'm not sure there are observations to be made about "hipsters" per se.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

individual strains within "hipster" culture -- like the local food movement, like the boom in artisanal products, like the (sort of) mainstreaming 19th century kitsch -- could be subjects for discussion. "hipster" as a category is too broad. it refers to everyone by now i think.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

also williamsburg is a more diverse neighborhood than articles like that allow. lots of stuff goin' on there, lots of different kinds of people. it doesn't seem interesting to me that many of them dress similarly.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

Once you read the author's Twitter feed it all makes sense. Too much sense.

https://twitter.com/henryalford

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

individual strains within "hipster" culture -- like the local food movement, like the boom in artisanal products, like the (sort of) mainstreaming 19th century kitsch

not sure those are the best examples of different strains - with some variance in the locavore thing, those are all pretty tied in together

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 May 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

hm, well i guess there are aesthetic and political components of the same basic sort of back to basics ethos.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

which is itself pretty different than the ironic appropriation movement or w/e that characterized hipsterism earlier in the decade. maybe those were sloppy examples i listed above, but i still think that a broad swatch of contradictory things fall under the banner of "hipsterdom" so it's not really a useful concept.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Thursday, 2 May 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

An article is roundly mocked and trashed. Solution -- retitle it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/fashion/williamsburg.html?src=me&ref=general

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 May 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

That's not much of an improvement.

carl agatha, Friday, 3 May 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

What was the previous title?

Je55e, Saturday, 4 May 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Will.i.amsburg

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 May 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my God, that dude's twitter feed is the worst/honestly no worse than most me-me-me-look-at-me twitter feeds.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 May 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

i'm going to a party in williamsburg today. i plan to make a big fucking deal out of the people there i consider "hipsters," act like some sort of bemused ethnographer, alienate everyone, and write a piece about my experience for the new york times. wish me luck.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Saturday, 4 May 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

a shiny sacagawea dollar says that you'll encounter nothing more than sighs and "this again?" from the mustachio'd hordes

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 May 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

alford did a good job of looking like a narc in that photo

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Saturday, 4 May 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Bedfoprd Avenue, as stated in an earlier correction

j., Saturday, 4 May 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

individual strains within "hipster" culture -- like the local food movement, like the boom in artisanal products, like the (sort of) mainstreaming 19th century kitsch -- could be subjects for discussion. "hipster" as a category is too broad. it refers to everyone by now i think.

― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Preliminary, not-yet-satisfying steps in this subcategorization: http://www.refinery29.com/hipster-handbook

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2013/05/01/flower-thief-returns-to-foil-the-new-york-times/

The New York Times writer has been working on this story idea since June 2012. She's tenacious

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

“It was too far outside my comfort zone,” said one friend, an accomplished cook who has stuffed many a zucchini.

Fried chicken on a biscuit with hot sauce and honey butter — as served at Pies N Thighs in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, is the perfect meal, especially for someone embarking on a juice cleanse the next day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/dining/making-fried-chicken-with-confidence.html

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

"It was compiled by that dude in the Black Flag T-shirt under an untucked, unsnapped cowboy shirt."

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/misc/pixel.gif

scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

shit sorry forgot they don't let you steal slide show pics from nyt. anyway, picture of a guy wearing a joy division t-shirt. i thought it was funny anyway.

scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tbQwd4o.png

乒乓, Friday, 17 May 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

billionaire.com is so exclusive it won't even load right on my computer

j., Friday, 17 May 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

i know people who were at that
oh me so quiddy

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link

you so forky

how's life, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

is that a quid ag? lol at the hat tho.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

was gonna say that the people i know who went to that wouldn't be wearing fedoras and then i remembered they very well might

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

trilbys and homburgs of the leisure class

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

in another article I was SHOCKED to read Amanda Palmer played there

Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

i um.. i might have helped get amanda palmer get booked to headline the coney island mermaid parade benefit

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

x-post to water tower

At one table, a first date was in progress. Chelsea Cammarota, 35, explained that she and her date did not know each other well. “He sent me a photo of a clock,” she recounted. “I said, ‘I’ve seen a lot of Law and Order.'” Nevertheless, her date, Steve Showalter, told her, “We’re going to do something fun.” But he was clueless, too, running on blind faith in the friend who had given him the watch.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

lol oops, really misread "clock" and was all "she cannot be serious- oh"

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

that would have been "I’ve seen a lot of Law and Order SVU"

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i also thought of this thread immediately

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 May 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

I like the phrase "boozy invaders" -- I think I would choose it as a name for a kickball team or something

THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Saturday, 25 May 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

(Not the NY Times) You Need Equity To Live In Silicon Valley (attn: tech guy, a high salary isn't enough to live there).

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link

(Unfortunately, families that currently earn $250,000 per year do not qualify for financial aid at most universities.)

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link


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