common: "i like to have sex with white chicks, i just dont like to date them"

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it seems like he's thought this through and has reasons for having this stance other than "i hate white people". you may disagree with both stance and the reasons for it, but that's no reason to call him names.
i'm pretty sure malcolm x felt the same way (not to mention millions of others). do you think he's a narrow minded dimwit? (not rhetorical)

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Again, I can see why someone can have a compelling reason to date within their own race, but I can't see why someone would say with certainty they would NEVER date outside of it.

Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

so you can't see why malcolm x would've said with certainty he would never date outside his race?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

that's funny, i didn't see common use the word NEVER in big capitals back there.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't see the thread title in the interview, either

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"malcolm x would've said with certainty he would never date outside his race"

I don't think post-pilgrimage Malcolm X would've endorsed that idea, actually.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i was wondering that, but who are we to say? point is at one time he most definitely thought that way, had very well-thought out reasons for it, and was not a narrow-minded dimwit.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

or was he?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Malcolm X himself would've admitted he was being a narrow-minded dimwit when he was younger, more stridently separatist days - and that goes for more than this particular example.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

wanting to date within his race does not seem like it in no way could fit in with his post-pilgrimage outlook. there needn't be any "white people are devils" thinking behind it.
anyway this is all besides the point, really.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

speaking as a not-white person, i can see common's pt 100%, as it applies to my own life. so does that make me a racist?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

no just un PC. you will not be invited to any parties thrown by urbane young white people. sorry.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I know what he's talking about but there's some of the best scratching I've heard in a long while on his single.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I *don't* know... that should say.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops, buy a ladder and get over it.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

do you disagree with what i've said? perhaps you could formulate at least a smidgen of an argument rather than slinging vague putdowns as per usual.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You have this hobby horse about being un-pc...it's kind of irrelevant. What does not being invited to "parties thrown by urbane young white people" have to do with the topic?

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe it's because everyone is so obsessed with being inoffensive and PC?
it was a joke. think you can, just for a moment, not be the most negative person on the planet?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, bring on another 10 million comments about what a renegade you are.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

the only one talking about me is you. can one not criticize something they feel is a misguided, far-reaching societal obsession without you thinking they're patting themselves on the back for being a rebel?
so...back to common...

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Forget renegade comments, am I the only one that thinks Common has really nice taste in various hats, i've seen him in more than one and thought "Damn, that's a nice hat!"

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

He does have nice hats, that is a good point.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.streethop.com/images.php?image=artists/common.jpg

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Better taste in hats: Common or Mos Def?

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/m/Mos_Def/sq-mos-hat-mtv.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They've kinda got whole different styles. Common leans towards the crazy hippy fuzzy hats, Mos is more of a cowboy hat/beret/hat-genre-ist.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Now you're onto something! Mos Def favours more wacky hats, whereas Common likes ones that actually would keep your head warm if the weather suddenly turned sour. I would like to see some more pictures of these two wearing hats, please.

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

It's sort of like Jamiroqaui vs. Indiana Jones.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Common's hats - wacky AND functional

Mos Def - style/class trumps hat functionality

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.7daynet.info/mos-def/mos-def-top-2.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.layouth.com/images/mosdef.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Is common one of those guys that wears winter hats in the summer? Hate that.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.phatmag.com/Mag%20Pages/Pictures/07_10_00/Common.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.hiphop-elements.com/img/5000/282.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.thehypemagazine.com/common%201.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Mos Def looks quite the man about town. Still liking Common more on the hat front though, although when it comes to lyrics, I tip my hat (to keep with the theme) in Mos' direction.

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

"From time to time, I'll suddenly find that my penis has encountered a melanin-deficient berth."

On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Although having seen that shower cap a few seconds ago, maybe i spoke too soon.

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Mos having a chuckle with COLDPLAY up there? Holy God.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hahaha, I can't believe you sold so many crap albums over time! But I get to be Ford Prefect, so screw you English motherfuckers."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"an icon, at one point in his life, would have agreed with Common on this question; therefore, the stance is great!"

I think anybody who says he (or she, for that matter) will fuck somebody of this or that race but not have a relationship with him/her is, social icon or no, a total pig. So, yes, oops: the sacred cow you raise was full of shit on this question. No: nothing wrong with having a preference; not saying that, before anybody gets they panties all knotted. Urges are urges! But "Not dated, no" (giggles)? Fuck that shit.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

bnotm

rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i never said I thought the stance was great, or that malcolm having a similar one gives it validity. i said i thought he had reasons behind it, and that calling him a narrow-minded dimwit is unfair.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

eh, I agree with BN too. Common's stance doesn't seem particularly well-reasoned to me. It seems convoluted and rather transparently designed to justify his own weird sexual hang-ups.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there any reason why sex must ONLY occur within the context of a relationship for it to be non-assholish on the man's part? OMG did I just write that?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

no, but having these "political" reasons for which ethnicities you will/will not have a relationship with, have sex with, etc. seems really fucking stupid and counterproductive to me.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

but common isn't you.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

oops also otm - "dimwit" unfair, "narrow-minded" quite accurate

I haven't given this serious thought, but on the face of it any political position that gives us a license to treat large segments of the population as objects AND TAKE PRIDE IN IT BECAUSE IT PROVES HOW DOWN AND CONSCIOUS AND SOULFUL WE ARE = dud

rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Having sex with someone you don't intend to have a relationship with is always treating that person like an object?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"but common isn't you."

and thank god for that. If I was I would have to kill myself to atone for the horrible "Compared to What" Coke commercial atrocity.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

res I know this'll blow your mind but most of the time the reason people are "fawning" is because the shit n. brings is right the fuck on. if you think you can actually find instances where he's dead wrong and people are all "fuckin' nabisco otm!" then go nuts but you and I both know you can't do that at all, all you got is useless hater juice.

J0hn D., Thursday, 13 November 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

nabisco is a decent person hes intelligent and he believes in things - he writes well and hes funny - but i have street smarts

put points on your face (ice cr?m), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

guys I temp banned res you can stop talking to the troll now

TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link

waht the fuck was up w/that music sraly

put points on your face (ice cr?m), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont care if you're black, white, green, purple...

homosexual II, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

classic revive

common: "i like to have sex with chickens, i just dont like to date them"

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

opn not all that common ime

Lamp, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link


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