"Schulze's music definitely sounds more composed and less free form jammed out than TD."
In hindsight that probably wasn't an accurate statement but I think part of it is that Klaus Schulze's music, especially early on is just him. TD has a different vibe in that there are 3 members so that there are other lines cutting in around the pulsating sequencer lines building up the sound. In the early drone music, I think Schulze's music is less busy and it probably comes down to the fact it's a solo performance with some overdubs, where the Tangerine Dream is a trio putting down the base tracks.
― earlnash, Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
Been listening to him quite a lot recently and... I still don't get it really. He's like Jefferson Airplane(!) in that regard, in that I keep listening to him/them in the hope that I'll be able to finally get what so many other people else seem to get, because it's exactly the sort of thing I usually like. Anyway, I keep picking up on the same faults, the pieces are too long - as I said upthread...
where TD have 18 minutes tracks, he has 28 minute tracks, for no apparent reason
... not just tracks, but sequences within tracks seem too long, not so long that they become perversely (or grimly) fascinating but so long (about one and half times too long) they become irritating, even when they start out good! Obv. his sense of musical time is out of kilter with mine. Also, no melodic sense, noodly soloing, RANDOM CHORD CHANGES, etc etc. "X" is pretty good though. Of course if Tangerine Dream had never existed I would probably appreciate him a lot more.
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link
I've hit an impasse as well with him too - as you mention Tangerine Dream just feels more interesting, with compositions that make more sense and sounds that feel a bit fresher. I too love most of X (especially "Ludwig von Bayern") but find even the "good" albums like Timewind a bit of a slog (and he's a prick for ending "Bayreuth Return" that way). Maybe someday.
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
i think maybe i need to give this stuff another try
wish i could find affordable reissue of cyborg ...
― the late great, Thursday, 23 January 2014 05:54 (ten years ago) link
i highly recommend "angst" if you're into jan hammer / tangerine dream early-80s synth soundtracks. it's tough.
fittingly angst is my new favorite
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link
http://newage-music.ru/uploads/posts/2013-04/1366487319_b001.jpg
― brimstead, Thursday, 12 November 2015 07:02 (eight years ago) link
got the cyborg reissue yesterday ... don't sleep!
― the late great, Thursday, 12 November 2015 07:21 (eight years ago) link
what is that picture from?
― gabba cadaver (NickB), Thursday, 12 November 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link
is there a sign on that dummy saying 'not to scale'?
what cyborg reissue? i bought one about 5 years ago and have noticed the prices have doubled in the meantime.
― koogs, Thursday, 12 November 2015 09:19 (eight years ago) link
Here I guess: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/where_will_frank_zappa_faust_and_other_progrockers_go_when_tokyo_wax_museum
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 November 2015 09:50 (eight years ago) link
cyborg cd reissue (i know, CDs lol)
http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-Klaus-Schulze/dp/B0142YXX94/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_1
― the late great, Thursday, 12 November 2015 09:57 (eight years ago) link
oh, that is new, as in tomorrow 8) - "Audio CD (November 13, 2015)"
'currently unavailable' on amazon.co.uk, but there were some for approaching £30 last time i looked (like the irrlicht is on amazon.com) so reissues are welcome
― koogs, Thursday, 12 November 2015 11:28 (eight years ago) link
all those 70s records are so freakin good
― marcos, Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
I interviewed Schulze (via email) for the new issue of The Wire and the response on the official KS website is maybe the greatest praise I've ever received as a writer.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DknJDOIU0AAQI2O.jpg
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
excellent!
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
Wow, really enjoying the 'Tonwelle' album he released as Richard Wahnfried in 1981. Very trance-y. Kind of like a more propulsive 'Dreamtime Return' with Manuel Gottsching noodling over the top (I like both those things). And it actually is Gottsching on the record too.
― cooldix, Monday, 18 May 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link
I was one of the unfortunate people who bought the not-actually-time-corrected "time corrected" 2xCD version so I've never actually heard this album the way it's intended to be heard
Wasn't there a rumor that Carlos Santana played on this? Likely started because of the involvement of Michael Shrieve, I assume
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 18 May 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
I've loved 'Time Actor' and 'Tonwelle' for so long, but never heard any Wahnfried albums from after that. Looking at discogs, I didn't even know there were so many others. Not completely enticed to try an album called "Drum 'n Balls" tbf
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 May 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
anyone picked up those "la vie electronique" sets? i am interested but dunno if they're worth bothering with.
― cut-off jeans, skinnydipping, and "getting weird" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:13 PM (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink
12 years late but volumes 3-6 are the ones I remember liking a lot at the time. I can't remember if 5 or 6 was my favorite, must revisit, but it was one of those. Bumping this because I found a reasonably priced copy of the vinyl reissue of Vol 1 and, eh, I'm just not as much into the early, pre-sequencer stuff, I guess. I don't especially enjoy the pre-Phaedra Tangerine Dream albums either, though, so I may not be the key demographic for zero gravity proto-dark ambient
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link